Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 10:27:19PM +0100, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > I have never said that it only works with nVidia or ATI (I would rather > suspect that ATI could make issues) - I have an integrated Intel GPU in my > notebook and it works fine. Seems to work fine even with my pc. From the specs i

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 11/07/2013 10:10 PM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 01:30:44PM -0600, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: At what point is is cheaper to buy the KiCad user a new computer, than it is to write software for his incompatible computer? Well, toughbooks are not exactly cheap even on the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 08:59:05PM +0100, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > IMHO the real reason for keeping the software renderer are the Linux users > who bought/got hardware that doesn't work reliably under Linux (some ATI/S3 > cards, people who want only F/OSS drivers). If this is a significant group

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 01:30:44PM -0600, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > At what point is is cheaper to buy the KiCad user a new computer, than it is > to write > software for his incompatible computer? Well, toughbooks are not exactly cheap even on the used market :D I don't know where you live but he

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 08:03:20PM +0100, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > It could be used when OpenGL renderer does not work. I am not really sure if > eg. Intel Atom integrated graphics is able to use it. I have seen a glewinfo > report that states the GPU is compatible only up to OpenGL 1.4, which is 1

Re: [Kicad-developers] parts-list and BOM

2013-11-07 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
Thanks Konstantin. Clearly it was a major expenditure of effort and the time you put into the documentation is very impressive. Unfortunately I was not able to glean much from the code in a short time. (I wonder if English "Specification" means the same thing in Russian as it does in English.)

Re: [Kicad-developers] parts-list and BOM

2013-11-07 Thread Барановский Константин
Here was implemented native generator of the BOM in *.ods format: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-gost-committers/kicad/kicad/files/head:/eeschema/GOST-doc-gen/ 07.11.2013 21:23, Dick Holle

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 11/07/2013 01:59 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 11/07/2013 08:30 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: >> On 11/07/2013 01:03 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: >>> On 11/07/2013 07:11 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 11/07/2013 11:59 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wro

Re: [Kicad-developers] parts-list and BOM

2013-11-07 Thread Барановский Константин
Hello Dick! Please look at this https://launchpad.net/kicadbom2spec. Documentation on Russian but comments in sources on English. Hope it will be helpful. Regards Konstantin 07.11.2013 21:23, Dick Hollenbeck пишет: After finishing a board today, I still feel like our BOM support is lacking, so

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 11/07/2013 08:30 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 11/07/2013 01:03 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 11/07/2013 07:11 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 11/07/2013 11:59 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/5/201

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 11/07/2013 08:30 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 11/07/2013 01:03 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 11/07/2013 07:11 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 11/07/2013 11:59 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/5/201

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 11/07/2013 01:03 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > On 11/07/2013 07:11 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: >> On 11/07/2013 11:59 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>> On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 11/5/2013 4:33 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote:

[Kicad-developers] parts-list and BOM

2013-11-07 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
After finishing a board today, I still feel like our BOM support is lacking, so I have some thoughts to share, get some feedback, and maybe figure out how to get it coded in python. My Definitions, so you can follow: === part = something from

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 11/07/2013 07:12 PM, "Torsten Hüter" wrote: Hi Orson, thanks for the great work! When I've developed the Cairo backend, my idea was not only to use Cairo for printing but also as rendering engine for eeschema. For example compare GEDA gschem, they use there Cairo as well and the screen output

[Kicad-developers] best KiCad OS X distro - where is it?

2013-11-07 Thread Fabrizio Tappero
Hello Guys, some people have been asking for the OS X distribution of KiCad. Can I please be directed to some webpage? thank you Fabrizio ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsub

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 11/07/2013 07:11 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 11/07/2013 11:59 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/5/2013 4:33 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: Does anyone have anything against disabling switching (remove

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad look (the icon situation)

2013-11-07 Thread Fabrizio Tappero
Dear Jean-Pierre, my apologies for the late answer, I was busy at work. Thank you for taking the time to write this lengthy e-mail. I just would like to clarify that I never expressed any intention of using non-svg format. I just mentioned that simply converting svg to any raster format does not

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Torsten Hüter
Hi Orson,   thanks for the great work!   When I've developed the Cairo backend, my idea was not only to use Cairo for printing but also as rendering engine for eeschema. For example compare GEDA gschem, they use there Cairo as well and the screen output looks in my opinion much better than eesc

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 11/07/2013 11:59 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: >> On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >>> On 11/5/2013 4:33 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: Does anyone have anything against disabling switching (remove its hotkey and menu entry) to Cai

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 11/7/2013 12:36 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> On 11/5/2013 4:33 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: >>> Does anyone have anything against disabling switching (remove its hotkey >>> and menu entry) to Cairo backend? I think it may only give a bad >>> impres

Re: [Kicad-developers] Cairo rendering backend

2013-11-07 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 11/05/2013 07:40 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 11/5/2013 4:33 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: Does anyone have anything against disabling switching (remove its hotkey and menu entry) to Cairo backend? I think it may only give a bad impression to users, as it is too slow for comfortable work. I am