KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Dan Heath wrote: > This got me wondering, so I went to my W Spread sheet to check. From full > to 45 min reserve, mine moves .856" aft. Header tank only, 12 gallons. Now > that does not jive with Marks numbers, but that is what my spread sheet says > from 12 to 3 gallons. Dan, you made me

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
;Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 22:31 Subject: Re: KR> header tanks > "Keeping the header tank"...yes, as long as you also have wing tanks or a > fuselage fuel cell like Bill mentioned. Header tank ONLY, I'd vote no.

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Larry Flesner
At 10:53 PM 1/7/2007, you wrote: >the wing >tank vents will be plumbed to enter the header tank at about the full level. >Only the header tank will be vented to atmosphere. That way any overflow >will be sucked down the wing tank breather to return to the wing tanks. >I am considdering running the

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
You can't return down the vent tubes. There is no place for the traped air to go. --- Larry Flesner wrote: > At 10:53 PM 1/7/2007, you wrote: > >the wing > >tank vents will be plumbed to enter the header tank > at about the full level. > >Only the header tank will be vented

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Larry Flesner
>You can't return down the vent tubes. There is no >place for the traped air to go. Randy Smith ++ For more than you probably want to know about the Ercoupe fuel system, check out: http://www.ercoupe.net/ads/55_22_02.html Doesn't look all that

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
assembler See: www.whisperaircraft.com mailto: av...@telkomsa.net - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 23:16 Subject: Re: KR> header tanks > This got me wondering, so I went to my W Sprea

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
Well, I don't think the computer knows much about the shape of my tank, and the numbers are only calculated numbers. I did weigh it with no fuel and with full fuel to get the calculated moment (station) of the fuel. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2007

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
Larry wrote: > Test to insure that the return to the wing tanks flow is equal to that being > pumped to the header tank or the difference will be pumped out the > header tank vent. You will be pressure pumping one direction and > gravity feed back from basically an open tank (it is vented). Not

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Larry Flesner
At 02:22 PM 1/10/2007, AVLEC wrote: >Therefore the fuel returning to the wing tanks >down the wing tank vent lines is actually being sucked down and not running >under gravity feed. >Dene Collett + Dene, As long as the return lines are not

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
What would be the best way to install/fit a Summit tank?? Chris Johnston North Richmond NSW Australia. - Original Message - From: "william Clapp" <ifly...@yahoo.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:14 AM Subject: Re: KR

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread william Clapp
My preference on my Corvair KR2S is to run the header because of my gravity feed carb - Gravity is pretty dependable - I think it is more reliable than a fuel pump (no reported incidents of loss of gravity other than with some assossiated UFO sightings) I have a 13 gallon header and 10 gallons

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
know. Thanks guys. Regards Dene Collett KR2SRT builder South africa Whisper assembler See: www.whisperaircraft.com mailto: av...@telkomsa.net - Original Message - From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@verizon.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, January 05

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Dene Collett wrote: > Thanks Mark J, Larry F & Bill C for the info concerning header tanks. I took > a look at your websights and that cleared up a few things too. Bill sure > makes a good argument for keeping the header tank. "Keeping the header tank"...yes, as long as you also have wing tanks

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
You can always build a small header, leaving room for baggage and access to the instrument panel, and pump to the header from the wing tanks and have the best of both. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
This got me wondering, so I went to my W Spread sheet to check. From full to 45 min reserve, mine moves .856" aft. Header tank only, 12 gallons. Now that does not jive with Marks numbers, but that is what my spread sheet says from 12 to 3 gallons. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
- From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: Re: KR> header tanks > This got me wondering, so I went to my W Spread sheet to check. From > full > to 45 min reserve, mine moves .856" aft

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Larry Flesner
At 03:20 PM 1/7/2007, you wrote: >I may be wrong here but you calculated that with your weight as the pilot. >Try it with say a 250 lb pilot and see if that makes it move even more. Like >Mark Jones + Mark, The weight of the pilot will not

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Joe H Horton
Guys, I guess that I'm in the mood to throw my pennies into the pot here. I have the exact set up that is being talked about here and have no problem with it for low pressure or CG management. I have in fact been testing max climb angles and durations at those angles. I don't have the

KR> header tanks - >W & B shift as fuel burns off

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
With a 250 lb pilot, the shift is .862". I thought it was the other Mark and he weighs less than me. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R.

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
Hi Guys I have been thinking long and hard about the possibility of not installing my aluminum header tank and just sticking with the two outboard wing tanks. I did build the tank with its CG as close to the spar as possible. It will take about 50 litres to fill it. I would like to hear from those

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
(N886MJ) Wales, WI My Web site: http://www.flykr2s.com/ Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com -Original Message- Behalf Of Dene Collett Subject: KR> header tanks Hi Guys I have been thinking long and hard about the possibility of not installing my aluminum header tank and just sticking with the

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Larry Flesner
> >I have been thinking long and hard about the possibility of not installing >my aluminum header tank and just sticking with the two outboard wing tanks. >Dene Collett Dene, I have tanks in the outboard wing panels only, no header

KR> header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
Thanks Mark J and Larry F for the informative replies. I have only one question for Larry, If I read your post correctly, you have a gap of 10" behind the main spar and then your tank extends rearwards from there. If so can you give me the reason for the gap. No specific reason, it just seems

KR> header tanks/wing tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Larry Flesner
At 02:29 PM 1/6/2007, you wrote: >If I read your post correctly, you have a gap of 10" >behind the main spar and then your tank extends rearwards from there. >Dene Collett +++ Dene, Check the photo http://mysite.verizon.net/flesner/22.jpg

KR> Header Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread phillip matheson
Doug Said The KR2S, when built without the plans located header tank, will not have much CG shift. I forget the exact number, but mine with wing tanks shifts less than two inches from empty fuel light pilot to full fuel with heavy passengers. I think Mark Jones said his was closer to an inch

KR> Header Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
Hi Phil, The header tank is not required for balance. You can adjust the C of G = by altering the engine mount length. This is quite easy if you are = making your own engine mount or are up to modifying it. When changing = engines I did exactly that and got to within 3mm of my desired result.

KR> Header Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Jacobs
My wing tanks are from the back of the main outter spar aft 13 inches and 45 inches outwards. these hold 45 litures.( 11 US Gals) +++ Hey Phil Our gallon is like your Oz gallon, i.e. an Imperial gallon of 4.55 L. The only thing American that is not bigger than every one else's, is

KR> Header Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Jacobs
My wing tanks are from the back of the main outter spar aft 13 inches and 45 inches outwards. these hold 45 litures.( 11 US Gals) +++ Hey Phil Our gallon is like your Oz gallon, i.e. an Imperial gallon of 4.55 L. The only thing American that is not bigger than every one else's, is

KR> Header Tanks

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
You could always use spacers on the firewall to move the engine mount forward 1 or 2 inches and then you wouldn't have to modify the engine mount at all. A little W math should get you into the ballpark for spacer thickness. Denny Barry Kruyssen wrote: Hi Phil, The header

KR>header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
I have wing tanks with an electric boost punt sending to the header tank. I also have an VW engine pump and electric boost. It appears that each of these pumps will allow fuel to flow through them in the case of failure. I am wondering why I can't eliminate the vent from the header tank and

KR>header tanks

2008-10-12 Thread francis fenlason
IF I understand what you are saying. If you remove the vent from your header tank you will have an air chamber. You will not be able to fill the header tank as air pressure will build and prevent fuel from entering. The only way the air will be able to escape is through the carburetor. You may