Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, February 13, 2012 17:51:23 Shaun Reich wrote: hate to chime in as well, but i think replacing the Windows shell should definitely be something that's looked at. imho it makes a lot of sense. face it, the Windows shell sucks. how many windows users realistically change the shell,

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-14 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 14 February 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Monday, February 13, 2012 17:51:23 Shaun Reich wrote: hate to chime in as well, but i think replacing the Windows shell should definitely be something that's looked at. imho it makes a lot of sense. face it, the Windows shell sucks.

Re: Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-14 Thread Shaun Reich
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday 14 February 2012 19:12:58 Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Tuesday 14 February 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Monday, February 13, 2012 17:51:23 Shaun Reich wrote: hate to chime in as well, but i think

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread David Faure
On Saturday 11 February 2012 20:00:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote: kded... for what things is this needed when running only a single application ? The main reason currently is so that it watches desktop files and keeps ksycoca up-to-date. The other uses of KDED are on-demand (kssl, timezones,

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.orgwrote: Pau had the idea to write a fake libdbus for Windows, which internally doesn't talk to a dbus daemon, but which uses the Windows messaging service. On Linux DBUS is no problem. On Mac ? I don't know. Probably better

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Andre Heinecke aheine...@intevation.dewrote: The perception that dbus is a problem on Windows is outdated. Dbus was a huge problem on windows but currently the situation is pretty good, we reall have no known issues with it. We can run multiple instances

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, February 11, 2012 20:00:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote: It is cool to be able to replace the Windows shell... but does it make sense fwiw, it's always been my opinion that it does not make sense to do this. it doesn't solve a real problem on the windows platform, and as such does not

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Saturday 11 February 2012, Alexander Neundorf wrote: Hi, KDE is based on Qt, and Qt is very cross platform. While there are Windows and also OSX builds of KDE4, they are not really successful. I mean, it's not like everybody is running amarok today under Windows, or kate, or kdevelop,

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Christoph Feck
On Monday 13 February 2012 22:57:56 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2012 20:00:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote: It is cool to be able to replace the Windows shell... but does it make sense fwiw, it's always been my opinion that it does not make sense to do this. it doesn't

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Shaun Reich
hate to chime in as well, but i think replacing the Windows shell should definitely be something that's looked at. imho it makes a lot of sense. face it, the Windows shell sucks. why are we replacing their apps and adding our own (dolphin kicking explorer's butt)? because the default ones are

Re: From kdelibs4 to KDE frameworks... how to make KDE more cross platform...

2012-02-13 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
2012/2/13 Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org Are there more important reasons than it scares Windows users? Windows does already run so many services on its own. Why do a few more processes matter? Why do the users care anyway? IMNSHO, they should stop looking at their task manager or process