Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-07-05 Thread David Jarvie
On Sunday 03 July 2011 03:31:07 Nicolás Alvarez wrote: On 6/26/11, Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07,

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-07-02 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
On 6/26/11, Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: Well, obviously a Tier 1

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-28 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, June 27, 2011 22:18:08 Ingo Klöcker wrote: Localization is not only about user visible texts, It is also about kconfig having per language keys, it is about kstandarddirs::locate being able to find localized icons, etc. I hear you, but by the definition of Tier 1 none of this

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-28 Thread John Layt
On Tuesday 28 Jun 2011 17:27:35 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Monday, June 27, 2011 22:18:08 Ingo Klöcker wrote: Localization is not only about user visible texts, It is also about kconfig having per language keys, it is about kstandarddirs::locate being able to find localized icons, etc.

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-27 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 26 June 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Sunday, June 26, 2011, Ingo Klöcker va escriure: On Tuesday 07 June 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07,

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-26 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Tuesday 07 June 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: Well, obviously a Tier 1 framework would have to use tr() instead of

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-26 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Sunday, June 26, 2011, Ingo Klöcker va escriure: On Tuesday 07 June 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: Well, obviously a

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-08 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, John Layt va escriure: We discussed translation briefly at Platform 11 and Qt moving to or supporting .po is something we really want to push for at QCS. I really hope we have some people

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-08 Thread John Layt
On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 18:57:22 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, John Layt va escriure: We discussed translation briefly at Platform 11 and Qt moving to or supporting .po is something we really want to push for at QCS. I really hope we have some people knowledgable about

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-08 Thread John Layt
On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 19:48:30 Mark wrote: Just a comment that might be of interest to some (just found this link): http://code.google.com/p/simple-gettext/ It also has a Qt wrapper.. Interesting, but not very active, GPL3 so not something that could be used in library code, and lacking

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-08 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Wednesday, June 08, 2011, John Layt va escriure: On Wednesday 08 Jun 2011 19:48:30 Mark wrote: Just a comment that might be of interest to some (just found this link): http://code.google.com/p/simple-gettext/ It also has a Qt wrapper.. Interesting, but not very active, GPL3 so not

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-07 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: Well, obviously a Tier 1 framework would have to use tr() instead of i18n() for its translation needs. Are we still going

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-07 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, June 7, 2011 08:39:58 Inge Wallin wrote: So a well defined API that applications could use, and a well isolated way to include a set of implementations would be nice. We are dealing with the best way to make this happen is to create a concrete plan and propose it. for

Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-07 Thread Manuel Sput Nickschas
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 08:46:54 Albert Astals Cid wrote: This means that if you want Tier 1 frameworks to be translatable you need either to teach Qt to understand gettext files natively or to make Tier 1 frameworks use pure based Qt/Linguist solutions which does not fit either in what

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 07.06.11 11:51:29, Manuel Sput Nickschas wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 08:46:54 Albert Astals Cid wrote: This means that if you want Tier 1 frameworks to be translatable you need either to teach Qt to understand gettext files natively or to make Tier 1 frameworks use pure based

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-07 Thread John Layt
On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 00:38:58 Kevin Ottens wrote: Right, however there's also a plan ATM to get the settings between KLocale and QLocale shared. John is working on that right now, so it depends a bit on the outcome, in any cases the situation is likely to improve on that particular point.

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-07 Thread John Layt
On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 10:51:29 Manuel Sput Nickschas wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 08:46:54 Albert Astals Cid wrote: This means that if you want Tier 1 frameworks to be translatable you need either to teach Qt to understand gettext files natively or to make Tier 1 frameworks use pure

Re: Native gettext support for Qt (was: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks)

2011-06-07 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, John Layt va escriure: We discussed translation briefly at Platform 11 and Qt moving to or supporting .po is something we really want to push for at QCS. I really hope we have some people knowledgable about translation at QCS able to argue the point, otherwise please

Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-06 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello lists, disclaimer As, Sebas pointed out we've been meeting here to work on plans to improve our frameworks offering leading to the decision of leaving the current kdelibs model behind and prepare for a more modular suite named KDE Frameworks. If you didn't read his email yet, please do

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-06 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 7 June 2011 00:17:23 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Monday, June 06, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: Hello lists, Throughout this example we will refer to the following graph: http://files.kde.org/ervin/platform11/kde-frameworks-dependencies-plan.pd f Shall i read from this

Re: Intended organization of KDE Frameworks

2011-06-06 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 7 June 2011 01:26:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Tuesday, June 07, 2011, Kevin Ottens va escriure: Well, obviously a Tier 1 framework would have to use tr() instead of i18n() for its translation needs. Are we still going to use .po or you plan on us moving to Qt translation