On Saturday 30 June 2012 17:02:27 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
On Thursday, 28. June 2012 14:38:37 viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Il 27/06/2012 23:41, Martin Gräßlin ha scritto:
On Wednesday 27 June 2012 23:28:30 Ivan Čukić wrote:
Hi all,
I've tested the waters some time ago [1] what would
-1 from me.
Latest Slackware release has 4.5, and I would very much prefer if this
stays
working.
I don't see the features mentioned worth dropping platforms.
Alex
Yes, but the slackware-current is coming with gcc-4.7
Hello,
On Sunday 1 July 2012 08:02:28 Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
I'm actually not sure kde-core-devel is the right list... But the e.V.
mailing list certainly isn't, and we don't seem to have any place for
discussions that affect KDE as a whole.
Well, I think nowadays the name of kde-core-devel
On Sunday 1 July 2012 09:21:08 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 08:02:28, Boudewijn Rempt va
escriure:
I'm actually not sure kde-core-devel is the right list... But the e.V.
mailing list certainly isn't, and we don't seem to have any place for
discussions
On Sunday, July 01, 2012 09:21:08 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
I disagree, as a matter of fact, I don't have internet connection in the
room in my hostel, so if i had a need to use krita I'd need to read its
manual (since my painting/drawing skills are null) and i'd be not happy to
discover I
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 09:49:11, Kevin Ottens va escriure:
On Sunday 1 July 2012 09:21:08 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 08:02:28, Boudewijn Rempt va
escriure:
I'm actually not sure kde-core-devel is the right list... But the e.V.
Hi,
Am Sonntag, 1. Juli 2012, 09:21:08 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 08:02:28, Boudewijn Rempt va
escriure:
In any case, Ingo Malchow said in his blog
(http://blog.neverendingo.de/?p=125)
We have a great userbase.kde.org but developers don’t use it
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James Booth wrote:
For future reference for anyone else that has this problem, Andras's
suggestion worked. Thanks!
Sorry, I forgot to send to the list (didn't check the To field).
Did you make a bug report?
Andras
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Ship it!
Looks good (except for the new trailing whitespaces,
On Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:15:05 PM Andras Mantia wrote:
James Booth wrote:
For future reference for anyone else that has this problem, Andras's
suggestion worked. Thanks!
Sorry, I forgot to send to the list (didn't check the To field).
And now it is wrong list. I suck. :(
Andras
On 07/01/2012 07:02 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
After yesterday's discussion where David said that for frameworks/qt5 the help
center invocation is actually one of the trickier things, I'm giving this out
for consideration for other app developers...
Over at Konversation we've likewise
On Sunday 01 July 2012 Jul, Eike Hein wrote:
On 07/01/2012 07:02 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
After yesterday's discussion where David said that for frameworks/qt5 the
help center invocation is actually one of the trickier things, I'm giving
this out for consideration for other app
Am 30.06.2012 17:31, schrieb Heinz Wiesinger:
However, the point of dropping platforms in general remains, I
suppose.
From what I understood the compilers are available in FreeBSD and I
think there was no other system having problems with it.
Regards
Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 1 July 2012 10:17:21 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 09:49:11, Kevin Ottens va escriure:
More seriously, I think we shouldn't loose perspective here. Yes, you're
right, it *can* happen, but Boudewijn is also right, it's becoming rare
situation.
On Sunday 01 July 2012 Jul, Kevin Ottens wrote:
And i'm going to be a pain here, but i do not agree userbase scale better
either.
Let's see Krita manual at http://userbase.kde.org/Krita it's translated to 7
languages only two of them being at 100%
Now let's see KMail manual at
On Sunday 01 July 2012 Jul, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
On Sunday 01 July 2012 Jul, Eike Hein wrote:
On 07/01/2012 07:02 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
After yesterday's discussion where David said that for frameworks/qt5 the
help center invocation is actually one of the trickier things, I'm
2012/7/1 Eike Hein h...@kde.org:
Ultimately Albert isn't wrong with his concern, but the reality
seems to be that we just can't get our act together on the
offline documentation while maintaining the wiki comes a lot
easier to us. And it's better to have wiki documentation than
no good
Hi,
On Sunday, July 01, 2012 09:21:08 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 08:02:28, Boudewijn Rempt
I'm not concerned that users cannot access the help when they are
off-line. That's a vanishingly rare situation these days
I disagree, as a matter of fact, I
On 07/01/2012 07:02 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
After yesterday's discussion where David said that for
frameworks/qt5 the help center invocation is actually one of the
trickier things, I'm giving this out for consideration for other
app developers...
Over at Konversation we've likewise
On 07/01/2012 01:35 PM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
I just got that :-). I'm very happy with it, but Eike is right that it probably
wouldn't scale, being a poller. It's really something that needs to be fixed in
the wiki system, so we can get a mail for every change to a manual done in the
wiki.
Am Sonntag, 1. Juli 2012, 13:14:19 schrieb Kevin Ottens:
On Sunday 1 July 2012 10:17:21 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 09:49:11, Kevin Ottens va
escriure:
More seriously, I think we shouldn't loose perspective here. Yes,
you're right, it *can* happen,
написане Sun, 01 Jul 2012 10:49:11 +0300, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org:
On Sunday 1 July 2012 09:21:08 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 08:02:28, Boudewijn Rempt va
escriure:
I'm actually not sure kde-core-devel is the right list... But the e.V.
mailing list
Windows emerge tool currently uses gcc 4.6.4 for 64-bit and either gcc 4.7
or msvc 2010 for 32-bit, so for gcc builds there should be no problem, I'm
not sure about msvc.
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2012/7/1 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org
Am 30.06.2012 17:31, schrieb Heinz Wiesinger:
However, the point
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Am 01.07.2012 13:14, schrieb Kevin Ottens:
On Sunday 1 July 2012 10:17:21 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 09:49:11, Kevin Ottens va
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More seriously, I think we shouldn't loose perspective here.
Yes,
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El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:37:44, Alexander Dymo va escriure:
2012/7/1 Eike Hein h...@kde.org:
Ultimately Albert isn't wrong with his concern, but the reality
seems to be that we just can't get our act together on the
offline documentation while maintaining the wiki comes a
On Sunday 1 July 2012 14:49:59 Ingo Malchow wrote:
Actually no need to. Translations can already be exported/imported as
po files. One of the benefits of the translate extension (which was
highlighted today in a talk at akademy ;) And docbook export is also
something that is being tested. It
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This thread was pointed out to me, and I'd like to comment on some of
the points raised.
Off-line documentation -
There is an extension, Collections, which allows users to select
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Am 01.07.2012 15:33, schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:37:44, Alexander Dymo va
escriure:
2012/7/1 Eike Hein h...@kde.org:
Ultimately Albert isn't wrong with his concern, but the
reality seems to be that we
On 07/01/2012 03:28 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Eike - there is a Special:RecentChangesLinked - have you explored the
possibility of that working for you?
Visiting a page == polling.
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Eike Hein
(Many things have been already pointed out, but I'll repeat, to hopefully
frame it a bit more concretely.)
The way I see it, there are really three conceptually independent aspects
here:
1) Documentation should be up to date, promtly reacting to changes in
program features and behavior.
2)
On 07/01/2012 05:45 PM, Chusslove Illich wrote:
_From my viewpoint, that which is on Konversation wiki is not reference
documentation, which you too implied in the preceding text; and not having
reference is completely fine by me, as I mentioned above. Even so, how comes
this existing content on
[: Chusslove Illich :]
[...] Could it be that you are simply driven away by the Docbook's
towering hulk? :)
[: Eike Hein :]
Yes - that's basically what I alluded to re gives you easy preview.
Right, so there are a few ways to think about this.
One is that even wanting a preview when using
Am 01.07.2012 17:45, schrieb Chusslove Illich:
But, when program authors do decide that they want to have reference
documentation, I don't see how any workflow can be technically more
suitable
(easier to write, easier to maintain) than the documentation source
files
residing right with the
Am Sonntag, 1. Juli 2012, 20:33:26 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
Am 01.07.2012 17:45, schrieb Chusslove Illich:
But, when program authors do decide that they want to have reference
documentation, I don't see how any workflow can be technically more
suitable
(easier to write, easier to maintain)
[: Burkhard Lück :]
That's really crazy [...] similar to Yuri I found it easy to write docbook
markup.
While to me Docbook is simply less bad than other things, so I use Docbook
when I want to document something about software (if I didn't need HTML
pages, I'd use Latex instead). And when
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On Saturday, 30. June 2012 19:20:07 Antonis Tsiapaliokas wrote:
-1 from me.
Latest Slackware release has 4.5, and I would very much prefer if this
stays
working.
I don't see the features mentioned worth dropping platforms.
Alex
Yes, but the slackware-current is coming with
On Sunday, 1. July 2012 10:22:41 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
Hi,
Am Sonntag, 1. Juli 2012, 09:21:08 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
El Diumenge, 1 de juliol de 2012, a les 08:02:28, Boudewijn Rempt va
escriure:
In any case, Ingo Malchow said in his blog
Am Sonntag, 1. Juli 2012, 21:56:16 schrieb Chusslove Illich:
[: Burkhard Lück :]
That's really crazy [...] similar to Yuri I found it easy to write
docbook markup.
While to me Docbook is simply less bad than other things, so I use Docbook
when I want to document something about software
[: Burkhard Lück :]
But what I really don't understand, why a devel writing C/C++ code says
xml is just a form of binary.
Hey, some devel writing Lisp code say C++ is just a form of binary.
Doesn't really matter why.
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Am 01.07.2012 21:56, schrieb Chusslove Illich:
[: Burkhard Lück :] That's really crazy [...] similar to Yuri I
found it easy to write docbook markup.
While to me Docbook is simply less bad than other things, so I use
Docbook when I want to
On 07/01/2012 09:56 PM, Chusslove Illich wrote:
I further argue that, if people who are accustomed to version control find
web-something-thingy (such as wiki) optimal for their documentation writing
workflow, something has gone horribly wrong; and that efficiency of writing
and maintenance, as
So, in essence, the summary of the thread so far:
- libs still need to be compilable by old compilers until we get
Qt5/KF5 (afterwards, the requirement will be that of Qt itself)
- apps that don't target Mac, can depend on gcc-4.5-equivalent
compilers, as present in all stable releases of
[: Chusslove Illich :]
I further argue that, if people who are accustomed to version control
find web-something-thingy (such as wiki) optimal for their documentation
writing workflow, something has gone horribly wrong;
[: Ingo Malchow :]
Sorry, not sure i get you here. Do you mean a certain
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Am 01.07.2012 23:19, schrieb Chusslove Illich:
[: Chusslove Illich :] I further argue that, if people who are
accustomed to version control find web-something-thingy (such
as wiki) optimal for their documentation writing workflow,
something has
On Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:08:43 PM Ivan Čukić wrote:
...
- 4.6 is desired for the features, but problematic since not all
current stable versions of distros sport this version (last to fall
into line - Slackware)
...
Debian Stable (Squeeze) is also 4.5 by default. The next version (Wheezy)
Alle lunedì 2 luglio 2012, Scott Kitterman ha scritto:
On Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:08:43 PM Ivan Čukić wrote:
...
- 4.6 is desired for the features, but problematic since not all
current stable versions of distros sport this version (last to fall
into line - Slackware)
...
Debian
Hi everyone,
so let's sum up and get back to arguments.
1. Versioning for our KDE SC Releases
It was mentioned that a wiki automatically provides versioning. However, what
is completely not covered, yet, is the fact that we have different KDE SC
releases. There is not 'branching' support for
On Sunday, July 01, 2012 07:02:28 Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
I'm actually not sure kde-core-devel is the right list... But the e.V.
mailing list certainly isn't, and we don't seem to have any place for
discussions that affect KDE as a whole.
In any case, Ingo Malchow said in his blog
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