Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 08:28:35AM +0200, yann jautard wrote: > Exactly. So why change something everyone is used to ? Didn't make the library policies :P I suggested the ones I use (tested & reliable) then some other set was decided. I think the dev list is not the place to discuss this and I

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Go talk to the library people, see https://launchpad.net/~kicad-lib-committers 2015-09-15 8:38 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo Marcantonio : > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 08:28:35AM +0200, yann jautard wrote: > >> Exactly. So why change something everyone is used to ? > > Didn't make

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 08:12:23PM +0200, nnn wrote: > Ok but my question is if I can move values from fab to silks (hidden) as > they were before in all pretty repos (and change convention) and use Fab > layers as assembly layers (as in IPC7351) to provide users ready to use > assembly layer with

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Le 15/09/2015 08:24, Lorenzo Marcantonio a écrit : Whatever choice we make for the 'official' library *can't* satisfy everyone, there are just too many use cases/workflows... Exactly. So why change something everyone is used to ? ___ Mailing

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

W dniu 14.09.2015 o 08:41, Lorenzo Marcantonio pisze: On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 08:09:26PM -0400, Carl Poirier wrote: Could the plot values checkbox be fixed easily? Since it's a "fix" I suggest it for integration in 4.0. I'm against this modification, since it's bloat for a single use case. Me

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 05:49:16PM +0200, nnn wrote: > and lack of layers for reference designators. If values must stay on > F.Fab/B.Fab, what about adding %R (scaled, centered, outlined) on They don't *have* to stay on Fab, it's only a library convention. You can put them (almost) on any layer,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Ok but my question is if I can move values from fab to silks (hidden) as they were before in all pretty repos (and change convention) and use Fab layers as assembly layers (as in IPC7351) to provide users ready to use assembly layer with reference designators. I hoped that some discussion here

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 08:09:26PM -0400, Carl Poirier wrote: > Could the plot values checkbox be fixed easily? Since it's a "fix" I > suggest it for integration in 4.0. I'm against this modification, since it's bloat for a single use case. Multiplotting can be done with scripting, by the way.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Could the plot values checkbox be fixed easily? Since it's a "fix" I suggest it for integration in 4.0. On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:42 PM, yann jautard wrote: > > > > Le 03/09/2015 23:01, Jean-Paul Louis a écrit : > >> Hi nnn, >> >> I do not understand your point about having

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

I don't want remove refdes from silkscreen - just add a copy (text %R) scaled to footprints size - this layer really helps when you need to find component from schematic on a pcb (if you don't have computer with your design in a lab). W dniu 03.09.2015 o 21:25, Andy Peters pisze: On Sep 3,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

I don't see any reason why values on *.Fab shouldn't exceed the size of the package. Also, printing values on the silkscreen is something that is only ever done by a small handful of hobbyists. When was the last time you saw a real PCB with values on the silk? It looks ugly and serves little

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

The reason why values shouldn't exceed outline is that if they will they may overlap with others and it's additional work to set proper sizes and positions of them. Instead I suggest making something like the ipc assembly outline - refdes in outline, simple to prepare layer that you can print,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:06 AM, nnn wrote: > > Some time ago after short discussion on librarians mailing list it was > decided to change default reference and value fields of footprints and move > values to F.Fab layer. > I think it was bad decision. I'm asking here to get more

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Le 03/09/2015 23:01, Jean-Paul Louis a écrit : Hi nnn, I do not understand your point about having values on the PCB. NOBODY in the industry put values on the PCB. I disagree, I have a few examples of recent industrial boards with values on them. Last one I've seen is an inverter

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Hi nnn, I do not understand your point about having values on the PCB. NOBODY in the industry put values on the PCB. To facilitate the assembly, a lot of companies I worked for used a FAB drawing with one inch grid, and then generate a list of parts with the location on the grid. That’s more

Re: [Kicad-developers] Can I move values in footprints library back to silkscreen?

Ok, so lets leave the values. The main reason I don't want them on F.Fab is that F.Fab could be used for the ipc assembly. Even if kicad allows generating list of parts locations and it's possible to localize them without well silkscreen I still believe it's very convenient to have the drawing