Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Ben Cooksley]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Frederico Goncalves Guimaraes
 wrote:
> Hi Sebas,

Hi Frederico,

>
> Consta no registro SK07313 do Livro da Grande Teia que
> Sebastian, em 07/03/18 escreveu o seguinte:
>
>> Please reply at least to the kde-www list with your name, KDE
>> identity name and the reason why you'd need write access to WKO so we
>> can make this process run smoothly. Also, be a good neighbor and poke
>> your friendly release manager, fellow promo person or whoever in your
>> opinion may need write access to also reply to this email.
>
> I took a look at kde-www list (which I don't subscribe), and noticed
> that subdomains will be migrated later. I'm from KDE Brazil and we have
> a br.kde.org domain with our website. Will we have any news about
> subdomain procedures here on this list or do we need to subscribe to
> kde-www? And do we need to concern about

At this time I would not worry about subdomains.

Any changes to them will be some time far in the future, and will have
a public discussion period beforehand, with existing subdomains being
discussed on a case-by-case basis.

>
> Regards,
>
>
> Frederico

Regards,
Ben Cooksley
KDE Sysadmin

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Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Frederico Goncalves Guimaraes]

Hi Sebas,

Consta no registro SK07313 do Livro da Grande Teia que
Sebastian, em 07/03/18 escreveu o seguinte:

> Please reply at least to the kde-www list with your name, KDE
> identity name and the reason why you'd need write access to WKO so we
> can make this process run smoothly. Also, be a good neighbor and poke
> your friendly release manager, fellow promo person or whoever in your
> opinion may need write access to also reply to this email.

I took a look at kde-www list (which I don't subscribe), and noticed
that subdomains will be migrated later. I'm from KDE Brazil and we have
a br.kde.org domain with our website. Will we have any news about
subdomain procedures here on this list or do we need to subscribe to
kde-www? And do we need to concern about 

Regards,


Frederico
-- 
Linux User #228171
Blog: http://teia.bio.br
Hubzilla: http://hub.vilarejo.pro.br/channel/aracnus
Software Livre Educacional: http://sleducacional.org

"Liberdade, essa palavra que o sonho humano alimenta, que não há
ninguém que explique e ninguém que não entenda." (Cecília Meireles)

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Luigi Toscano]

Aleix Pol ha scritto:
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Ilya Bizyaev  wrote:
>>  On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 11:23:08 +0300 Sebastian Kügler 
>> wrote 
>>
>> That's part of what we need to review: is the new site missing relevant
>> things which need to be migrated? It's something we can surely fix.
>> --
>>
>> The part I am personally concerned about is translations. I see that
>> announcements got imported, but there seems to be no way to view
>> announcements in a different language.
>>
>> Compare:
>> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.12.0.php?site_locale=ru
>> https://www-backstage.kde.org/2018/02/06/plasma-5-12-0/
>>
>> Will the translation history be preserved and used?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ilya.
>>
> 
> There's no intention to remove translations. Texts will possibly
> change, especially if the promo team starts working on the website
> again.
> If you really are concerned, I suggest you step forward and help make
> sure it's integrated as it should.

That's finally a news. Are there any details so far on how the translation
workflow will be implemented?

-- 
Luigi

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Ilya Bizyaev]

Glad to hear it's not planned :)

As I said, they currently seem to not be integrated at all, as I failed to find 
a switch (per-page or global).

 On Fri, 09 Mar 2018 20:07:52 +0300 aleix...@kde.org wrote 

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Ilya Bizyaev  wrote: 
>  On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 11:23:08 +0300 Sebastian Kügler  
> wrote  
> 
> That's part of what we need to review: is the new site missing relevant 
> things which need to be migrated? It's something we can surely fix. 
> -- 
> 
> The part I am personally concerned about is translations. I see that 
> announcements got imported, but there seems to be no way to view 
> announcements in a different language. 
> 
> Compare: 
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.12.0.php?site_locale=ru 
> https://www-backstage.kde.org/2018/02/06/plasma-5-12-0/ 
> 
> Will the translation history be preserved and used? 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Ilya. 
> 

There's no intention to remove translations. Texts will possibly 
change, especially if the promo team starts working on the website 
again. 
If you really are concerned, I suggest you step forward and help make 
sure it's integrated as it should. 

Aleix 

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Ilya Bizyaev]

 On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 11:23:08 +0300 Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org 
wrote 

 

That's part of what we need to review: is the new site missing relevant 

things which need to be migrated? It's something we can surely fix. 

-- 



The part I am personally concerned about is translations. I see that 
announcements got imported, but there seems to be no way to view announcements 
in a different language.



Compare:

https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.12.0.php?site_locale=ru

https://www-backstage.kde.org/2018/02/06/plasma-5-12-0/



Will the translation history be preserved and used?



Cheers,

Ilya.

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On Thursday, 8 March 2018 09:51:33 CET you wrote:
 
> As far as i can see they will be all available, as they will be imported:
> https://www-backstage.kde.org/announcements/

Ah, then I won't worry anymore!

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt | https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Ben Cooksley]

On 8/03/2018 10:47 PM, "Jaroslaw Staniek"  wrote:



On 8 March 2018 at 09:51, Clemens Toennies 
wrote:

> On 08.03.2018 08:44, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 8 March 2018 07:57:27 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Boudewijn Rempt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have been working on a modernized website and backend for
> www.kde.org.
> The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> wordpress instead.
>
 Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history
 from
 the php times is only in subversion anymore and the wordpress (or
 whatever it was) content is completely gone?

>>> The current content of www.kde.org will still remain in Subversion at
>>> the very least.
>>>  From my understanding the plan Sebas has mentioned envisages a
>>> temporary www-legacy.kde.org hostname being kept around until a full
>>> migration is completed.
>>>
>> So we _will_ lose proper access to KDE's release history. That's not good.
>> Pages like  https://www.kde.org/announcements/ and everything it links to
>> should be kept up in eternity.
>>
>
> As far as i can see they will be all available, as they will be imported:
> https://www-backstage.kde.org/announcements/
>

That's very good the content is there. ​Question I would have to the www
community, are we going to keep exact the same URLs?​
This it kind of important key since we link heavily, typically between blog
entry and announcement for example.
I've found our blog content, including blogs.kde.org or forums having dead
links to kde.org.

Technically, maybe URL rewriting would help for URLs that were in
standardized form.

Example of koffice.org as topic harder to handle but possible: currently it
100% redirects to calligra.org but it could redirect from koffice.org/X to
calligra.org/X maybe or calligra.org/koffice/X. Or rewrite the URL so
koffice.org/X would not redirect at all (it depends how we want to have it
presented).

Example link: to http://www.koffice.org/news/koffice-2-1-released/ from the
DOT: https://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/koffice-21-released.
Missing. So relevant announcements for the history of computing, where we
have a place: software for Nokia n900... it's missing so also Wikipedia
references would be dead. The Wiki must to dig in archive.org now (see "KOffice
1.6 Released" at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOffice).

Sibling topic is: dead URLs to relatively new software such as
https://download.kde.org/stable/koffice-2.3.3 (link from
https://marc.info/?l=koffice-devel=129901230231557). If we have no
resources to share the old files (and mirrors refuse that), maybe we could
at least have a landing page that lists possible options how to find the
archived tarballs?


In relation to tarballs, you will find most of these in the Attic/
directory of download.kde.org

After a while we move things there as we have an agreement with the mirrors
that only carry stable that it will be kept to a certain maximum size.



Even more trouble is missing old image resources but this is lesson to
learn, we still have no ultimate solution IMHO, hash filesbased URLs get
created in share.kde.org and this seems to be fragile approach. I'd think
about at the topic as a matter of Freedom in content area. If we're not
solid here, what can we tell to next generation of contributors that say
"Facebook and YouTube just work".

Then we lost image content on blogs, even image tags seem to be somethow
lost: example https://blogs.kde.org/2004/02/24/one-little-feature, archived
at https://web.archive.org/web/20040531171636/http://www.
kdedevelopers.org:80/node/view/359
No images, no context... :(


Older posts like this can unfortunately be broken with platform migrations
I'm afraid. That particular post has been through two major Drupal upgrades
at least, along with a change in the domain.

While we do our best it is unavoidable that some loss will occur with any
change.



​I see the task is not light but preserving KDE history is worth investment
maybe even financial. Blogs are to me part of KDE's identity.
Good part of it is done nicely in the form of preserving the KDE 1.0 / 2.0
desktops.

-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek


Regards,
Ben


KDE:
: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
: and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
KEXI:
: A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
  http://twitter.com/kexi_project https://facebook.com/kexi.project
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Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 8 March 2018 at 09:51, Clemens Toennies 
wrote:

> On 08.03.2018 08:44, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 8 March 2018 07:57:27 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Boudewijn Rempt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have been working on a modernized website and backend for
> www.kde.org.
> The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> wordpress instead.
>
 Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history
 from
 the php times is only in subversion anymore and the wordpress (or
 whatever it was) content is completely gone?

>>> The current content of www.kde.org will still remain in Subversion at
>>> the very least.
>>>  From my understanding the plan Sebas has mentioned envisages a
>>> temporary www-legacy.kde.org hostname being kept around until a full
>>> migration is completed.
>>>
>> So we _will_ lose proper access to KDE's release history. That's not good.
>> Pages like  https://www.kde.org/announcements/ and everything it links to
>> should be kept up in eternity.
>>
>
> As far as i can see they will be all available, as they will be imported:
> https://www-backstage.kde.org/announcements/
>

That's very good the content is there. ​Question I would have to the www
community, are we going to keep exact the same URLs?​
This it kind of important key since we link heavily, typically between blog
entry and announcement for example.
I've found our blog content, including blogs.kde.org or forums having dead
links to kde.org.

Technically, maybe URL rewriting would help for URLs that were in
standardized form.

Example of koffice.org as topic harder to handle but possible: currently it
100% redirects to calligra.org but it could redirect from koffice.org/X to
calligra.org/X maybe or calligra.org/koffice/X. Or rewrite the URL so
koffice.org/X would not redirect at all (it depends how we want to have it
presented).

Example link: to http://www.koffice.org/news/koffice-2-1-released/ from the
DOT: https://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/koffice-21-released.
Missing. So relevant announcements for the history of computing, where we
have a place: software for Nokia n900... it's missing so also Wikipedia
references would be dead. The Wiki must to dig in archive.org now (see "KOffice
1.6 Released" at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOffice).

Sibling topic is: dead URLs to relatively new software such as
https://download.kde.org/stable/koffice-2.3.3 (link from
https://marc.info/?l=koffice-devel=129901230231557). If we have no
resources to share the old files (and mirrors refuse that), maybe we could
at least have a landing page that lists possible options how to find the
archived tarballs?

Even more trouble is missing old image resources but this is lesson to
learn, we still have no ultimate solution IMHO, hash filesbased URLs get
created in share.kde.org and this seems to be fragile approach. I'd think
about at the topic as a matter of Freedom in content area. If we're not
solid here, what can we tell to next generation of contributors that say
"Facebook and YouTube just work".

Then we lost image content on blogs, even image tags seem to be somethow
lost: example https://blogs.kde.org/2004/02/24/one-little-feature, archived
at
https://web.archive.org/web/20040531171636/http://www.kdedevelopers.org:80/node/view/359
No images, no context... :(

​I see the task is not light but preserving KDE history is worth investment
maybe even financial. Blogs are to me part of KDE's identity.
Good part of it is done nicely in the form of preserving the KDE 1.0 / 2.0
desktops.

-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

KDE:
: A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
: and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
KEXI:
: A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
  http://twitter.com/kexi_project https://facebook.com/kexi.project
Qt Certified Specialist:
: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Clemens Toennies]

On 08.03.2018 08:44, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:

On Thursday, 8 March 2018 07:57:27 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:

On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:

Hi all,

We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org.
The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
wordpress instead.

Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
the php times is only in subversion anymore and the wordpress (or
whatever it was) content is completely gone?

The current content of www.kde.org will still remain in Subversion at
the very least.
 From my understanding the plan Sebas has mentioned envisages a
temporary www-legacy.kde.org hostname being kept around until a full
migration is completed.

So we _will_ lose proper access to KDE's release history. That's not good.
Pages like  https://www.kde.org/announcements/ and everything it links to
should be kept up in eternity.


As far as i can see they will be all available, as they will be imported:
https://www-backstage.kde.org/announcements/

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On Thursday, 8 March 2018 08:42:47 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
 
> Yes -- I was refering to what has happened in the past to koffice.org. I'm
> trying to write a history of Krita right now, and I wanted to link to the
> release announcements. Linking to a php source file in subversion isn't a
> very good solution for that, and, of course, everything that was in
> koffice.org's cms was deleted and is gone for good. Fortunately, I could
> find dot.kde.org stories about most old releases, but the actual release
> history of koffice has gone.

Heck, I just noticed that even the svn version of the old koffice.org website 
had gone. Fortunately I've kept a backup, which is now temporarily at https://
github.com/boudewijnrempt/koffice-web/tree/master/announcements

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt | https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Sebastian Kügler]

On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 08:42:47 +0100
Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:

> On Thursday, 8 March 2018 07:58:46 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek 
> > wrote:  
> > > On 7 March 2018 at 12:42, Boudewijn Rempt 
> > > wrote:  
> > >> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:  
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> > 
> > >> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for
> > >> > www.kde.org.
> > >> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will
> > >> > run wordpress instead.  
> > >> 
> > >> Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org
> > >> history from the
> > >> php times is only in subversion anymore and the
> > >> wordpress (or whatever it was)
> > >> content is completely gone?  
> > > 
> > > But kde.org goes for
> > > wordpress , right?
> > > Sebastian, calligra.org uses wordpress so it stays unaffected,
> > > right?  
> > 
> > The only website affected by this is www.kde.org.
> > 
> > No other site is impacted by this (and calligra.org is already on
> > Wordpress anyway)  
> 
> Yes -- I was refering to what has happened in the past to
> koffice.org. I'm trying to write a history of Krita right now, and I
> wanted to link to the release announcements. Linking to a php source
> file in subversion isn't a very good solution for that, and, of
> course, everything that was in koffice.org's cms was deleted and is
> gone for good. Fortunately, I could find dot.kde.org stories about
> most old releases, but the actual release history of koffice has gone.

That's part of what we need to review: is the new site missing relevant
things which need to be migrated? It's something we can surely fix.
-- 
sebas

http://vizZzion.org   ⦿http://www.kde.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On Thursday, 8 March 2018 07:57:27 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org.
> >> The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> >> wordpress instead.
> > 
> > Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
> > the php times is only in subversion anymore and the wordpress (or
> > whatever it was) content is completely gone?
> 
> The current content of www.kde.org will still remain in Subversion at
> the very least.
> From my understanding the plan Sebas has mentioned envisages a
> temporary www-legacy.kde.org hostname being kept around until a full
> migration is completed.

So we _will_ lose proper access to KDE's release history. That's not good. 
Pages like  https://www.kde.org/announcements/ and everything it links to 
should be kept up in eternity.

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt | https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On Thursday, 8 March 2018 07:58:46 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
> > On 7 March 2018 at 12:42, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > 
> >> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for
> >> > www.kde.org.
> >> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> >> > wordpress instead.
> >> 
> >> Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
> >> the
> >> php times is only in subversion anymore and the
> >> wordpress (or whatever it was)
> >> content is completely gone?
> > 
> > But kde.org goes for
> > wordpress , right?
> > Sebastian, calligra.org uses wordpress so it stays unaffected, right?
> 
> The only website affected by this is www.kde.org.
> 
> No other site is impacted by this (and calligra.org is already on
> Wordpress anyway)

Yes -- I was refering to what has happened in the past to koffice.org. I'm 
trying to write a history of Krita right now, and I wanted to link to the 
release announcements. Linking to a php source file in subversion isn't a very 
good solution for that, and, of course, everything that was in koffice.org's 
cms was deleted and is gone for good. Fortunately, I could find dot.kde.org 
stories about most old releases, but the actual release history of koffice has 
gone.

-- 
Boudewijn Rempt | https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Ben Cooksley]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek  wrote:
>
>
> On 7 March 2018 at 12:42, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for
>> > www.kde.org.
>> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
>> > wordpress instead.
>>
>> Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
>> the
>> php times is only in subversion anymore and the
>> wordpress (or whatever it was)
>> content is completely gone?
>
>
> But kde.org goes for
> wordpress , right?
> Sebastian, calligra.org uses wordpress so it stays unaffected, right?

The only website affected by this is www.kde.org.

No other site is impacted by this (and calligra.org is already on
Wordpress anyway)

Cheers,
Ben

>
>
>
> --
> regards, Jaroslaw Staniek
>
> KDE:
> : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators
> : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org
> KEXI:
> : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi
>   http://twitter.com/kexi_project https://facebook.com/kexi.project
> Qt Certified Specialist:
> : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Nick Boyce]

On 7 March 2018 at 15:06, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:
> [This discussion should go to the kde-www list ...]
>
> On woensdag 7 maart 2018 15:31:50 CET Nick Boyce wrote:
>> On 7 March 2018 at 11:31, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:
>> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org.
>> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
>> > wordpress instead.
[...]
>> To avoid my wasting everyone's time by repeating debates I'm sure must
>> already have occurred in depth regarding this decision, can anyone
>> please point me to any publicly accessible archive there may be of
>> such debate ?
>
> There have been two threads discussing this in the past months:
>
> * "Capacity / Wordpress Integration Theme" in August 2017
> * "Wordpress Changeover" in December 2017

Thanks Sebas.  For the benefit of anyone else who's interested, here they are:

https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-www/2017-August/006859.html
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-www/2017-December/006936.html

It looks to me as if there is at least one person watching kde.org's
back on the security aspect here - Ben Cooksley - so I'm breathing
easier now :)

I'll keep any further comment from me on the kde-www list.

Cheers
Nick Boyce

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Sebastian Kügler]

[This discussion should go to the kde-www list, so please let's hold it just 
there as all www topics would easily overpower the kde-community list, I just 
CC:'ed kde-community as we're changing access rights and we need to make sure 
that no critical processes are being hindered.]

On woensdag 7 maart 2018 15:31:50 CET Nick Boyce wrote:
> On 7 March 2018 at 11:31, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:
> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org.
> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> > wordpress instead.
> 
> Sorry to be late to this party  I'm just following along at home
> here, but as a sysadmin with a reasonable level of interest in
> defending systems against breakin I choke on my breakfast as I read
> this statement.
> 
> To avoid my wasting everyone's time by repeating debates I'm sure must
> already have occurred in depth regarding this decision, can anyone
> please point me to any publicly accessible archive there may be of
> such debate ?

There have been two threads discussing this in the past months:

* "Capacity / Wordpress Integration Theme" in August 2017
* "Wordpress Changeover" in December 2017

Cheers,
-- 
sebas

http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Nick Boyce]

On 7 March 2018 at 11:31, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:

> We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org. The
> new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run wordpress
> instead.

Sorry to be late to this party  I'm just following along at home
here, but as a sysadmin with a reasonable level of interest in
defending systems against breakin I choke on my breakfast as I read
this statement.

To avoid my wasting everyone's time by repeating debates I'm sure must
already have occurred in depth regarding this decision, can anyone
please point me to any publicly accessible archive there may be of
such debate ?

Thanks

Nick Boyce

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Sebastian Kügler]

On woensdag 7 maart 2018 13:31:27 CET Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:
> On 7 March 2018 at 12:42, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org.
> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> > wordpress instead.
> 
> Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
> the php times is only in subversion anymore and the ​​wordpress (or
> whatever it was) content is completely gone?
> 
> But ​kde.org goes for ​wordpress , right?​
> Sebastian, calligra.org uses wordpress so it stays unaffected, right?

AFAIK, the plan is to only move www.kde.org for now. Please ask on the kde-www 
list, though, I'm just a messenger. :)
-- 
sebas

http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org

Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 7 March 2018 at 12:42, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:

> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org
> .
> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> > wordpress instead.
>
> Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
> the
> php times is only in subversion anymore and the
> ​​
> wordpress (or whatever it was)
> content is completely gone?
>

But ​kde.org goes for
​
wordpress , right?​
Sebastian, calligra.org uses wordpress so it stays unaffected, right?



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Re: do you need www.kde.org write access?

[Sebastian Kügler]

On woensdag 7 maart 2018 12:42:23 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 12:31:21 CET Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > We have been working on a modernized website and backend for www.kde.org.
> > The new site will do away with the old PHP custom CMS and will run
> > wordpress instead.
> 
> Does that mean we'll lose our history, just like koffice.org history from
> the php times is only in subversion anymore and the wordpress (or whatever
> it was) content is completely gone?

I don't know how the site data is stored, but probably you should ask this on 
the kde-www list. (This list was only in CC: for coverage reasons, you may 
have missed that.)

Cheers,
-- 
sebas

http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org