[libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Kaïraba, On Saturday, 2013-05-04 13:37:32 +0100, Kaïraba Cissé wrote: N'ko is a right to left language with its own digits. For more information see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%27Ko_alphabet Unicode range : U+07C0–U+07FF I want to start the localization of libre office in N'ko

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Bauer
A question in general - that list is *really* scary unless you have several years of l10n under your belt already and I'm certain it will be putting off a lot of potential localizers. Could we not stick a big note on that page that says If none of this makes sense to you and you want to add a

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Bauer
I personally don't but others might feel there should be another list. As I have no preference, I simply listed the two options that seemed logical to me :) Michael 06/05/2013 12:59, sgrìobh Jonathan Aquilina: Can you explain why another list would be needed instead of this one? -- To

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
The issue with creating another list is that it means we just have something else to moderate in terms of unregistered users. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: I personally don't but others might feel there should be another list. As I have no preference,

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Jonathan Aquilina wrote (06-05-13 13:59) Can you explain why another list would be needed instead of this one? Didn't Michael just refer to the list of items that needs to be done for a new localization? On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: A question

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Bauer
No, I did refer to (potentially) a new list. But please, lets not fixate on that bit, we seem to be agreed a new list is not needed. That wasn't the main thrust of that post though, it was about the scariness of the New localization page Michael 06/05/2013 13:38, sgrìobh Cor Nouws: Didn't

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
my apologies for misunderstanding might be good to get your suggestion on the website list as well. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: No, I did refer to (potentially) a new list. But please, lets not fixate on that bit, we seem to be agreed a new list is

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Andras Timar
Hi, On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: A question in general - that list is *really* scary unless you have several years of l10n under your belt already and I'm certain it will be putting off a lot of potential localizers. Could we not stick a big note on

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Bauer
Yes and no. Let me start again before I create more confusion: 1) I realise Eike only asked for a bug to be filed (that in itself is hurdle #1 as it requires knowledge of what a bug is and how to file one by the way) 2) Eike referred to the Wiki page (presumably to give Kairaba additional

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Andras Timar
Hi, On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: So I guess it narrows my concerns down to a) is that a good reference page to give to new people whose IT skills are an unknown and b) if bugfiling should really be done by the newbie? How could a person without

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 06/05/2013 15:27, Michael Bauer wrote: Yes and no. Let me start again before I create more confusion: 1) I realise Eike only asked for a bug to be filed (that in itself is hurdle #1 as it requires knowledge of what a bug is and how to file one by the way) 2) Eike referred to the Wiki

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Bauer
I beg to differ. All one requires to localize something like LO are translation skills and a good understanding of how a UI works. Sure, you need to learn what a placeholder is but that aside, the translation itself requires much less in the way of IT skills than most projects assume. You can

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Andras Timar
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: I beg to differ. All one requires to localize something like LO are translation skills and a good understanding of how a UI works. Sure, you need to learn what a placeholder is but that aside, the translation itself

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

2013-05-06 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
I suggest someone creates another list with automatic membership to those who argument whether a new list is needed or not (the-pre-list-list). And those who unsubscribe off it should autmatically become members of the-list-for-those-who-do-not-want-to-be-members-of-the-pre-list. Lp, m.