Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-27 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 21:36, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Hi, > > ... > > We were close to being global > > I don't really understand what you mean with "global". Can you please > explain > ? > Being a go-to solution for office productivity work. -- regards, Jaroslaw Staniek KDE: : A

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-26 Thread Alexander Neundorf
Hi, ... > We were close to being global I don't really understand what you mean with "global". Can you please explain ? Thanks Alex

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-26 Thread Volker Krause
On Friday, 24 August 2018 00:23:29 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Now that I'm coming out of jetlag, catching up on email and so happy > to see the direction this discussion is taking. > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 7:51 AM Jeremy Whiting wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:29 PM

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-25 Thread Dimitris Kardarakos
As Cornelius has already mentioned, the debate is not about whether we want companies around the KDE community, or not. As long as we create high quality digital products, companies will always be around us. Imho, what really matters is to start discussing on what kind of company ecosystem we

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-08-24, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > This was a quite complex situation, there were many factors involved. But > again the negative feedback was not about the question if it's ok to pay > developers but about other aspects of how the project was handled. And on some of those questions,

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-24 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
Thanks for starting this topic Valorie. Hoping I do not repeat similar observations, wanted to share one thing. Background As soon as KDE application(s) are not publicly tied to "KDE" desktop on several levels, fair rules of competition become possible. I have learned this through the history

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-23 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
Now that I'm coming out of jetlag, catching up on email and so happy to see the direction this discussion is taking. On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 7:51 AM Jeremy Whiting wrote: > > Hi All, > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:29 PM Adriaan de Groot wrote: >> >> Mostly I'm repeating this item from Cornelius

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-23 Thread Jeremy Whiting
Hi All, On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:29 PM Adriaan de Groot wrote: > Mostly I'm repeating this item from Cornelius because it follows so well > from > what Valorie *originally* asked, rather than a bunch of misintepretations > and > discussing-something-else. > > On Monday, 20 August 2018 10:58:05

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-20 Thread Adriaan de Groot
Mostly I'm repeating this item from Cornelius because it follows so well from what Valorie *originally* asked, rather than a bunch of misintepretations and discussing-something-else. On Monday, 20 August 2018 10:58:05 CEST Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > I don't think that anybody has a problem

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-20 Thread Sven Brauch
On Monday, 20 August 2018 18:41:31 CEST Sune Vuorela wrote: > I have still to be convinced that it is a good idea that KDE eV decides > whose work is good enough to qualify for KDE money. Well, you could let the membership vote whether they trust an applicant, for instance. Or let the board

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-08-19, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Interestingly, in almost all conversations I had at Akademy about this topic, > people were actually very positive about the prospect of growing an ecosystem > of companies around KDE. Maybe it's the difference between the people who are > still active

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-20 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Montag, 20. August 2018 00:30:37 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Interestingly, in almost all conversations I had at Akademy about this > topic, people were actually very positive about the prospect of growing an > ecosystem of companies around KDE. Maybe it's the difference between the >

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 11. August 2018 14:25:16 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > In addition there is the widespread opinion that amateurs are better > than professionals for KDE, and that if there are professionals > working on software, that the volunteers will leave. In fact, this > idea seems widespread

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-16 Thread Ilya Bizyaev
Agreed wholeheartedly, more companies doing KDE is the way to go! Cheers, Ilya. On Чт, 16 авг 2018 12:21:58 +0300 h...@kde.org wrote On 8/11/18 7:34 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Am I the only one who thinks of our future in this way? A most hearty no! > Valorie Cheers,

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-13 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On 2018 M08 13, Mon 06:08:38 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Just to follow up: many people have talked about this topic with me at > Akademy. What I'm not seeing is a public discussion here on the > community list. Note: I deliberately did not send this to the e.V. > list because this is not

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-13 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
Just to follow up: many people have talked about this topic with me at Akademy. What I'm not seeing is a public discussion here on the community list. Note: I deliberately did not send this to the e.V. list because this is not strictly an e.V. matter. I do believe that the e.V. should support and

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-11 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:01 AM, Gilles Caulier wrote: > > 2018-08-11 12:34 GMT+02:00 Valorie Zimmerman : >> >> Hello folks, I've recently spent a week with Boud and Irina Rempt at >> their invitation. I hope that this sort of generous hospitality >> becomes the norm in our our KDE family. While

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-11 Thread Gilles Caulier
2018-08-11 12:34 GMT+02:00 Valorie Zimmerman : > Hello folks, I've recently spent a week with Boud and Irina Rempt at > their invitation. I hope that this sort of generous hospitality > becomes the norm in our our KDE family. While there, we had many > conversations about the past, present and

Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

2018-08-11 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
Hello folks, I've recently spent a week with Boud and Irina Rempt at their invitation. I hope that this sort of generous hospitality becomes the norm in our our KDE family. While there, we had many conversations about the past, present and future of KDE. I was surprised to learn that during the