I have posted another piece on
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history which shares some of
the same looping characteristics, but is different. What are your thoughts?
Devon
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I love the effects of alternating the colours in the passives, thus
making it easy to get each worker to be of the desired colour. I
expect you'll get quite different effects depending on the colours you
choose eg pink and red would be more subtle than the vibrant yellow and
red. I wonder
Well done, Suzette! Both samplers are beautiful!
Making a pattern your "own" with small adjustments is the first creative
act that makes the tradition richer and will, over time, develop into new
traditions! All the amazing stitches and techniques we know probably
started with a lacemaker
My first color sample was the result when I failed to excavate to the
bottom of my Tub 'O' Perle! Hundreds of balls later, I finally located
Jane's bright colors & made another sample using a suggestion from Lorelei.
She suggested alternating the passive colors & while it's not made "as
drawn" by
My pleasure!
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> Thank you so much for that link.
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I would also like to show my appreciation for the time people spend sending
links and information in over the year. Not everything interests me enough
to check them out or I dont have time to spend over it, but I still want to
thank you all. In the past I have appreciated many things from you
Thank you Nancy and Arlene for your great reviews, links and images! Many
congratulations to Devon too for such a spectacular exhibition! You must be
delighted Devon and we're so appreciative of the many hours you've put in to
organise such a wonderful exhibition. Just wish I could have
Dear Arachnids,
I can't find anywhere in the archives a post from Angharad Rixon giving the
link to my review of "Lace, not Lace" on her blog, only a mention earlier
that she was waiting for it. So here's the link, in case anyone would like
to read another review:
Devon,
I am sure I saw this „stitch“ who asked "What happened here“ somewhere in all
those new books and patterns with „new“ stitches the problem is WHERE DID I.
It’s another we proof we couldn’t create new stitches.
Sorry not very helpful.
Ilske
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I posted another puzzling piece on laceioli.ning I am sure the ground,
which looks like needle lace is actually bobbin lace. But, I can't
quite figure out how it is done. Ideas?
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history
Scroll down to get to my posting.
Devon
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Awesome idea! I never thought of using a needle for something like that. Thanks
for the tip!
Liz Roberts in Missouri, USA
"That left the two inner passives squeezed--big mistake! A Beadalon beading
needle with a collapsable eye saved my day. I cut off the bobbins leaving
generous
While attempting to sew in the end of a trail to it's beginning, I was unable
to sew in two passive pairs because of tight spacing. I had added magic
threads for the outside passive pair & at the inside pin where the weaver pair
ended at the inner edge. That left the two inner passives
I purchased a little book directly from Ulrike Lohr (Voelcker) in 2009 at a
class. It was published in 1999 and the price is something like 12 Euro. It
is called ABCâs in Flanders Lace. It is a small book, similar in size the
the blue Lace Guild publications. Using it you can make any sign
provolace.com has it for sale, as does Barbara Fay in Germany
My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members,
please ignore it. I read your emails.
I purchased a little book directly from Ulrike Lohr (Voelcker) in 2009 at a
class. It was published in 1999 and the price is something
Another lace and other textiles aucton coming up at Drouot on May 29, 2015.
See http://tinyurl.com/m8o8ben for my post on this.
Laurie
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Another huge lace auction at Drouot in Paris on March 11, 2015. See
http://tinyurl.com/pwp2y5s for details.
Laurie
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Hi Beth
Is it 3ply or 4ply?
Although J P Coats Cotton 40 is 31 w/cm it’s actually 4Z-31 w/cm.
What you have probably compares to Coats sylko 40, 3Z-28 w/cm
Brenda
There are 2 different labels (I'm not sure whether there is any difference in
the thread between the two):
Coats
Hi Brenda - both are 3-ply, so you're probably right
Can't do a test wrap myself, unfortunately - never had the manual
dexterity to wind fine thread evenly enough at the best of times, and
these days arthritis in my thumbs makes it painful to hold the thread
and card while I attempt it - so
Another big lace auction at Drouot in Paris, February 4, 2015. See the
LaceNews post at http://tinyurl.com/o4jum3w. Some major flounces, and a
fragment of Alençon with bees that is said to be part of the famous bed
hangings made for Josephine but adapted for Marie-Louise after the divorce.
Hello All! Earlier this fall, I was searching for a way to share the little
lace pattern that I used for my exchange piece so I asked Arachne. Kim Davis
graciously sorted out the copyright issues obtained permission from both
Marji Suhm the Lace Museum to share the Scania Lace ljusgull
The designs for needlelace were often copied in machine made lace but was
the technique of needlelace ever copied as in some of the bobbin laces??
Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.
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Needlelace 'technique' would not transfer to bobbin lace, but the 'style' of
the finished item was copied. You just need to look at the old pieces of
Reticella to see the similarity in the designs. Then bobbin lace makers
started exploring their own capabilities and a wide variety of styles
I am sorry, I did not phrase my question well! What I would like to know
is: Was the technique of needlelace ever used in machine made lace. Was
only the designs copied or did they try to imitate the technique as well.
Jeanette Fischer, South Africa.
The designs for needlelace were often
Hi all
The list seems very quiet at the moment - is everyone too busy making
lace to post anything? I hope so...
I have finally finished my second salamander from the Michel Jourde
pattern - I think this one is really beautiful, made in two shades
(fiesta and marigold) of Caron Wildflowers
Carolina's Escher-like T shirt brings to mind another possible salamander
project. I am especially fond of lace on T shirts, as I wear them a lot,
and it is a good way to display lace. I would take the pattern and reduce
it until it could fit Aurifil 50 thread, and make enough salamanders to
There's anther lot of lace bobbins on ebay. More feasible as such that the
previous lot, but they're not for bobbin lacemaking. They could be for another
type of lacemaking, if so, what?
To me they look more like elaborate toggle buttons found on duffle coats for
instance.
I think that they are handles to use with plastic supermarket bags. I've seen
these for sale by bobbin turners at lace fairs
L
Kind Regards
Liz Baker
On 3 Mar 2014, at 07:58, Jean Nathan jean...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
There's anther lot of lace bobbins on ebay. More feasible as such that
Hi Arachnids,
I agree with Liz and have just emailed the vendor to that effect.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, East Sussex where the sun is shining at the moment (more rain
forecast :-(.
I think that they are handles to use with plastic supermarket bags. I've
seen these for sale by bobbin
Another big lace auction at Drouot in Paris, March 7th. Just wrote it up on
LaceNews at http://tinyurl.com/k7ljfm4. Lots of good lace auctions in
Paris lately, and prices are rising.
Laurie
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I first thought needlecase, but if you scroll down, someone suggested
that, and her reply was that she thought so too, at first, but as there are
open ends to the gadget, there is no way to keep the needles inside it.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where we are having a few scorching days
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone,
turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas?
My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight
across the middle and not dip in.
It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle
case?
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay.
Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any
ideas?
My first though was to wind
Looks (and sounds) more like a needle case to me.
Karen (currently in London)
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If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a Knife Rest might fit
the bill. (Keep it off the table cloth!)\\\Oh well.
Brian
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Subject: RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin
In my opinion it isn't a bobbin. I saw once a similar thing which was a needle
case.
Ilske
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on this without finding out more and
getting further photographs from the vendor.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, in chilly and grey looking Sussex, UK
From: Jean Nathan
Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call
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part).
I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and
getting
further photographs from the vendor.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, in chilly
and grey looking Sussex, UK
From: Jean Nathan
Subject: [lace] Another
lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what
I have a similar piece that is used just to wind finished straight lace on
behind the pillow???
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651
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?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f
tinied:
http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv
Susie
Morris, IL.
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I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover doors
with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s)
The thin raised bands don't seem to spiral - they seem to be separate
decorative elements.
It could be turned animal bone but it could also be
I keep forgetting reply all
It's definitely a knife rest. I remember them from my childhood--those and
food pushers.
Cynthia
On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Adele Shaak wrote:
I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover
doors with beaded curtains (very popular in
The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the description.
I thought needle case, but with no ends, needles would fall out.
It's not clear if the grooves each end are a screw threads to take a screw on
cap or just rings.
Rollers for lace don't usually dip in the middle.
On 31/01/2014 13:31, J D Hammett wrote:
The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin.
Are we looking at the same thing? The title says Vintage or Antique
Turned Lace Bobbinand in the description: Welcome to my auction for an
Antique or Vintage Turned Bobbin.The item appears to be
rather steep for a bit of plastic.
Joepie, East Sussex
From: Jean Nathan
Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?
The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the
description
.Used as a knife rest, it would roll.
My
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay.
Bone,
turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any
ideas?
My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be
straight
across the middle and not dip in.
My guess is that it is a vintage turned piece-of-something-else.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan jean...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
tinied:
http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv
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Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada
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Oh, wait - a curtain pull! You know, that handle that hangs on the end of the
cord that draws your curtains. The rings provide traction in your hand, you can
pull with your fingers wrapped around the smooth middle section. I see the
seller has confirmed that the hole goes right through the
My first thought was that it's a needle case. I have something similar in wood
which dates back to the 1980s or 1990s and would have been bought from one of
the many bobbin turners around at the time.
However, mine has a cap with a screw end which goes inside the main part. On
close
Or a fan pull for the cord of a ceiling fan. I had a secret pal give me a
wooden one that looks pretty much the same.
Cindy Rusak, in snowy Bracebridge, ON, Canada
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This is another guide generated within the beading community--nothing exciting
but it's a summary that might be of interest given the recent extensive
discussion about copyright:
http://www.beadingdaily.com/media/p/162306.aspx
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Thank you Jean. An amazing concert!
Happy New year!
Antje, from a sunny but freezing cold center of Spain.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/TwistAndCross
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Dear Friends
Here is a link to our second Bobbin Lace Animation in time for the New Year
celebrations.
http://jeanmary
eke.co.uk
This time Blaze Rabbit is
Hello Jean and everyone
The Christmas Concert - the extended version - what a delight!
Thank you Jean, Rabbits and Friends!
The horn fanfare is here
http://jeanmaryeke.co.uk/Movie.html
and the sound starts right away - so be prepared :)
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Jean Eke
I just started a new board on the LaceNews Pinterest site for lace
appraisers, consultants, repairers, conservators, etc. I think it's a good
idea, but am a bit at a loss on what to pin. If you have any recommendations
please drop me a note. I'd like to work these up one-on-one with people.
Jean Jacques Rousseau made bobbin lace when he lived in Switzerland
from 1762 to 1765. See:
Gertrude Whiting: Swiss Lace Patterns. The Bulletin of the Needle and
Bobbin Club, Vol. 33 (1949).
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/articles/nb49_lac.pdf
Vibeke in Copenhagen
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Today, after I had wound some extra bobbins for when I'll need to add
new pairs soon, I put them in a small bag that was made for a mobile phone.
I like it when things have more than one use. :-)
Penelope in Tartu, Estonia
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Thanks Robin. What a lovely dress!! You can also see it at
http://mrs-o.com/
Jane in Vermont, USA
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After the US Presidential debate tonight, the candidates' families joined
the debaters onstage. Mrs. Obama is wearing what looks like a gray
shirtwaist with a black lace
Another reason maybe knitters don't use aluminum needles is because they are so
splippery expecially when knitting a lace shawl for instance.
Wind To Thy Wings,
Sherry
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http://celticdreamweaver.com/
http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/
Nata 616
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It's not the hook itself that determines the size (hence the problem
you've recently had with SMP hooks).
Robin, it's not a *problem*! The tinier the better. I appreciate that
it's the shaft that's the bit that's measured, but it's the hook itself that
has to get through the
I have a couple of crochet hooks with wooden handles, one being an Arachne
commemorative available a number of years ago. I like to use them but when
working with finer threads I use a couple of hooks that became bent near the
ends and they work well. The etsy ones are a bit out of my price
laceandb...@aol.com wrote:
The smallest standard hook I have seen here is a 0.4mm, the new one with the
plastic handle is labelled as a 0.35mm, but is about the same as some 0.4s, and
bigger than some of them.
It's not the hook itself that determines the size (hence the problem you've
I have just been told of another very sad loss for the lacemaking
community - Irma Osterman died on Wednesday. You can read her obituary
at
http://www.littlerockfuneralhome.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1350192fh_id=10306
We haven't heard much of Irma in recent years but promoting and
Dear Lyn and Others interested,
Since you attended the IOLI Convention, you will be familiar with the
Chesapeake Region Lace Guild. I think they were looking for demonstrators at
the Maryland event in a recent newsletter, but I did not find it on their
website. Go to to _www.crlg.org_
I have noticed that a very, very large number of lacemakers also knit. The
same may go for weavers, but since bringing a loom for handwork isnât
practical, I donât notice that as much. Anyhow, there are 2 very popular
wool conventions in the middle Atlantic states, the Maryland Sheep and
And then I heard from a friend that the Chesapeake Region Lace Guild used to
demonstrate there. I should have known someone would have thought of that
long before. lrb
Anyhow, there are 2 very popular
wool conventions in the middle Atlantic states, the Maryland Sheep and Wool,
and the New
Also looking for information on the Watlington Lace Day, held last year on
September 25th. Thanks!
Laurie
http://lacenews.net
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You can tell it is bad weather here as I have spent all day on the computer!
I have written an essay on Ghosts and Smugglers in East Devon. It is not
long. Of course it has a lace connection and even (surprise-surprise,
something about East Devon bobbins; but you will have to read to the end
Thank you for all your thoughts and ideas about dating spangling. I will
try and put it all together sometime and see if it will fit into my
hypothesis (I think it will)
Another question I would like to ask you is
When did the double head (Thistle head) get adopted by the East Midland
lace
Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com wrote:
To all intents and purposes, only the Northern France (Bayeux and Normandy)
bobbins have double heads and only East Midland bobbins in the UK developed the
thistle head.
Not quite true. My favorite Continental bobbin is Swiss, which has a double
I love Gertrude Whiting and I was reading her book the other day and decided
that I would share with anyone who may be interested some of her chatter
about Lace bobbins.
Drop me a line if you are interested. It is not too big.(unless you are on
dialup!)
From Brian and Jean
Cooranbong.
Fran (Bloomer?) makes lovely bobbins and other wood tools. I love her Danish
ones, many have bowling ball material for the ball of the bobbin. She's used
bowling ball for tatting shuttles, too. She sometimes comes to IOLI
convention, but often just sends her things with Kathy Kirchner.
Dear Friends
Does anyone know what became of Maeve de Hetre (later Brown)? She
once made me a beautiful pair of bobbins in porcelain which she hand
painted superbly with Australian galahs (birds). Alas they are now both broken.
I last heard of Maeve in Florida about 5 years (or perhaps more)
Message
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To: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:02:11 PM
Subject: [lace] another bobbin maker US
Joanne Pruitt, was/is on arachne!
She turned/turns beautiful bobbins and has carved or built from wood
many commemorative items for past
Message
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Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 1:02:11 PM
Subject: [lace] another bobbin maker US
Joanne Pruitt, was/is on arachne!
She turned/turns beautiful bobbins and has carved or built from wood
many commemorative items
And lets not forget Pete Alderson in Colorado.
Lauren
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Congratulations Jane and your Group. That Carousel is Gorgeous. Well done
to you all.
What a clever idea and so well turned into a lovely lace project. Very
clever, and a prize well deserved.
Regards from Liz in freezing Melbourne, Oz.
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Maureen
E Yorkshire
Subject: Re: [lace] Another thread question (or two)
On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:26, Gray, Alison J wrote:
some experimenting which is really exciting, all I need is some more
time...!
Get me some as well!
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Sent: 14 June 2010 18:24
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Subject: Re: [lace] Another thread question (or two)
HI Alison
Coats/Sylko has long been problematic to sort out just what is what!
For a long time the regular cotton thread sold for machine sewing was Sylko 50
On 18 Jun 2010, at 16:26, Gray, Alison J wrote:
some experimenting which is really exciting, all I need is some more time...!
Get me some as well!
Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.me.uk
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Dear Arachneans
I went to my local needlecraft store on Saturday to buy some Sylko sewing
cotton, the sort you use for dressmaking. I've been buying it in 1,000 m
reels and using it for lace. To my surprise they didn't have any, according
to the ladies in the shop it was withdrawn and replaced
HI Alison
Coats/Sylko has long been problematic to sort out just what is what!
For a long time the regular cotton thread sold for machine sewing was Sylko 50,
mercerised cotton made by J. Dewhurst Sons / Dewhurst's, part of English
Sewing Ltd. These reels had the three shells logo on the
Le 12/06/10 03:34, Beth Stoll a écrit :
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-LACE-MAKING-TOOL-ABALONE-HANDLE-/400127458197?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5d29747b95
it could be an aficot : A tool originally devised from a lobster
claw used to lay and burnish threads in needle lace .
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-LACE-MAKING-TOOL-ABALONE-HANDLE-/400127458197?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5d29747b95
Mark, the pillow in your picture looks like an old Belgian one, from the
back. My lace teacher has a similar one she got in Belgium. The angle is
right too. With her
Well, I wasn't going to say anything, as I have not been able to spend any
amount of time studying, but one of my lace knitting groups had been
discussing this shawl a week or so ago, and had come to the conclusion that
the center is actually not knitted. The edging is knitted according to
OK, I'm going to be the voice of dissent. There's something weird
about the fabric structure, so I don't think it's knitted. I've looked
at dozens of Shetland shawls in my lifetime in museums, books, on the
Web, etc., knitted a few myself, and I've never seen any stitch
remotely resembling the
Me too, say that's knitted. I heard of such shawls being so fine that you could
pull it through a finger-ring.
Ilske
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Anyone got any ideas on what this is?
http://tinyurl.com/yju5sb9
or ebay item number 350334113458
Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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At 06:59 PM 31/03/2010, Jean Nathan wrote:
Anyone got any ideas on what this is?
http://tinyurl.com/yju5sb9
or ebay item number 350334113458
It's surely got to be a measuring guage of some kind, but I've no
idea what. Never seen anything like it before.
David in Ballarat
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My first thought was that it was a picot guage for tatting... but all
of those little things appear to be the same size. I can't see it well
enough to determine if there are differences in the sizes.
Clay
On 3/31/2010 8:41 AM, David C COLLYER wrote:
At 06:59 PM 31/03/2010, Jean Nathan
My first idea - what a cool Victorian 'gadget' - when all the arms are
outstretched at right angles, does it form a perfect square and if so, would
that be a measure of something related to sewing (a 'patch' ?) or knitting
(a tension swatch? did they test in this way?) or it fell in with the
I keep forgetting (small wonder!) how the obscenely wealthy used to
lavish fortunes on mundane articles for personal use... which were then
used in the presence of others! (Witness: chamber pots in the
ballroom...) Yes, this *could* be a tooth-pick, although one then
wonders if he's
This time I found a German bobbin lace website, and one page of pictures was
of modern work, in a similar vein to Ilske's
http://www.kreuzen-drehen.at/zweckfr/zweckfr.php
But it is worth clicking on all the links on the right side of the page, they
are collections of various kinds of bobbin lace.
I found another needle lacer in Italy
http://handembroidery.ning.com/photo/albums/untitled-1
Lorelei
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I have another question for today - this time related to Honiton Lace, which
should be my next adventure.
It's not clear to me what is meant by Partly Raised and Raised Work - can
someone explain please.
Thanks,
Karen in Malta
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Look at the diagrams in the first section of the article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_group ! A twist is different from a cross
(we could have told them that!). A twist followed by a cross undoes the
initial twist (yup).
Take a look even if you are allergic to math. The
diagrams alone
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STUDIO-POTTERY-LACEMAKERS-CANDLESTICK-CANDLE-HOLDER_W0QQitemZ390075699187QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_PotteryPorcelain_Glass_PotteryPorcelain_China_SM?hash=item5ad252cff3_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Ilske
I see what the problem is - the filename had a space in it and when you
clicked on the link it stopped at that space. Typing the rest of the
URL into the browser did work but I've renamed the files and they
should all work now.
I tried to capture one or two screenshots, but it is somehow tecnically
protected. The old fence is one on http://www.demakersvan.com/ but imagine
it in front of some 10-story building, like
http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data//2/5Couwenhoven_flat_20.jpg
By the way, wouldn't it be an idea with
Hello Jo, Ilske
It opened with Safari for me - but you do have to have Windows Media
Player installed on your computer.
I have taken some screen shots of the video playing. They are .pdf
files so won't open in a web browser, but I have uploaded them to:
: Monday, April 6, 2009 3:33:30 PM
Subject: RE: [lace] Another fence by joep
I tried to capture one or two screenshots, but it is somehow tecnically
protected. The old fence is one on http://www.demakersvan.com/ but imagine
it in front of some 10-story building, like
http://207.44.228.232/photopost
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