Am Freitag, 10. Mai 2019, 16:49:13 CEST schrieb Nate Graham:
> Lydia and/or board members, what do you think about using a bit of e.V.
> money to hire a lawyer to definitely answer this question for us?
Lets ask our KDE Free Qt Feoundation lawyer. I guess that the fee would be
minimal or none.
Lydia and/or board members, what do you think about using a bit of e.V.
money to hire a lawyer to definitely answer this question for us?
Nate
On 4/11/19 11:55 AM, David Edmundson wrote:
There are legal implications as the copyright is ultimately held by real people.
Right now the linux
On woensdag 17 april 2019 00:03:08 CEST Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El dimarts, 16 d’abril de 2019, a les 23:25:47 CEST, Boudewijn Rempt va
> escriure:
> > On dinsdag 16 april 2019 23:04:02 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > > So this would actually implement what you ask for: no guess work
Hi,
Whether or not we can be sure that a string is a name should not be
relevant to us.
Just answering to say that this is actually what we're actually
discussing in this thread.
Can/Should we accept anonymous contributions (and thus we should not
care about a string being a name) or not?
I
El dimarts, 16 d’abril de 2019, a les 23:25:47 CEST, Boudewijn Rempt va
escriure:
> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 23:04:02 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > So this would actually implement what you ask for: no guess work about
> > valid
> > names.
>
> Whether or not we can be sure that a
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 23:04:02 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> So this would actually implement what you ask for: no guess work about valid
> names.
What I want is an absolute cessation of any attempt at validating names. We
should not do that. Whether or not we can be sure that a
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:08 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
wrote:
>
> Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 22:59:52 CEST schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
> > I completely fail to understand what you're trying to say. This has nothing
> > to do with a commit hook that makes a misguided attempt at parsing strings
>
Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 22:59:52 CEST schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
> I completely fail to understand what you're trying to say. This has nothing
> to do with a commit hook that makes a misguided attempt at parsing strings
> and validating them as real names.
? It has. For the start, it simply
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:58:26 -0600 Boudewijn Rempt
wrote
> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:31:38 CEST Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
>
> > It seems easier to whitelist legitimate mononyms on request...
>
> No, no, no! You cannot do that, unless you have an exhaustive list of "valid
>
I completely fail to understand what you're trying to say. This has nothing to
do with a commit hook that makes a misguided attempt at parsing strings and
validating them as real names. We should not have that hook; such a hook cannot
be implemented.
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:42:50 CEST
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:31:38 CEST Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
> It seems easier to whitelist legitimate mononyms on request...
No, no, no! You cannot do that, unless you have an exhaustive list of "valid
mononyms" -- and you're still deluding yourself into the assumption that you
can code
Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 21:38:04 CEST schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> This hook was implemented in the first place to ensure that people had
> correctly setup Git on their local machine.
>
> On some versions of Git (maybe all?) it will automatically use the local
> user account name as the name.
>
Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 22:29:49 CEST schrieb Friedrich W. H. Kossebau:
> Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 22:16:40 CEST schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
> > On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:10:54 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > > I wonder if the commit push hook could not actually compare against
>
There's another, related thing. We've got a "full name" checking git hook which
tries to force commits to have "real names".
This hook is, of course, broken: no software developer can ever make a check
for names that's not brokenm because there _are no rules for names_. This check
thinks that
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:16:40 -0600 Boudewijn Rempt
wrote
> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:10:54 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I wonder if the commit push hook could not actually compare against
> > identity.kde.org to check for validness of name & email
Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 22:16:40 CEST schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:10:54 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> > I wonder if the commit push hook could not actually compare against
> > identity.kde.org to check for validness of name & email address, at least
> > for
> On 16 Apr 2019, at 16:45, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>
>> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 21:38:04 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote:
>>
>> This hook was implemented in the first place to ensure that people had
>> correctly setup Git on their local machine.
>>
>> On some versions of Git (maybe all?) it will
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:16:40 -0600 Boudewijn Rempt
wrote
> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:10:54 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I wonder if the commit push hook could not actually compare against
> > identity.kde.org to check for validness of name & email
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:10:54 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
>
> I wonder if the commit push hook could not actually compare against
> identity.kde.org to check for validness of name & email address, at least for
> the committer. The schema there already has name & email-address,
Am Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 22:00:24 CEST schrieb Nate Graham:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:38:04 -0600 Ben Cooksley
> wrote
> > This hook was implemented in the first place to ensure that people had
> > correctly setup Git on their local machine. On some versions of Git
> > (maybe
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 22:00:24 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> The only people who have commit access have been specifically granted this
> privilege.
Not quite: there are also the people who have submitted patches, but haven't
got access yet, and then we have to push their first couple of
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:38:04 -0600 Ben Cooksley wrote
> This hook was implemented in the first place to ensure that people had
> correctly setup Git on their local machine.
> On some versions of Git (maybe all?) it will automatically use the local
> user account name as the
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 21:38:04 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote:
> This hook was implemented in the first place to ensure that people had
> correctly setup Git on their local machine.
>
> On some versions of Git (maybe all?) it will automatically use the local
> user account name as the name.
>
>
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, 03:03 Boudewijn Rempt, wrote:
> On dinsdag 16 april 2019 15:15:48 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:14:31 -0600 Boudewijn Rempt
> wrote
> > >
> > > There's another, related thing. We've got a "full name" checking git
> hook which tries to force
On dinsdag 16 april 2019 15:15:48 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:14:31 -0600 Boudewijn Rempt wrote
>
> >
> > There's another, related thing. We've got a "full name" checking git hook
> which tries to force commits to have "real names".
> >
> > This hook is,
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:14:31 -0600 Boudewijn Rempt wrote
>
> There's another, related thing. We've got a "full name" checking git hook
> which tries to force commits to have "real names".
>
> This hook is, of course, broken: no software developer can ever make a check
>
Hi,
On 2019-04-12 21:43, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2019-04-12, Eike Hein wrote:
Pseudonyms don't jive with that for me. Someone not entrusting me with
their real name feels regressive vs. our current community standards.
It's a bit uncomfortable.
I have kind of the same feeling. Though real
On 2019-04-12, Eike Hein wrote:
> Pseudonyms don't jive with that for me. Someone not entrusting me with
> their real name feels regressive vs. our current community standards.
> It's a bit uncomfortable.
I have kind of the same feeling. Though real name doesn't have to be
legal name.
But
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:04 PM Nate Graham wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:55:42 -0600 David Edmundson <
da...@davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote
> > There are legal implications as the copyright is ultimately held by
real people.
>
> Could we require that anonymous contributors
On Friday, 12 April 2019 08:17:55 CEST Eike Hein wrote:
> Pseudonyms don't jive with that for me. Someone not entrusting me with
> their real name feels regressive vs. our current community standards.
> It's a bit uncomfortable.
I trust you with my real name. Not with my legal name. That's only
I'm a bit conflicted about this. Random drive-by patches are one thing,
but when I engage with new contributors, my hope is they'll be coming
back and walk a path to a dev account and a long-term commitment to the
KDE developer community.
To me, the KDE developer community is one built on
Il giorno Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:50:57 +0200
Boudewijn Rempt ha
scritto:
> historical baggage, but anyway). I do agree with you, and I would
> like us to start acccepting pseudonymous contributions officially.
As a packager who had to deal with many license inconsistencies (not
due to bad
On donderdag 11 april 2019 20:56:03 CEST Christoph Cullmann wrote:
> As we did never verify any names nor identities, is the discussion not
> mood?
"Moot" -- as in ent-moot from Lord of the Rings (with lots more of historical
baggage, but anyway). I do agree with you, and I would like us to
Hi,
I tried to re-license parts of KTextEditor in the past.
Real names help close to nothing if the mail addresses are no longer
valid or the people don't respond, even if valid.
You just can't track them, unfortunately there are more "Max Schmidt"s
around on the world then lets say "Christoph
El dijous, 11 d’abril de 2019, a les 20:56:03 CEST, Christoph Cullmann va
escriure:
> On 2019-04-11 20:36, David Edmundson wrote:
> > We would need to ask a lawyer.
> > I only know enough to know that I don't know enough.
> Hi,
>
> independent of any lawyer, my 2 cents:
>
> As we did never
Can we please distinguish between "real name" and "legal name"? If there's a
question of copyright law, legal names may be necessary though for some people
(me, for instance) their legal name is not the name they use in daily life and
are generally known by. Requiring someone's real name
On 2019-04-11 20:36, David Edmundson wrote:
We would need to ask a lawyer.
I only know enough to know that I don't know enough.
Hi,
independent of any lawyer, my 2 cents:
As we did never verify any names nor identities, is the discussion not
mood?
We already accept contributions, by lets
We would need to ask a lawyer.
I only know enough to know that I don't know enough.
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:55:42 -0600 David Edmundson
wrote
> There are legal implications as the copyright is ultimately held by real
> people.
Could we require that anonymous contributors relinquish copyright claims to
KDE? When this came up the other day
There are legal implications as the copyright is ultimately held by real people.
Right now the linux kernel does not accept anonymous or pseudonyms for
that reason.
There was a thread a while back, it needs a real free software lawyer
to give an answer.
David
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