Re: KR> OSH Gathering - Time to Poke the Bears!

2018-06-27 Thread Flesner via KRnet

On 6/26/2018 8:14 PM, svd via KRnet wrote:


How about having the KR Gathering at AirVenture?  I would be happy to help 
organize.

Owen Hughes

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Owen,

This bear has been poked in the past but has gone back in to hibernation 
for several years now.  I'm guessing that contributes to the lack of 
response you're getting on the subject.  No hate intended.


Just as Oshkosh would not be a good place for a family gathering (nobody 
pays attention to grandma, they're all playing ball) , the group 
decision years ago was to hold a Gathering outside Oshkosh for the 
diehard KR builders.  Oshkosh arrival scares off most KR flyers and the 
event is too overwhelming to concentrate on just one thing, building and 
flying a KR aircraft.  On a good year there may be three to five KR's to 
look at and question the builder and there is the KR forum that may have 
30+ attend and ask questions of Mark Langford and other builders but 
that is just a flea on an elephant as far as KR's go.  The Gathering on 
the other hand is two to three days of concentrated exposure to KR's, 
some years as may as 20, with forums for builders and 200mph fly-bys to 
get your builder juices flowing and send you home enthused and ready to 
make sawdust.  Each event is a positive but to get the most info and 
exposure for a KR builder the Gathering is the place to be.


As for the vote, it was felt by the attendees that those making the 
effort to attend the event should be the ones to determine where the 
event will be held rather than take a vote on the net or other means.  
Seems logical to me.  This years Gathering will be my 26th or 27th in 
the same number of years and , hopefully, my fifth time to Oshkosh with 
my KR.  Each event is special but different.  For a builder the 
Gathering is the place to be and Oshkosh is icing on the cake.  
Attending both makes for a great year.


Hope to see you at both...

Larry Flesner




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Re: KR> OSH Gathering - Time to Poke the Bears!

2018-06-26 Thread Ken Hurley via KRnet
I was looking at hosting the event in 2019 at MO9, Miller, Missouri.
However I would yield to an Oshkosh event (when you host it's hard to fly
in). Meeting new KR people would be interesting.

Anyone else have any input?

Ken Hurley

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 8:14 PM svd via KRnet  wrote:

> Seems like a good time to stir the muck and get a little hate from ya all.
>
> How about having the KR Gathering at AirVenture?  I would be happy to help
> organize.
>
> Yes - AirVenture is crowded and difficult - especially to fun fly during
> the event.  But it is also a central unifying event - one which attracts
> folk from all over the world - even New Zealand!
>
> Flying in/out of OSH is a little more challenging than an deserted
> mid-west uncontrolled field - but it is remarkably easy if you can read
> (notams) and have a radio.
>
> I (and most of us I am guessing) have to prioritize our free time and can
> only really make one big airplane event a year (if that). While I would
> love to attend a KR Gathering, I can not yet justify the costs in time and
> $ in light of the many other demands.
>
> IMHO greater attendance of a OSH KR Gathering and public exposure trumps
> bucolic. In addition to a wider audience, an AirVenture KR Gathering could
> more easily draw on outside expertise and attendees could learn from the
> unparalleled gathering of resources and vendors gathered at OSH.
>
> Yes, the one or two KR’s  that show up at OSH don’t draw much interest,
> but I imagine that might be different with 10 or 20.
>
> I am aware that the “choosing” mechanism for where to “Gather” is at the
> “Gather” and not here in a publicly available venue.  But I thought I’d
> just put it out there.  If the only “vote that counts” for choosing where
> to Gather is _only_ at the gathering, then it very neatly excludes the
> concerns of anyone not at the gathering (by definition).
>
>
> All that and I am not even going to make OSH this year.  But next year I
> will work on at least a KR meet up at OSH.
>
> Cheers,
> Owen Hughes
>
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KR> OSH Gathering - Time to Poke the Bears!

2018-06-26 Thread svd via KRnet
Seems like a good time to stir the muck and get a little hate from ya all.

How about having the KR Gathering at AirVenture?  I would be happy to help 
organize.

Yes - AirVenture is crowded and difficult - especially to fun fly during the 
event.  But it is also a central unifying event - one which attracts folk from 
all over the world - even New Zealand!  

Flying in/out of OSH is a little more challenging than an deserted mid-west 
uncontrolled field - but it is remarkably easy if you can read (notams) and 
have a radio.  

I (and most of us I am guessing) have to prioritize our free time and can only 
really make one big airplane event a year (if that). While I would love to 
attend a KR Gathering, I can not yet justify the costs in time and $ in light 
of the many other demands. 

IMHO greater attendance of a OSH KR Gathering and public exposure trumps 
bucolic. In addition to a wider audience, an AirVenture KR Gathering could more 
easily draw on outside expertise and attendees could learn from the 
unparalleled gathering of resources and vendors gathered at OSH.

Yes, the one or two KR’s  that show up at OSH don’t draw much interest, but I 
imagine that might be different with 10 or 20.

I am aware that the “choosing” mechanism for where to “Gather” is at the 
“Gather” and not here in a publicly available venue.  But I thought I’d just 
put it out there.  If the only “vote that counts” for choosing where to Gather 
is _only_ at the gathering, then it very neatly excludes the concerns of anyone 
not at the gathering (by definition). 


All that and I am not even going to make OSH this year.  But next year I will 
work on at least a KR meet up at OSH.

Cheers,
Owen Hughes

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