KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD (again...)

I said this before but I don't mind stating this again. There are full plans on the KR out there on peer to peer sites. They are very close to what I received when I bought my plans the right way. The one that I saw was complete enough for a builder to build a plane with very little problems.

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

I don't know about the rest of you but my serial # on my KR did not mach the plans and no one asked. --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Mark wrote: From: Mark Subject: RE: KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD To: "'KRnet'" List-Post:

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

That was the basis for my comment about the insurance... if you insure a "KR" there is history and it will be reflected in the rate you pay... if it is a Smith 22, guess what, the insurance company has never heard of it; expect to pay major premium dollars (even though experimentals are pretty

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

And along that same line, I don't think you have to use the serial number on the plans to register your plane Experimental. You don't even have to call a KR2 a KR2.. You can call it a Smith 22 if you wanted to. And, who is going to check the serial number when you register the plane; call

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

Along the same line... registered plans have a serial number associated with them; it would be kind of hard to get an airworthiness certificate (even experimental) if "your" serial number duplicated another; otherwise it is just a "personally designed" experimental (insure THAT rip-off man!) Mark

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD (again...)

You might want to look at what is there... the KR is not the only set of plans on the CD: are they all in 'the public domain' as the sales pitch says? Probably not. Patents expire in 17 years; copy rights on the death of the author (unless you are Disney or other 'owning' corporate entity... don't

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD (again...)

The last time this happened, Ebay removed the listing immediately and also dropped the seller account. IMO "no action" is not an option. Stealing is stealing. Look what happened to the liquid cooled heads for the VW that Great Plains used to sell. The patent holder got scared that some company

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

> > .As for ebay, how do they know who the actual or > intellectual owner? > By filling out the NOCI form on this page. http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/tp/vero-rights-owner.html -- Darren Crompton AUSTRALIA My web site: www.kr-2s.com

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

Russian's have all the pages of Designer Bob Barrows 'Bearhawk' Plans up on a Website Dam internet ;-) .As for ebay, how do they know who the actual or intellectual owner? --- We have successfully had these rip off artists removed from eBay before. I

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

We have successfully had these rip off artists removed from eBay before. I was even able to have a Russian web site put out of business but only because they used a US company to process their financial transactions. I notified the US clearance house and quickly had their means of income

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

These are simply plans on CD. I've never known a builder to build a plane from them. However, I do know lots of builders that have lots of plans sitting on the shelf from which they will never build a plane. They just wanted to see a preview of the plans while deciding what to build. Buying

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

We can report this person to eBay but it most likely won't do any good since eBay has a policy that it has to be the copyright holder with proof who reports the fraud before they will remove the auction. But if enough people write to eBay and the eBay seller he might remove his auction. The

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD

At 04:45 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: >We do not have >to support him and most wont,but the fact is ebay really won't be able to do >anything to him because there is no real proof about who done the plans to >start with. >Bob Glidden + Even

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD (again...)

another bozo is ripping off Jeannette. John Let me make it clear to you up front I agree with you totally about what he is doing,but with that said there is nothing that can be done about it. Yes he is selling her plans,but there is not much of the plane that is actually not already been

KR> EBay Fraudulent KR2S Plans DVD (again...)

If you want to speak up, another bozo is ripping off Jeannette. I posted a "theft of intellectual property" notice with EBay. You may want to do the same. Item number: 150328872126 Keep building. John Bouyea KR2 - Hillsboro, OR