Re: [lace] photos

2010-02-23 Thread Avital
Have to chime in here. That photographer is LAZY and can't be bothered to get the attribution. There's really no excuse in this age of digital photography when we no longer pay for every frame we shoot. All he has to do is take a clear photo of a tag or business card or label. A couple years ago

[lace] Rescued Laces

2010-02-23 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
Hello all, I was so excited to get this find this past weekend while browsing through a flea market.  We do our usual perusing through baskets full of lace at our usual haunts hoping to stock our lace supply for several projects we work on.  Occasionally we run across some really nice samples and

Re: [lace] Rescued Laces

2010-02-23 Thread A . González
Hello Mark. Your second lace is not torchon, but guipur lace. The pattern is very similar to some of the patterns included in the book La guipur du Puy (France): these S shaped tapes (which are not worked as the tape laces) filled with a diamond in half stitch, and the foot side, worked with

Re: [lace] Rescued Laces

2010-02-23 Thread Alice Howell
Nice find, Mark. I agree with the first one -- Beds. However the second one is not Torchon. Torchon is worked on a 45 degree grid foundation. Since it looks like the same scale and thread as the first one, it could be a Beds variation.I know I've seen some similar patterns in some of

Re: [lace] Rescued Laces

2010-02-23 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Mark, nice found, congratulation. The first one is Beds-atyle but the second one is Guipure not Torchon. Very typical as they made Guipure in Le Puy with the s-shaped tape and and the diamonds in halfstitch and very typical the foot side. Thanks for sharing. Ilske - To unsubscribe send

[lace] photo

2010-02-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Avital I'm tempted to copy your whole email and send it to him. Or maybe just extract the most important part. I don't want him to feel attacked, as that will just produce a defensive response, with no movement. I have to think about a tactful, non-threatening way to say it. Lorelei - To

[lace] Tatman's lace

2010-02-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Mark The first one is definitely Bedfordshire and very interesting. I saw black and initially though LePuy. But the subsidiary trails are definitely Beds style. Some of the half stitch areas are a bit odd. Black lace is so difficult to photograph. I've tried it against a red background and

[lace] lace

2010-02-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Mark I agree with Antje about the 2nd one. There is a certain kind of Danish design which Doris Southard called King Christian, and it has a cloth trail with a structure similar to this one. I've always wondered where the King Christian designs came from. Were they part of a general idea

[lace] RE: rescued laces

2010-02-23 Thread Helen Bell
Hi Mark, 2 nice pieces of lace :-) I envy you. The first does look to be Beds, the second one I think is probably more of what we think of as Le Puy. I think Fouriscot has several Le Puy books out and there maybe something vaguely similar in terms of a pattern in there. Both are plaited

[lace] King Christian

2010-02-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Mark The defining element of the King Christian type of design is the snaking trail, typically in the shape it has in your lace. The trail is worked in the Cluny manner, not the Beds manner: pairs enter and pass through the trail, instead of being stored in the trail. There is usually a cloth or

[lace] Re: King Christian

2010-02-23 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
AH! OK.  I have Doris' book and have worked just a bit on this type of snaking trail effect with my lessons.  Will have to look on the page you referenced.  Thanks for the explanations.  So fun to chat and research about all this :) -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog:

[lace] Le Puy - was Rescued Laces

2010-02-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Mark I agree with others that the first one http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/Rescued_Beds_tally_lace.jpg looks to be Bedfordshire - I won't say Beds-Maltese because it's not geometrical enough. The second one

[lace] lace talk

2010-02-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
Mark So fun to chat and research about all this :) This is what I value about arachne. Many people add their little bit to the story, and it soon becomes the large picture. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here.

Re: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread laceviolins_52
How do I find a pattern for the lacey Orenburg shawls? Becca Did you see the photos of the real Orenburg shawls that my officemate's grandmother has? They're not the museum pieces that one finds in books but still, they were interesting to examine closely.

RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread cearbhael
Yes, Avital, I was referring to the medallion shawl in the Gossamer Webs Design Collection. She warns you up front that it is hard but that once you truly understand the method of the Russian patterns you can intuit the rest. I pretty much do understand the method and the patterns and no they are

[lace] Mark's lace

2010-02-23 Thread Lorelei Halley
The LePuy lessons do have a version of the King Christian design with a pattern. There were sets of lessons and patterns printed on orange card, and Lacis used to sell them. But a photo of a similar design appears on page 17 of DENTELLE AU FUSEAU, DENTELLE DU PUY by Fouriscot, Petiot, Jourde

Re: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread Clay Blackwell
Dear Avital and Cearbhael, I am enjoying your discussion of the shawls! Please don't take it private! I think knitted lace is as relevant to this list as tatting or needle lace, and it is something that I enjoy quite a bit. I completed one of the shawls in Nancy Bush's Estonian Lace Shawls

[lace] fiber festival

2010-02-23 Thread hottleco
Hello All! I just received my brochure for the 15th annual Great Lakes Fiber Festival wanted to share the info. NO relation to the show sale, just a satisfied participant in previous classes, customer at the booths, consumer of the roast lamb sandwiches (heaven!!). The show is always at

RE: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread Norma Harris
I'm another who is enjoying the lace shawl discussion and hope it will continue here.  Haven't decided on my next lace shawl, but an leaning much. Thanks, Norma (in VA) http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com NATA #847 Your worth consists in what you are and not in

Re: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread Sue Babbs
I'm another who is enjoying the lace shawl discussion and hope it will continue here. Me too! Especially as I was given Nancy Bush's Estonian Lace Shawls book for Christmas Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here.

Re: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread Avital
Go back to the blog posting and scroll all the way down to the end, just before the comments. There are links to both Galina's books. Avital On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:02 AM, laceviolins...@comcast.net wrote: How do I find a pattern for the lacey Orenburg shawls? Becca Did you see the

Re: [lace] Finally finished a shawl

2010-02-23 Thread Avital
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:04 AM, cearbh...@mywdo.com wrote: quickly...When I started my shawl, I decided to mirror the first 3 repeats, to make it less frustrating. I divided the shawl up with stitch markers into equal sections of 24 stitches with 25 stitches on the right side center (the

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-23 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Susan Thank you for the information, Alex! Do you have recommendations for fabrics, please, as something like satin would be too slick, so perhaps a fine Egyptian cotton, etc.? Go by feel rather than name. The fabric needs to be smooth. I use the very ordinary fine polyester cotton.

[lace] More thoughts on cover cloths

2010-02-23 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 24/02/2010 06:47:18 GMT Standard Time, alexstillw...@talktalk.net writes:Personally I would not choose satin. I think the shine would bother me, but there is no reason why not,.. I can think of a reason why not. The way satin is woven is by having long floats on the