[kvm-devel] Fedora 8 + kvm61 + Neutrino 6.3.2 == Exception 14 (0)

2008-02-26 Thread Anoosh Hosseini
I am trying to follow qemu + QNX instructions below, but using qemu-kvm. I get exception 14 (0) during boot (while printing dots, and has not got to the banner messages yet. I am using Fedora 8 + kvm61. If I disable kvm (-no-kvm) things run fine just as in standard qemu. However other Linux b

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:38:59PM +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: > Farkas Levente wrote: > > Izik Eidus wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:58 +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: > >>> Zhao, Yunfeng wrote: > Hi, all, > > This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. > > Two

Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 4/15] mark processors as presents

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Graf
On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Alexander Graf wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Glauber Costa wrote: > >> mark processors as present through the _STA method >> >> Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> --- >> bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl | 18 ++ >> 1 files changed, 18 in

Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 4/15] mark processors as presents

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Graf
On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Glauber Costa wrote: > mark processors as present through the _STA method > > Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- > bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl | 18 ++ > 1 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl

Re: [kvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] kvm-62 release

2008-02-26 Thread Jim Paris
Hi, > - add file:// migration protocol (Uri Lublin) commit 70d2a9dc3594446f3ad66b32abc94c08b74118d4 Author: Uri Lublin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu Feb 21 15:00:50 2008 +0200 kvm: qemu: migration: added file:// migration protocol Instead of writing into a file with fork+exec, jus

Re: [kvm-devel] boot stops after console handover?

2008-02-26 Thread Antoine Martin
Antoine Martin wrote: > Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 06:07:19PM +, Antoine Martin wrote: > If that doesn't work, maybe you can upload an image > for me to debug. http://194.145.196.85/kvm/vmlinuz-2.6.24-rc7.bz2 >>> Any luck? Any other ideas for

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 15/15] remove acpi_build_processor_ssdt

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/rombios32.c | 55 -- 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 55 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/rombios32.c b/bios/rombios32.c index f2db740..77e71ac 100755 --- a/bios/rombios32.c +++ b/bios/r

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 10/15] handle gpe data for pio

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
actually grab and return data, instead of just being two bogus functions. Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/hw/acpi.c | 36 1 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/qemu/hw/acpi.c b/qemu/hw/acpi.c index 119b59a.

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 14/15] start a new cpu thread

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
spin up a new cpu thread if not yet running. Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/hw/acpi.c | 16 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/qemu/hw/acpi.c b/qemu/hw/acpi.c index 5a6d1a8..e44c8b5 100644 --- a/qemu/hw/acpi.c +++ b/qemu/h

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 13/15] provide _MAT to acpi processor

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl | 154 +++- 1 files changed, 140 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl b/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl index 194a051..7dffb6d 100755 --- a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl +++

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 12/15] isolate cpu thread creation in qemu-kvm.c

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/qemu-kvm.c |9 +++-- qemu/qemu-kvm.h |1 + 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/qemu/qemu-kvm.c b/qemu/qemu-kvm.c index ffc59d5..59fe9df 100644 --- a/qemu/qemu-kvm.c +++ b/qemu/qemu-kvm.c @@ -351,6 +351

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 11/15] manipulate the gpe bits and send sci up the os.

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/hw/acpi.c | 42 ++ 1 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/qemu/hw/acpi.c b/qemu/hw/acpi.c index 7340f15..5a6d1a8 100644 --- a/qemu/hw/acpi.c +++ b/qemu/hw/acpi.c @@ -534,10

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 9/15] initialize hot add system.

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Register the pios, and grab cpu_model for future usage. Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/hw/acpi.c | 34 ++ qemu/hw/pc.c |1 + qemu/sysemu.h |1 + 3 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/qemu/hw/acpi.c b

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 7/15] implement method _L00 for GPE0

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
This corresponds to the cpu hotplug functionality Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl | 114 1 files changed, 114 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl b/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl index 1db

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 8/15] isolate cpu initialization function in hw/pc.c

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
This patch wraps up the piece of code in hw/pc.c that actually allocates and initializates a cpu. After that, plan is to be able to start it later on. Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/hw/pc.c | 40 +++- qemu/hw/pc.h |1 + 2 files

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 5/15] provide gpe _L0x methods

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
provide methods for gpe blk 0, even though they do nothing atm Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl | 51 +++ 1 files changed, 51 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl b/bios/acpi-dsdt.ds

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 6/15] provide operation region for pio to the gpes

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl |7 +++ 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl b/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl index 392d402..1dba157 100755 --- a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl +++ b/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl @@ -27,6 +27,13 @@ Definiti

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 3/15] introduce cpu_set to qemu monitor

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
in this patch, cpu_set is introduced to qemu monitor semantics is : cpu_set x online|offline. it will then tell the acpi backend to signal cpu x. Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- qemu/hw/acpi.c |4 qemu/monitor.c | 16 qemu/sysemu.h |3 +++ 3

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 4/15] mark processors as presents

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
mark processors as present through the _STA method Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl | 18 ++ 1 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl b/bios/acpi-dsdt.dsl index e900795..244e906 100755 --- a/bios/ac

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 1/15] Make a GPE register block be acessible.

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
gpe is acessible when its address listed by BIOS is !0. This patch makes gpe blk 0 available, and 4 bytes in length Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/rombios32.c |2 ++ 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/bios/rombios32.c b/bios/rombios32.c i

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 2/15] mark extra cpus as present

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Mark cpus over smp_cpus as present, but disable. The OS can then recognize it and make room for future hotplug Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- bios/rombios.h |2 ++ bios/rombios32.c | 21 + 2 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --

[kvm-devel] [PATCH 0/15] acpi processor hotplug

2008-02-26 Thread Glauber Costa
Hi, I'm resending the series with avi's few comments merged, and a couple of others on my own: * _STA returns 0xF instead of 0x1. According to the specification, it means that the device, besides present, is also functional, enabled, and a couple of other cool things. * gpe_base and proc_base

Re: [kvm-devel] [kvm-ppc-devel] [PATCH] Fix PowerPC Qemu CPU initilization when using target-ppc/fake-exec.c

2008-02-26 Thread Hollis Blanchard
Acked-by: Hollis Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Avi, please apply. -- Hollis Blanchard IBM Linux Technology Center - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://

[kvm-devel] [ kvm-Bugs-1902416 ] After upgrade to kvm 60 release 2.fc8 problem with XP image

2008-02-26 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1902416, was opened at 2008-02-26 10:40 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=893831&aid=1902416&group_id=180599 Please note that this message will contain a full copy

Re: [kvm-devel] Windows XP activation regression in KVM-60

2008-02-26 Thread Adam Majer
Pelle wrote: > I THINK this is due to the fact that kvm-60+ uses a realtek nic as > default and not the old ne2000. > You could try specifying -nic,model=ne2k_pci Yes, this is *part* of the solution. A clean install that was activated on some old KVM, had some software installed on more recent on

Re: [kvm-devel] Top level kvm-userspace directory getting crowded ... need new dir for qemu dependencies

2008-02-26 Thread Jerone Young
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 11:00 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > Jerone Young wrote: > > The top level directory of kvm-userspace is starting to get a little > > crowded as we start to bring in more external dependencies. Perhaps we > > can create a folder "tools" and move directories: > > bios > > extboot

[kvm-devel] [PATCH] Fix PowerPC Qemu CPU initilization when using target-ppc/fake-exec.c

2008-02-26 Thread Jerone Young
# HG changeset patch # User Jerone Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # Date 1204046245 21600 # Branch merge # Node ID 1980deb2bddff30c2f798d33937759a7ce91c242 # Parent e1260182b60d6d6716870c3bff82f503fad868fb Fix PowerPC Qemu CPU initilization when using target-ppc/fake-exec.c Signed-off-by: Jerone Young

Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] KVM: detect if VCPU triple faults

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Joerg Roedel wrote: > In the current inject_page_fault path KVM only checks if there is another PF > pending and injects a DF then. But it has to check for a pendig DF too to > detect a shutdown condition in the VCPU. If this is not detected the VCPU goes > to a PF -> DF -> PF loop when it should t

[kvm-devel] [PATCH] KVM: detect if VCPU triple faults

2008-02-26 Thread Joerg Roedel
In the current inject_page_fault path KVM only checks if there is another PF pending and injects a DF then. But it has to check for a pendig DF too to detect a shutdown condition in the VCPU. If this is not detected the VCPU goes to a PF -> DF -> PF loop when it should triple fault. This patch dete

Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] KVM: detect if VCPU triple faults

2008-02-26 Thread Joerg Roedel
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:02:31PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > Joerg Roedel wrote: > >In the current inject_page_fault path KVM only checks if there is another PF > >pending and injects a DF then. But it has to check for a pendig DF too to > >detect a shutdown condition in the VCPU. If this is not d

Re: [kvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] kvm-62 release

2008-02-26 Thread Haydn Solomon
Love the new high screen resolution as can now run in full screen mode with good experience. Great work! On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Avi Kivity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fixes the longstanding RHEL 5 i386 smp boot problem as well as the > recent Intel Core regression. Large page support

Re: [kvm-devel] still seeing network freezes with rtl8139 nic

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
david ahern wrote: > Usually within a few hours, sometimes within 30 minutes. > > Load averages as computed by sysstat in the nightly sar files: > > rxpck/s txpck/s rxbyt/s txbyt/s > eth0975.18 1188.34 82044.06 171655.38 > > Interrupts come in at 1830/sec for eth0, 250/sec for

[kvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] kvm-62 release

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Fixes the longstanding RHEL 5 i386 smp boot problem as well as the recent Intel Core regression. Large page support improves performance for dedicated virtualization hosts, while vmware vga and more std-vga resolutions should improve the home user experience. Changes from kvm-61: - fix oops ru

Re: [kvm-devel] still seeing network freezes with rtl8139 nic

2008-02-26 Thread david ahern
I noted in my original post that if I increase the weight parameter in the driver to have it pull more packets on each poll before taking it break then it takes longer to freeze. I have looked at a newer version of the 8139cp driver. Very few changes to the poll function; most of them seem to be a

Re: [kvm-devel] still seeing network freezes with rtl8139 nic

2008-02-26 Thread david ahern
Usually within a few hours, sometimes within 30 minutes. Load averages as computed by sysstat in the nightly sar files: rxpck/s txpck/s rxbyt/s txbyt/s eth0975.18 1188.34 82044.06 171655.38 Interrupts come in at 1830/sec for eth0, 250/sec for the timer and 20/sec or ide0.

Re: [kvm-devel] still seeing network freezes with rtl8139 nic

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Avi Kivity wrote: > david ahern wrote: >> Almost 7 hours and the uniprocessor case is still chugging along. >> >> > > How long does it usually take to hang? > > How do I go about reproducing this? apachebench (host) against httpd > (guest) doesn't seem to trigger it. > ab (on host) against htt

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Farkas Levente
Farkas Levente wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: >> On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:58 +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: >>> Zhao, Yunfeng wrote: Hi, all, This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. Two old issues fixed: 1. fc5/fc6/rhel5u1 no-acpi up guests can't boot on pae hos

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Farkas Levente
Izik Eidus wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:58 +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: >> Zhao, Yunfeng wrote: >>> Hi, all, >>> >>> This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. >>> >>> Two old issues fixed: >>> 1. fc5/fc6/rhel5u1 no-acpi up guests can't boot on pae host >>> https://sourceforge.net/tr

Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] KVM: detect if VCPU triple faults

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Joerg Roedel wrote: > In the current inject_page_fault path KVM only checks if there is another PF > pending and injects a DF then. But it has to check for a pendig DF too to > detect a shutdown condition in the VCPU. If this is not detected the VCPU goes > to a PF -> DF -> PF loop when it should t

Re: [kvm-devel] [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Support for drivers with revers maps (f.e. for XPmem)

2008-02-26 Thread Robin Holt
> > That is it. That is all our allowed interaction with the users process. > > OK, when you said something along the lines of "the MPT library has > control of the comm buffer", then I assumed it was an area of virtual > memory which is set up as part of initialization, rather than during > runt

Re: [kvm-devel] [ofa-general] Re: [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Support for drivers with revers maps (f.e. for XPmem)

2008-02-26 Thread Robin Holt
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:52:41PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > On Tuesday 26 February 2008 18:21, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:11:32PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > > You are missing one point here. The MPI specifications that have > > > > been out there for decades do not

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Izik Eidus
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:58 +0100, Farkas Levente wrote: > Zhao, Yunfeng wrote: > > Hi, all, > > > > This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. > > > > Two old issues fixed: > > 1. fc5/fc6/rhel5u1 no-acpi up guests can't boot on pae host > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?fun

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Farkas Levente
Zhao, Yunfeng wrote: > Hi, all, > > This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. > > Two old issues fixed: > 1. fc5/fc6/rhel5u1 no-acpi up guests can't boot on pae host > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1901208&group_ > id=180599&atid=893831 > 2. Cannot boot 32bit

[kvm-devel] [PATCH] KVM: detect if VCPU triple faults

2008-02-26 Thread Joerg Roedel
In the current inject_page_fault path KVM only checks if there is another PF pending and injects a DF then. But it has to check for a pendig DF too to detect a shutdown condition in the VCPU. If this is not detected the VCPU goes to a PF -> DF -> PF loop when it should triple fault. This patch dete

[kvm-devel] Performance benefits of kqemu?

2008-02-26 Thread Colin Adams
This weekend I was doing some compiling and silimar work on FreeBDS 6.3 running under Fedora 8 using KVM. The performance overhead compared with running native on the same machine was very high - from at least 15x to maybe as much as 25x. I understtod that near-native performance was possible. As

Re: [kvm-devel] The SMP RHEL 5.1 PAE guest can't boot up issue

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Dong, Eddie wrote: >>> I don't know if the patch was still needed now, since it was posted >>> long ago(I don't know which issue it solved). I'd like to post a >>> revert patch if necessary. >>> >>> >> I believe the patch is still necessary, since we still need to >> guarantee that a vcpu's

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Yang, Sheng wrote: >> One new issue: >> 1. qcow based smp linux guests likely hang >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1901980&group_ >> id=180599&atid=893831 >> We found the issue while booting qcow based rhel5.1 smp guest. It likely >> hangs at the first booting. If using

Re: [kvm-devel] [ofa-general] Re: [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Support for drivers with revers maps (f.e. for XPmem)

2008-02-26 Thread KOSAKI Motohiro
> > > > Can you change the spec? > > > > > > Not really. It will break all existing codes. > > > > I meant as in eg. submit changes to MPI-3 > > MPI spec tries to be backward compatible. And MPI-2 spec is 10 years > old, but MPI-1 is still in a wider use. HPC is moving fast in terms of HW > techno

Re: [kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Yang, Sheng
On Tuesday 26 February 2008 17:20:02 Zhao, Yunfeng wrote: > Hi, all, > > This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. > > Two old issues fixed: > 1. fc5/fc6/rhel5u1 no-acpi up guests can't boot on pae host > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1901208&group_ > id=180599&

Re: [kvm-devel] Windows XP activation regression in KVM-60

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
Adam Majer wrote: > Hi, > > Original bug was submitted at http://bugs.debian.org/467043. The summary > is that installs of Windows XP from pre-kvm-60 (pre-59?), then upgrading > to kvm-60 or 61 causes Windows to trigger activation due to "computer > changed too much". Downgrading to kvm-58 or previ

Re: [kvm-devel] [ofa-general] Re: [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Support for drivers with revers maps (f.e. for XPmem)

2008-02-26 Thread Gleb Natapov
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:52:41PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > On Tuesday 26 February 2008 18:21, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:11:32PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > > You are missing one point here. The MPI specifications that have > > > > been out there for decades do not

[kvm-devel] KVM Test result, KVM62-RC2

2008-02-26 Thread Zhao, Yunfeng
Hi, all, This is today's KVM test result against KVM62-RC2. Two old issues fixed: 1. fc5/fc6/rhel5u1 no-acpi up guests can't boot on pae host https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1901208&group_ id=180599&atid=893831 2. Cannot boot 32bit smp RHEL5.1 guest with nic on 64bit ho

Re: [kvm-devel] Windows XP activation regression in KVM-60

2008-02-26 Thread Pelle
I THINK this is due to the fact that kvm-60+ uses a realtek nic as default and not the old ne2000. You could try specifying -nic,model=ne2k_pci I expected this bug to happen on my virtual windows too but it never happened. Adam Majer wrote: > Hi, > > Original bug was submitted at http://bugs.d

Re: [kvm-devel] still seeing network freezes with rtl8139 nic

2008-02-26 Thread Avi Kivity
david ahern wrote: > Almost 7 hours and the uniprocessor case is still chugging along. > > How long does it usually take to hang? How do I go about reproducing this? apachebench (host) against httpd (guest) doesn't seem to trigger it. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to fu

Re: [kvm-devel] [ofa-general] Re: [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Support for drivers with revers maps (f.e. for XPmem)

2008-02-26 Thread Nick Piggin
On Tuesday 26 February 2008 18:21, Gleb Natapov wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:11:32PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > You are missing one point here. The MPI specifications that have > > > been out there for decades do not require the process use a library > > > for allocating the buffer. I

[kvm-devel] [ kvm-Bugs-1901980 ] qcow based smp linux guests likely hang

2008-02-26 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1901980, was opened at 2008-02-26 17:14 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=893831&aid=1901980&group_id=180599 Please note that this message will contain a full copy