KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Jeff Scott
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KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
Lets see stand on bracks to hard and fall on nose, Pull on cable,cable brakes one side ground loop. Oscar Zuniga wrote: Might as well throw out another idea here, for those who like to think outside the box. Personally, I've never liked the hydraulic fluid, lines,

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
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KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Jeff Scott wrote: > If your Cleveland brakes won't hold your KR at full throttle, then you > have a problem with your brake lines or master cylinders. The typical > problem is the use of 1/4 plastic lines in the brake system, which > expand significantly under pressure and significantly reduce

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
> Reading this, one might suspect that you mean 1/4" isn't large enough, but > you mean they are too large. Wait a minute. I don't think that makes any sense! What you meant was that plastic was the problem, I suspect, not that it was too big. Mine are 3/16", and work fine except for full

KR> Hydraulic brakes, Plastic lines Vs Metal Lines

2008-10-12 Thread Larry H.
Personally, I prefer aluminum tubing brake lines, or steel. Steel brake lines are very light weight and can usually be found at some auto supply stores and for sure at companies that make custom hydraulic hose lines. Lots of steel hydraulic lines are used on tractors and many different kinds of

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Pete Klapp
der Canton, Ohio From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Subject: Re: KR> Hydraulic brakes List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:37:37 -0600 > Reading this, o

KR> Hydraulic brakes, Plastic lines Vs Metal Lines

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Arbogast, CISSP
I will only use steel lines, 3/16 should be fine. Why using anything that may cause problems. Steel has stood the test of time. In point of fact, on anything that goes down the street, it is criminal to use anything but double flared steel lines !! ( i.e. no plastic, aluminum, copped, etc.)

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Linda Warner
You say to avoid the plastic lines.. Hi Pete. I was born in Canton and raised near there in Magnolia. Live in Naples Fl. now, but get up there in Aug.-Sept after Oshkosh. Contact me offline. I'd like to meet you. John Sickafoose jas...@wbtv.net

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Linda Warner
For Pete Klapp Sorry, that should have been: jas...@webtv.net John -Original Message- From: Linda Warner Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:32 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Hydraulic brakes You say to avoid the plastic lines.. Hi Pete. I was born in Canton and rai

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Myron (Dan) Freeman
Hi guy's; I've been researching hydraulic brakes for the KR to use with the Diehl gear legs. I searched the archives, not much help except brand names and it looks like Ken Brock is out of business so I guess that leaves Cleveland and Matco and as I recall most of you are using 5" wheels and

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread rahu...@peoplepc.com
. Rick Human Houston, Texas - Original Message - From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman" <mfreem...@indy.rr.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: KR> Hydraulic brakes > Hi guy's; > > I've been researching hydra

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread e.j.pi...@att.net
Check out Tracy O'brian KR brake and axle setup, that is what I went with. They work just like the ones on our F-16's at work -- Eric Pitts Terre Haute, Indiana KR2S -- Original message -- From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman" > Hi guy's; > > I've

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Pete Diffey
Hi Myron, I am unsure what you are building, I would be very nervous about having hydraulic disk brakes on a tail dragger. I previously flew a Luton Minor which was significantly longer than a KR, and the wheels were further forward. I had pretty weak cable operated drum brakes, but I could

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Myron (Dan) Freeman
Hi Pete; Well, I need to know these things. What I'm doing is a rebuild of my own KR-2 because I think (hope) I can make it better (I've learn a lot since I built it). I have been using mechanical disk brakes all along but thought I might be better off with hydraulics. Perhaps what I really

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
Sorry, but you will find that most of the conventional gear KRs flying today have hydraulic disk brakes. I can use them to slow down, when the tail is still up. I cannot see why you would use anything else. If you are concerned about them holding to well, I cannot hold my KR in place with 3200

FW: Re: KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread parley byington
gear. I hope this information it is of some use. FYI Parley Byington byington1...@earthlink.net (N54PB) KR-2 Henderson NV > [Original Message] > From: Pete Diffey <pe...@heroic.co.uk> > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Date: 1/21/2007 3:45:16 PM > Subject: Re: KR>

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Myron (Dan) Freeman
Parley; Yes, I had the R/R drum brakes at first but I never used them. I still have them, new, in a box somewhere. I went with mechanical disc brakes instead but their not the quality of the hydraulics that I've seen. I was hoping that hydraulic brakes would overcome the poor linkage problem

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Colin Rainey
Yes, I had the R/R drum brakes at first but I never used them. Myron (Dan) Freeman I am unsure what you are building, I would be very nervous about having hydraulic disk brakes on a tail dragger. Pete Diffey Gentlemen, One reason to NOT use drum brakes is that they are OLD TECHNOLOGY! Drums react

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Dave Arbogast, CISSP
The only tail dragger I've flown with drum brakes was a B-17 and they were not about to let me do any ground ops because, among other reasons, the brakes are not that reliable. I got a set of disk brakes from an Aerocoupe. Just a little bigger than our plane needs, but they fit just fine.

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
I have had hydraulic brakes on the last three KR s and have not had a problem. No one says you have to push real hard. Pete Diffey wrote: Hi Myron, I am unsure what you are building, I would be very nervous about having hydraulic disk brakes on a tail dragger. I

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Myron (Dan) Freeman
You know, I just re-read my earlier post and I did say mechanical "DRUM" brakes. I ment to say mechanical "DISC" brakes is what I now have, sorry. Anyway, I think what I'm trying to do is come up with a shopping list for new builders (and myself) to help them quickly through the process of

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Pete Diffey
Hi Myron, what Colin says is partly true. He is right of course hydraulic disk brakes are better for stopping, and they do tend to fade less under heavy use, but KR2 brakes should not get hot so fade and wear are not an issue. I would dispute what is said about warping, I have never in 40

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Oscar Zuniga
Might as well throw out another idea here, for those who like to think outside the box. Personally, I've never liked the hydraulic fluid, lines, master cylinders, bleeding, and all that mess. However, there is no denying the beauty of disk brakes. So, how about mechanical disk brakes? These

KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
> In my opinion, brakes on a KR are safe for use in taxiing and not much > more, so cable drums are a safer option. On a field as short as mine, if I didn't use brakes, I'd run off the end of the runway every single time. As was mentioned, it's just a matter of balancing back pressure on the