Re: KR> grass runway
Regardless of where you fly you'll want flaps or speed brake for drag in the landing mode. With sufficient drag 2000 feet should be quite doable for landing. I suspect your takeoff roll will be equal to or exceed your landing requirement, depending on aircraft weight, obstacles, condition of turf (wet, dry, long, etc.). On my last flight I asked the tower what my stop and turn around distance was and they replied 1750 feet. That was on hard surface with a 6 mph mostly head wind and that was without extra effort and only moderate braking at the very end. My over the numbers speed is 80 mph and I wheel land. I'm heavy, 760 pounds empty, and have a 20' 8" RAF48 wing. Longer wings, less weight, and slower landing speed should cut 300 feet or more off that distance. I'd consider John's and Joe Weber's numbers closer to what you could expect. Larry Flesner ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> grass runway
Hi Ken. I fly a stock KR2 with Diehl wings, trigear, hydraulic Matco brakes and a RevMaster 2100D off our 2000x80 grass strip (OR81). I use about 800 feet to get off and about 1200 to land and roll out. We are open on one end and a road and 2000' beyond we have trees. I'm not saying everyone would be comfortable with that runway. I have been flying from this field since 1992, first in a Beech Musketeer and now also in a Cessna Cardinal. I know Joe Weber flys off a shorter strip than that. He has oversize wheels and I'm sure that helps with braking power; I think stopping power is somewhat important. With your 1835, higher base elevation and no configurable drag, 2000' would probably be marginal. You didn't mention tail or nose wheel; that matters. As does pilot weight. Just my 2 cents... -Original Message- Subject: KR> grass runway On a grass runway, what length of runway is comfortable for you to use? VW 1835cc 650 # airplane (without pilot and passenger). 1,200' altitude. No flaps or belly board (belly board can be added). SW to NE runway (N & S winds prevailing). Ken Hurley ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> grass runway
Ken Hurley wrote: > On a grass runway, what length of runway is comfortable for you to use? VW > 1835cc 650 # airplane (without pilot and passenger). 1,200' altitude. No > flaps or belly board (belly board can be added). SW to NE runway (N & S > winds prevailing). It makes me a little antsy to land on Moontown's 2100' runway, but I do it on occasion, especially touch and goes, and I used most of it. But it has clear approacheslarge grass field on one end, and a crossing road on a five foot high berm on the otherjust watch for cars! If the runway you are looking at is shorter and has has trees on one end, it becomes a one-way airport, which is somewhat hazardous with regards to winds. Mark Langford m...@n56ml.com http://www.n56ml.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org
Re: KR> grass runway
Ken you really need to factor in at least a pilot (or very clever passenger) unless you don't want the plane back. ;) sorry > 650 # airplane (without pilot and passenger). 1,200' altitude. ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org