Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-18 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Donald, *, On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: Thank you and Adolfo for your replies. My main point was simply the huge amount of work and that small teams are trying to do. (EO team in my case). OK, I misunderstood it somewhat as all those stuff

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site Hi Christian Thank you and Adolfo for your replies. My main point was simply the huge amount of work and that small teams are trying to do. (EO team in my case). Obviously we have to prioritize our tasks. I am trying to get a better feel

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-18 Thread Donald Rogers
Hi, Tom Thank you for your extensive explanation. Your comments on the Getting Started Guide are very helpful. Our team has never completed the help localization, even in earlier years (OOO) when we had a much bigger team. I doubt that we will ever catch up. 437219 words are a lot of words! I

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com; LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org; webs...@global.libreoffice.org webs...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 3:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-17 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: If we are to continue to have both the Help menu help and help.libreoffice.org help, can someone write some code to generate the help.libreoffice.org help from the same .po files that are used for the Help menu

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-17 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Donald, On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: It seems to me that there is a lot of duplication of effort and fragmentation of the help. We have at least the following: LO Help from the Help menu help.libreoffice.org Those are identical. That's the

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-17 Thread Tom Davies
:)  From: Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com To: Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz Cc: LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org; website+h...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2013, 12:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-17 Thread Donald Rogers
Hi Christian Thank you and Adolfo for your replies. My main point was simply the huge amount of work and that small teams are trying to do. (EO team in my case). Obviously we have to prioritize our tasks. I am trying to get a better feel for what is most important. We have the UI done, but the

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-16 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hi, the only survey that would answer how good or bad current help content and current organization of help topics as well as need for help by the users would be to add a survey system into the LO UI, that would report back to a server - where/when do users press F1, what topics they look for

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-16 Thread Zeki Bildirici
2013/2/16 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net: Hi, Hi Martin, the only survey that would answer how good or bad current help content and current organization of help topics as well as need for help by the users would be to add a survey system into the LO UI, that would report back to a server

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-16 Thread Donald Rogers
It seems to me that there is a lot of duplication of effort and fragmentation of the help. We have at least the following: LO Help from the Help menu help.libreoffice.org wiki.documentfoundation.org the guides FAQ ask.libreoffice.org accessibility info features installation instructions mailing

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-15 Thread Zeki Bildirici
Hi, After reading the replies, and remembering the previous arguments, i want to point the important distinction between which is better approach and which way we should improve approach. Previously i said that we should change people's habits to get help, and all stuff we had discussed are

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-14 Thread Tom Davies
...@suse.cz; michael.me...@suse.com; LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013, 22:13 Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site Hi, As we all know LibreOffice help is served in two ways; the locally installed help package

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-14 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
...@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz; michael.me...@suse.com; LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013, 22:13 Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site Hi, As we all know LibreOffice help is served

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-14 Thread Rimas Kudelis
:) From: Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com To: webs...@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz; michael.me...@suse.com; LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013, 22:13 Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

2013-02-14 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi all, On 14/02/2013 11:05, Rimas Kudelis wrote: Hi Martin, I didn't see a suggestion to throw away anything in Tom's post. I think the suggestion was to simply focus on the user guide if you have a choice. And I don't know how Slovenian team works, maybe you are committed to maintaining