[kicad-users] How do I add a Componet example a MCU

[fictish2000]

Hi all

Is their a good help to show you how to add a component

I like videos my self

with out this option in KitCad its extremely limited
and some how we have to create a better library system
the range of components is enormous

FreePCB I have found much easier to get going, but I use KiCad to print the 
freepcb file out with. simply because I cannot create new components easily in 
kitCad. And the wizard in freepcb is a good idea too.

Lex

Re: [kicad-users] Re: components power supply when several power supplies

[Andy Eskelson]

Have you tried making invisible pins visiable with the show hidden pins
icon Left hand side second from bottom) making the fewer power connection
manually, then hiding the pins again ?

I've never tried this, so I can't say if it will work, but perhaps worth
a try.


Andy




On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:58:10 +0100
"Stephrac74"  wrote:

> Yeah,
> 
>  
> 
> This was I had in mind, but I wanted to know if there could have a way
> without duplicating the concerned parts in lib.
> 
>  
> 
> I think this is a limitation to get the power pin invisibles. This doesn’t
> allow you to wire them on different voltages like I need there for switched
> or permanent 5V…
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Regards
> 
> Stephane
> 
> www.hamradio-experiments.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> De : kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] De la
> part de istvan
> Envoyé : mardi 5 janvier 2010 01:37
> À : kicad-users@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : [kicad-users] Re: components power supply when several power
> supplies
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com  ,
> "Stephrac74"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > My design has two 5V power supplies. One is permanent and the other is
> > switched for low consumption.
> > 
> > Some components (most?) in library have their power pins invisible and
> > attached to a net (VCC or VDD for instance)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is there an other solution than making the modification on each component
> to
> > put the power pins visible in order to wire some components on my switched
> > +5V and some other on my permanent +5V ?
> 
> Hi!
> copy this components your library, and modify power pins visible.
> modify the original lib not recommended.
> create +5Vsw power component, and connect power pin.
> if modify power lib, save it... (if reinstall kicad, restore it)
> 
> -- 
> Pipi
> http://www.puzsar.hu
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [kicad-users] Re: Convert to kicad from UltraLibrarian outputs

[al davis]

On Friday 01 January 2010, Frank wrote:
> Accelerated Designs has a reasonably priced tool
> for creating a footprint library with a neutral database, a
>  library manager with revision control,

"reasonably priced" ??  not really.

In this context, we need GPL.

There's a need for something like this licensed GPL.  As a 
minimum, it should support Kicad and gEDA in a neutral manner.  
Being able to migrate from (and to) the commercial packages is 
good too.

If the GPL one uses the same neutral format as a commercial 
product, that's ok.  A format isn't really neutral if it is only 
commercial.


I have another idea for netlists, but you are talking symbols 
here.

[kicad-users] Re: Convert to kicad from UltraLibrarian outputs

[funwpics]

I am thinking like you that supporting an open format has a lot of potential. 
While the developers may be off "re-inventing the wheel" we all owe them a lot 
of gratitude for the work they have done, and to those like yourself who are 
willing to share freely when they can. Do the developers monitor this board?

dp

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "Frank"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "profittd@"  wrote:
> > See UltraLibrarianHelp/BReader.html 
> > Dose anyone know of a conversion
> > utility (to kicad) for one of these formats?
> Netlist formats?
> > 
> > Accel 15 / PCAD 2XXX
> > Cadence Allegro (all versions) 
>   one of my favorites because it includes footprint references!
>   which KiCad supports, if I'm recalling correctly.
> > ...
> > PowerPCB / PowerLogic 4 (or newer)
> >
> I have code for a UltraLibrarian ASCII format code parser as a
> start of a converter to KiCad which I can share to an developer
> who would be interested in taking this forward.  Which would
> import more than just a netlist. This format is a good candidate
> for a KiCad Native Library format, but the KiCad Developers are off
> re-inventing the wheel.
> 
> UltraLibrarian (http://www.accelerated-designs.com)
> has an agreement with National to use the binary version of the
> Vender Netral file (VNF) on there web site to download a 
> symbol/footprint for their parts. http://www.national.com/cad/ 
> where you can also give the demo Ultra-librarian version a spin.
> Other part vendors may follow Nationals lead. I find this would
> be a good alternative to what is typically found (an OrCad
> schematic symbol and the user is required to find or construct
> a footprint)
> 
> Frank Frank, Accelerated Designs has a reasonably priced tool
> for creating a footprint library with a neutral database, a library
> manager with revision control, edit symbols/footprints entered
> once then can be exported to the PCB design package of choice. 
> This would be real handy for PCB designers that have to re-design
> boards across different EDA platforms, adding new parts, 
> referencing/designing/importing symbols, footprints as their 
> primary design function, doing that one time.
> 
> Frank Frank's provide a document of the ASCII Library version
> and using his software allows the binary parts from a vendor's 
> site to be imported, then exported as ASCII from his database. 
> He mentions his database follows an IPC-7351 standard for 
> footprint quality.
> 
> I mention this primarily as references for ideas. The world got
> into this mess from the history that schematic and PCB lay packages 
> originated from separate proprietary binary sources.
> 
> Frank Bennett
>

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Some questions from a new user.

[Andy Eskelson]

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:30:23 -
I use SUSE 11.1 and the Kicad tarball
kicad-2009-02-16-final-CENTOS_4.4.tgz

The main site is:
http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/kicad/index.html

Downloads are here:
ftp://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/


Note that these are binaries, and do not need compiling, just a quick
copy into  /use/local/

Do note the need to do the chmod on the binary directory - see the
install.txt file.


As for the printing, best  can suggest is to print it as a postscript
file then let something like Evince do the printing for you. That way you
can force the printing to fit the page.

Andy



"foobar.foobar"  wrote:

> Hi Andy, thanks for your comments. I have been using the User Size option but 
> this causes my printer driver to notice I am using a custom size, it would be 
> nice to have a straight forward Landscape/Portrait option so when you print 
> the printer detects it properly but no matter! As for the problems I am 
> having with the text I have realised now (after installing kiCad on my 
> friends windows machine) that the linux and windows versions have some 
> differences. E.g. the version I am using does not have the rotate option when 
> you right click a field like it does in the windows version...which explains 
> why I could not find it. I reckon my repositories are out of date. I will 
> compile from source later and make sure I have the latest version. Thanks for 
> your help.
> 
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Eskelson  wrote:
> >
> > I've never seen a rotate page option, but then again I've never needed
> > one. If you really want to use different page sizes, there is a user
> > option you can set to whatever page size you like. (right at the bottom
> > of the list)
> > 
> > Many libs you find are conversions from other packages such as eagle,
> > and the conversion process sometimes does not work as well as you would
> > expect. best to try and find a dedicated kicad or kicad tested part.
> > Better yet learn how to draw your own parts. :-) (it's easy and is
> > something you will be doing a lot of as you get into the process a bit
> > more) However you have missed a fairly basic point, there is nothing
> > special about the parts, they are just an outline. So any device with the
> > same pin arrangement will do. In this case the good old 741 will do the
> > job. Just edit the name to be your LM307
> > 
> > (Grabbing the nearest compatiable device and tweaking it to fit your needs
> > is a fairly common method of working...)
> > 
> > The way to do this is to edit the LM741 in the lib editor, change the
> > value field (which is the name) the LM319 Then save the part again.
> > 
> > You may have see several warnings about not saving to the default libs,
> > so make sure that you create your own libs and mods in your home
> > directory and save things to there just in case. You will have to add
> > these libs to your project, but that's easy enough.
> > 
> > The pin labels and such like are all accessible from the right click
> > context menu. You can also rotate and position via the keyboard as well.
> > 
> > 
> > Text fields (light blue) can be edited, moved and rotated directly.
> > Place the mouse over the field, right click and select the rotate, move
> > edit or whatever you need. The pin numbers are fixed, but you can change
> > some options within the lib editor as to their position.  
> > 
> > 
> > Do take the time to run through the tutorial a few times. Nothing is
> > really hard, but like many things, Kicad does have it's quirks and a bit
> > of practice is needed to get used to it.
> > 
> > Note thet the tutorial is a bit old now, but it still serves it's purpose.
> > 
> > There is also much more extensive help available under the help menu in
> > each of the parts of kicad, Eeschems, pcbNew, etc. this brings up pdf
> > documents, which live in the docs directory under kicad. You can access
> > them directly if you prefer.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:25:47 -
> > "foobar.foobar"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I have started using KiCAD (on Linux and I have a few questions I cant 
> > > find answers for on the Wiki or in the help file.
> > > 
> > > First up, in the schematic editor in the page settings dialog where you 
> > > can select your page size, I can't see an option for changing the page 
> > > orientation to portrait. Does this option not exist or is it somewhere 
> > > else?
> > > 
> > > Secondly, I am making an analog synth VCO and noticed none of the 
> > > components I was using was in the standard libraries. Searching google 
> > > lead me to this site: http://www.kicadlib.org/ I then searched for a 
> > > component e.g. LM307N which then lead me to this file:  
> > > http://www.reniemarquet.cjb.net/oshec/egl_libs4.zip. Inside the archive 
> > > the "linear" package had the component I wanted in it which is fine.
> > > 
> > > However, the components in that library don't dis

RE: [kicad-users] getting started with kicad

[juliorz]

   There is a tutorial distributed with KICAD, I believe that it is in the
DOC directory.

 

Also there are many video tutorials that people have created on YouTube.

 

 

 

  _  

From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of puppala
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:17 AM
To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [kicad-users] getting started with kicad

 

  

iam a new user of the kicad.so i want information how to start with kicad.is
there any examples exist to know more about kicad

[kicad-users] Re: Some questions from a new user.

[foobar.foobar]

Hi Andy, thanks for your comments. I have been using the User Size option but 
this causes my printer driver to notice I am using a custom size, it would be 
nice to have a straight forward Landscape/Portrait option so when you print the 
printer detects it properly but no matter! As for the problems I am having with 
the text I have realised now (after installing kiCad on my friends windows 
machine) that the linux and windows versions have some differences. E.g. the 
version I am using does not have the rotate option when you right click a field 
like it does in the windows version...which explains why I could not find it. I 
reckon my repositories are out of date. I will compile from source later and 
make sure I have the latest version. Thanks for your help.

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Eskelson  wrote:
>
> I've never seen a rotate page option, but then again I've never needed
> one. If you really want to use different page sizes, there is a user
> option you can set to whatever page size you like. (right at the bottom
> of the list)
> 
> Many libs you find are conversions from other packages such as eagle,
> and the conversion process sometimes does not work as well as you would
> expect. best to try and find a dedicated kicad or kicad tested part.
> Better yet learn how to draw your own parts. :-) (it's easy and is
> something you will be doing a lot of as you get into the process a bit
> more) However you have missed a fairly basic point, there is nothing
> special about the parts, they are just an outline. So any device with the
> same pin arrangement will do. In this case the good old 741 will do the
> job. Just edit the name to be your LM307
> 
> (Grabbing the nearest compatiable device and tweaking it to fit your needs
> is a fairly common method of working...)
> 
> The way to do this is to edit the LM741 in the lib editor, change the
> value field (which is the name) the LM319 Then save the part again.
> 
> You may have see several warnings about not saving to the default libs,
> so make sure that you create your own libs and mods in your home
> directory and save things to there just in case. You will have to add
> these libs to your project, but that's easy enough.
> 
> The pin labels and such like are all accessible from the right click
> context menu. You can also rotate and position via the keyboard as well.
> 
> 
> Text fields (light blue) can be edited, moved and rotated directly.
> Place the mouse over the field, right click and select the rotate, move
> edit or whatever you need. The pin numbers are fixed, but you can change
> some options within the lib editor as to their position.  
> 
> 
> Do take the time to run through the tutorial a few times. Nothing is
> really hard, but like many things, Kicad does have it's quirks and a bit
> of practice is needed to get used to it.
> 
> Note thet the tutorial is a bit old now, but it still serves it's purpose.
> 
> There is also much more extensive help available under the help menu in
> each of the parts of kicad, Eeschems, pcbNew, etc. this brings up pdf
> documents, which live in the docs directory under kicad. You can access
> them directly if you prefer.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:25:47 -
> "foobar.foobar"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have started using KiCAD (on Linux and I have a few questions I cant find 
> > answers for on the Wiki or in the help file.
> > 
> > First up, in the schematic editor in the page settings dialog where you can 
> > select your page size, I can't see an option for changing the page 
> > orientation to portrait. Does this option not exist or is it somewhere else?
> > 
> > Secondly, I am making an analog synth VCO and noticed none of the 
> > components I was using was in the standard libraries. Searching google lead 
> > me to this site: http://www.kicadlib.org/ I then searched for a component 
> > e.g. LM307N which then lead me to this file:
> > http://www.reniemarquet.cjb.net/oshec/egl_libs4.zip. Inside the archive the 
> > "linear" package had the component I wanted in it which is fine.
> > 
> > However, the components in that library don't display properly, or rather 
> > the text that is the "Pin Name" of each pin overlap each other (this is in 
> > the schematic editor) so you cant really read any of the pin labels as they 
> > are "on top of each other". So I then started trying to edit the components 
> > in the component editor and I can't seem to find a way of "positioning" the 
> > blue/greenish text that is the "Pin Name" text, it just seems to put them 
> > at the end of the pin. If you don't understand what I am on about I can 
> > take a screenshot. 
> > 
> > So... has anyone else needed these old op-amp components and knows a better 
> > library where the components are better designed (for use in the schematic 
> > editor) or is there actually a way of positioning the "Pin Name" text to 
> > where you want instead of it doing it itself a

RE: [kicad-users] Re: components power supply when several power supplies

[Stephrac74]

Yeah,

 

This was I had in mind, but I wanted to know if there could have a way
without duplicating the concerned parts in lib.

 

I think this is a limitation to get the power pin invisibles. This doesn’t
allow you to wire them on different voltages like I need there for switched
or permanent 5V…

 

 

Thanks

Regards

Stephane

www.hamradio-experiments.com

 

 

De : kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] De la
part de istvan
Envoyé : mardi 5 janvier 2010 01:37
À : kicad-users@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [kicad-users] Re: components power supply when several power
supplies

 

  



--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com  ,
"Stephrac74"  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> My design has two 5V power supplies. One is permanent and the other is
> switched for low consumption.
> 
> Some components (most?) in library have their power pins invisible and
> attached to a net (VCC or VDD for instance)
> 
> 
> 
> Is there an other solution than making the modification on each component
to
> put the power pins visible in order to wire some components on my switched
> +5V and some other on my permanent +5V ?

Hi!
copy this components your library, and modify power pins visible.
modify the original lib not recommended.
create +5Vsw power component, and connect power pin.
if modify power lib, save it... (if reinstall kicad, restore it)

-- 
Pipi
http://www.puzsar.hu



 


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[kicad-users] Re:My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the ou

[robert]

--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "josh_eeg"  wrote:
>
> if I output to other things instead of to pdf the text looses periods would 
> you sugjest checking the make letters vectors button or something? I would 
> like to make them .gif files because they can be shown on a webpage in the 
> browser. 

Do you mean e.g.

"text, text. text:" is turned to "text text text" ?

That would be strange. When exporting to pdf I always have the text replaced by 
vectors. Even if I export to PNG in Inkscape I can't reproduce that problem 
here.

> 
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, madworm_de.yahoo@ wrote:
> >
> > I usually do it like this:
> > 
> > 1. Plot SVG: "pen width mini 0.010", "Color", "Print Frame Ref"
> > 2. load with Inkscape
> > 3. save as PDF
> > 
> > This creates really good quality pdf files.
> >
>

Re: [kicad-users] getting started with kicad

[yukku yukkoooooo]

Puppala,
I also installed kicad recently and found a tutorial.pdf in the 
installation directory (KiCad\doc\tutorial\en\KiCad Tutorial.pdf) which though 
slightly outdated is quite useful. Follow the tutorial and also read the help 
.pdf files which are quite informative.

yukku





From: puppala 
To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 2:47:17 PM
Subject: [kicad-users] getting started with kicad

   
iam a new user of the kicad.so i want information how to start with kicad.is 
there any examples exist to know more about kicad


 


  

[kicad-users] getting started with kicad

[puppala]

iam a new user of the kicad.so i want information how to start with kicad.is 
there any examples exist to know more about kicad