KR> Dihedral

2018-09-17 Thread Mike Stirewalt via KRnet
As Phil in Australia suggests, a wing leveler should be a really simple thing to install. TruTrak was planning on offering an autopilot for $1000 that consisted of using high quality radio control aircraft technology. (They cancelled this idea eventually.) I think a really inexpensive and uncomp

KR> Dihedral

2010-07-01 Thread ttcse/Tom
Dihedral at bottom of wing:  3.64 deg.) / 2 = 2.925 deg.    Compares well with  "Dihedral at wing center: 2.93 deg."   Tom --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Gunnar Olsen wrote: From: Gunnar Olsen Subject: Re: KR> Dihedral To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, June 30,

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2010-07-01 Thread Oscar Zuniga
Also not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I believe what Mark is doing is replacing the "hokey" glassed-foam wing extensions with real wing extensions. Mark's wings were originally made a foot shorter than stock, and the wingtips were formed out of shaped and glassed foam with no spars.

KR> Dihedral

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Langford
You guys sure don't give me much credit! Yes, I'm bringing my wings up to stock KR2S length, so dire predictions of my demise might be premature...at least due to WAF or spar failure. Besides my spars are beefier than most anyway (for reasons I dare not go into). I said when I built my wings

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2010-06-30 Thread Fred Johnson
Not to beat a dead horse here, but one thing I think someone is missing is that though you increased the wing area, you are decreasing wing loading, and I believe that in itself would be compensate for the shear and bending moments mentioned earlier. Fred Johnson Reno, NV Dan Heath wrote I kn

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2010-06-30 Thread Dan Heath
I know this has been noted before, but I will repeat it. The Diehl wing skins are significantly longer than the stock wings, and there is no "beefing" required, and I know of NO incidents attributed to the longer wings. I have them and the wing span is 23'6". Mark, you don't have to worry. See

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2010-06-30 Thread joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
the needed repairs to the plane. Hanger rash is a terrible disease and really should be federally funded. Joe Horton -- Forwarded Message -- From: "Virgil N. Salisbury" To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Dihedral List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:53:50 -0

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2010-06-30 Thread jack.cooper2009
Peter Leonard wrote You must be careful with wing extensions as they increase the bending moment at the wing root significantly.  Also consider the extra load it will put on the wing attachment fittings. Aren't the Diehl skin wings longer than the stock plan wings? Guess I could look it

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2010-06-30 Thread jack.cooper2009
t;KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:48:16 AM Subject: RE: KR> Dihedral That is interesting.  I assumed that it I put a digital level on the stub and set it to 0, then put it on the outboard wing, it would give me the angle of dihedral.  Surprise, I got 2.  I never gave it any thought

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2010-06-30 Thread Virgil N. Salisbury
Always use the plans for determining these things. The example from the plans is correct, 5" up at the tip, Virg Mark Langford wrote: > Actually, the dihedral isn't measured from the bottom of the spar, generally > speaking. It's more of a centerline angle thing, so measuring of

KR> Dihedral

2010-06-30 Thread Virgil N. Salisbury
R R ALWAYS said not to increase the wing length. The spar is designed for just what you have, no more, Virg The Leonards wrote: > Mark > Interesting to read about your wing extensions. I am wondering what > you are doing about the extra bending moment and shear they will create

KR> Dihedral

2010-06-30 Thread Gunnar Olsen
KR2 standard wing with RAF48 airfoil. Dihedral at bottom of wing: 3.64 deg. Dihedral at wing chord: 3.05 deg. Dihedral at wing center: 2.93 deg. Dihedral at top of wing: 2.21 deg. ;o) Gunnar On 30.06.2010 12:12, phillip matheson wrote: > What is the degree of dihedral on the KR2? > > > Dan pag

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2010-06-30 Thread Mark Langford
Actually, the dihedral isn't measured from the bottom of the spar, generally speaking. It's more of a centerline angle thing, so measuring off the bottom of the spar isn't an accurate representation of the "real" dihedral. The real dihedral isn't even as high as 3.7 degrees...it's a little low

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2010-06-30 Thread The Leonards
d Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: krnet-bounces+pamks=bigpond.net...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+pamks=bigpond.net...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2010 1:33 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Dihedral OK, I dug out the plans, and the outboard spa

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2010-06-30 Thread phillip matheson
What is the degree of dihedral on the KR2? Dan page 26 ( Jan 90 Blue book) Drawing No21- with spars on a flat table 5 Inches above the table with the tip of the bottom spar Phil Matheson SAAA Ch 37 http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/

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2010-06-30 Thread Dan Heath
That is interesting. I assumed that it I put a digital level on the stub and set it to 0, then put it on the outboard wing, it would give me the angle of dihedral. Surprise, I got 2. I never gave it any thought, since it had already been set when I started on the project. No wonder, I wander al

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2010-06-29 Thread Mark Langford
OK, I dug out the plans, and the outboard spar is 78" long rather than 79" (what was I thinking), so it's actually 3.7 degrees rather than 3.8. I killed another day of vacation working the stub to outboard wing gaps again. One thing I've learned in the last three weeks is that it feels like

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2010-06-29 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 09:30 PM 6/29/2010, you wrote: >which is 3.6 degrees. >That's not enough, in my humble opinion, at least not based on my >"wanderings" in my KR2S. I'll build my next one to 5 degrees of dihedral... Your next one? And

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2010-06-29 Thread Virgil N. Salisbury
I think it was 5 Deg, Virg Dan Heath wrote: > What is the degree of dihedral on the KR2? I see how it is set in the > plans, but don't see the degrees documented anywhere. I could figure it, > but my math is rusty. > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > da...@windstream.net > > See N64KR at

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2010-06-29 Thread Mark Langford
Dan Heath wrote: > What is the degree of dihedral on the KR2? I see how it is set in the > plans, but don't see the degrees documented anywhere. I could figure it, > but my math is rusty. It's just the inverse tangent of the "rise over the run". Without looking at the plans, and running on me

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2010-06-29 Thread Dan Heath
What is the degree of dihedral on the KR2? I see how it is set in the plans, but don't see the degrees documented anywhere. I could figure it, but my math is rusty. Daniel R. Heath da...@windstream.net See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See

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2008-10-12 Thread Dene Collett (SA)
Hi Again guys Can someone tell me what the dihedral angle is from the horizontal. I know you set it up with 5" blocks at the tip but I am using the 5048-5045 combination which means the wing will be a slightly different thickness at same span. I need the angle formed by a line drawn spanwise down t

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2008-10-12 Thread StRaNgEdAyS
t.net - Original Message - From: "Dene Collett (SA)" To: "krnet" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:09 AM Subject: KR> dihedral > Hi Again guys > Can someone tell me what the dihedral angle is from the horizontal. I know > you set it up with 5" bloc

KR>Dihedral angle from centerlines.

2008-10-12 Thread Steve and Lori McGee
For those that are interested. The diehedral works out to extremely close to 3 degrees on centerlines of the spars. Tried to find this in the archive and did not. Because the KR2 plans and the S plans have different dimensions on the end of the wood spar, it works out a little different, but

KR>Dihedral angle from centerlines.

2008-10-12 Thread Phillip Matheson
For those that are interested. The diehedral works out to extremely close to 3 degrees on centerlines of the spars. Just something slightly different The Dan Diehl video and instructions say to sit two 3 1/2inch blocks on the top of each in

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
Mark, Is ther any doco and/or photos of Dan's gear legs. Barry Kruyssen k...@bigpond.com AUF Registered 19-3873 - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: KR>Dihedral Qu

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread Scott Cable
Gavin & Colin, Colin is correct about starting the Dihedral at BL0.0 as opposed to starting the dihedral somewhere outboard. I'm not a loads engineer, but I did a "sanity " check with one here at work. Here are some issues that you may encounter by starting the dihedral at BL0.0: 1.)Kick Loads. Ho

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread Justin
. Justin - Original Message - From: "Scott Cable" To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: KR>Dihedral Question > Gavin & Colin, > Colin is correct about starting the Dihedral at BL0.0 > as opposed to starting the dihedral somewhere > outboard. &

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Scott Cable wrote: > So to answer Gavin's question, yes, there are plenty > of low wing aircraft with the dihedral starting at the > center. There are far and above many more examples of > low wing aircraft where the dihedral starts outbd of > the center, reasons for which are stated above. I do

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2008-10-12 Thread Scott Cable
The original message was subject line: Spar and glue. and was the response from Colin Rainey dated 14 Sep 2003. The intent of my message was advocating the dihedral outboard of the fuselage. --- Mark Langford wrote: > Scott Cable wrote: > > > So to answer Gavin's question, yes, there are > plent

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread William Clapp
- Original Message - From: Scott Cable To: KR builders and pilots Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: Re: KR>Dihedral Question > The original message was subject line: Spar and glue. > and was the response from Colin Rainey dated 14 Sep > 2003. The intent o

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread larry flesner
If you are considering starting the wing dihedral at the fuselage instead of the wing attach fittings as called for in the plans and are using the Diehl type gear, the wing dihedral angle will carry through to the camber of you main gear wheel. You will have to shim or modify the attach bracket

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Larry wrote: > If you are considering starting the wing dihedral at the fuselage > instead of the wing attach fittings as called for in the plans and > are using the Diehl type gear, the wing dihedral angle will carry > through to the camber of you main gear wheel. You will have > to shim or mod

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread robert glidden
ders and pilots" Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Re: KR>Dihedral Question > Larry wrote: > > > If you are considering starting the wing dihedral at the fuselage > > instead of the wing attach fittings as called for in the plans and > > are using the

KR>Dihedral Question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Bob Glidden wrote: > I have a set of the gear brackets you made up and they are great.I forget > how much exactly,but they do weigh less then the Diehl brackets...And they > look great on the taller spar... I really can't take credit for that one. That was Dr. Dean's "product". We probably got t