Tanne/cotona is designed as a machine embroidery thread and like all machine
threads it has a Z twist to suit the way sewing machines work. If it causes
problems with the way you personally work BL the solution is to try and find S
twisted thread; most linens, cotton perle, cotton a broder etc.
Thank you all—Arachne is a wonderful forum & today it is Thread University!
They say bought lessons are better than taught lessons & I bought a doozy. I
noticed early on that I didn’t like the texture but plowed ahead anyway. Oh
well, lesson learned & unlikely to be forgotten. This was
> On 25 Jan 2019, at 23:43, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:
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> After finishing pattern #3 in Intro to Bedfordshire Lace by Jean Leader, I
> wasn't as thrilled as I had hoped to be. I've posted a pic to Arachne Flickr
> & would appreciate some constructive comments.
Susan,
Looks like you’ve
Hi Susan
'Tatting thread' is DMC Special Dentelles 80 which is identical to Cordonnet
80 which is only a tiny smidgin finer than Cordonnet 70 - so in effect you did
use tatting thread.
The gimp thread in traditional Bedfordshire lace is a softer but round thread,
the difference in thickness to
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Before I can start on my point ground samples, I needed to clear my pillow.
After finishing pattern #3 in Intro to Bedfordshire Lace
Before I can start on my point ground samples, I needed to clear my pillow.
After finishing pattern #3 in Intro to Bedfordshire Lace by Jean Leader, I
wasn't as thrilled as I had hoped to be. I've posted a pic to Arachne Flickr &
would appreciate some constructive comments. The pattern calls
when I learned to make Beds. after the book from Barbara M. Underwood I read in
her book:
Bedfordshire Lace is an East Midlands guipure lace; i.e. it has no net ground,
the design being supported and connected by plaits and brides. It was derived
indirectly from Italian bobbin laces, but more
When I first came across Bedfordshire I knew it as Beds-Maltese and I have
never had a reason to consider it as anything other than a guipure lace
with its origins in the 19th century. The extensive use of plaits does give
it a superficial resemblance to the 16th century bobbin laces which
Thank you Nancy, Jane & Lorelei for setting me straight! And for keeping me
from making a major error at the library. Unless there is some scholarly
objection, I think "early plaited lace" could work when referring to English
lace made in the 1500's. The object here is to make a brief
somebody could figure this out and write a PhD thesis in art history. (Not
me. I have had enough of academe.)
Lorelei
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Subject: [lace] Bedfordshire lace
I ran into a disagreement among lace resources regarding
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17th century through the 18th century." (from Wikipedia "Bedfordshire
lace", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedfordshire_lace)
2) "A new style of lace, Bedfordshire, lace emerged, flourished and died
within 50 years [the last half of the 19th C]." (from Steph Peters' A
Hello All! While working on signage for an upcoming lace exhibit at the
library, I ran into a disagreement among lace resources regarding Bedfordshire.
To my eye, all resources are equally credible but there is a three century
difference of opinion. Should Bedfordshire be considered 16th or
Hi Arachnids
Re: Pam Nottinghamâs Bedfordshire book. Yes Noelene, I am sure you are
right. The leaf starts with a cloth stitch which starts 2 over 3 and the
diagram shows 3 over 2. Publishers sometimes invert or mirror image pictures
so they âbalanceâ on the page, with no regard for
I think I've found a printing error in Pamela Nottingham's Bedfordshire
Lace Making. My edition is a hard cover, 1992.
On page 11 is a diagram of how to do a leaf. She says make a cloth stitch
and Take the third thread to the right under and over the outside thread.
But in the diagram, this
Hi,
I found in an old Lace Magazine number 122 from April 2006 three lovely
butterflies designed by Ann Shadbolt.
The Procking is there but there is no mention as to what size of thread to
use.
Did any of you make these butterflies and what thread size did you use.
Miriam
in Arad, Israel
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It's a beautiful piece, Agnes. Well done! And happy choosing what to do
next!
Sue
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Finally got the Bedfordshire oval finished and uploaded photo on Flickr.
Started this in May on a course with Christine Springett.
Now trying to work out what to do next, though in the meantime I am making
some snake bookmarks.
Agnes Boddington
Elloughton - UK (have a dusting of snow here)
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Hello fellow arachnids
My copy of Reiko Tamura's Beds book has arrived this morning!!
(Thanks Pat!!!) I will say it's got 30 beautiful Beds yardage
prickings in it, along with black and white photos and a 'flow chart'
of what's happening with the threads!Reiko does state that she
Oops... I forgot to say that didn't I?? The postage was less than
expected as well!
BTW Jacqui, we may come and bop you if you don't think about coming to
our Lace Day a week on Saturday!!! LOL
Sue in East Yorkshire
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I would add that
Hello all
Very manny thanks for all your help regarding my picots and leaves, I
shall keep going!
What a very helpful group this is.
Have a good weekend.
Paula
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Hello all
Your help would be much appreciated: I have only made
Torchon lace and decided to have a go at Bedfordshire.
My first problem
is that all my right hand picots split, the left ones are great what is
causing this please?
Secondly my leaves are turning out like holly
leaves, is it
Vis a vis leaves, I have found that the single greatest few moments of
video ever shot are those showing Christine Springett demonstrating a leaf on
one of her Bedfordshire lace videos. In fact, I worked through all her
Bedfordshire videos and it was the single greatest learning experience
Don't give up on the leaves. I had terrible problems with them and would do
anything to avoid them. Now I'm happy, even if they aren't perfect thanks to
the very helpful friends here. There are several different ways of working
them, and it's a case of finding the method that works for you.
Hello Paula,
My first problem is that all my right hand picots split, the left ones are
great what is
causing this please?
Right hand picots need to be worked as mirror images of left hand ones, I'll
send you some diagrams in a separate email.
Secondly my leaves are turning out like
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/recipes/bedfordshire-clanger-422669.html
Dear Spiders , Here is one recipe for the Clanger from The Independent
newspaper. Would have sat very heavy in the tummy, but full of energy.
Sheila in sunny, cold Sawbridgeworth waiting for
Sorry for the late reply, Janice, but I just found this Chat Digest in the
Spam folder, - for some Strange reason. All the other digests - both Lace,
and Lace-Chat, have come through correctly!!
Gran's Clanger was boiled - lovely suet pudding-type wrapping!!
I have no idea how it was made -
Thank you everybody who gave me hints and tips on my Beds lace. I do
appreciate it, and am even more convinced of what a great group this is!
Thank you all so much again.
Dee Palin
Warwickshire
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I do it this way too - with a slight modification because I found the
resulting, joined trail too thick. I gradually throw out every
second bobbin in each trail. That way, when you 'pull the loop'
there's space for each thread and you end up with trails of the
original thickness.
On 17
I do it this way too - with a slight modification because I found the
resulting, joined trail too thick. I gradually throw out every
second bobbin in each trail. That way, when you 'pull the loop'
there's space for each thread and you end up with trails of the
original thickness.
On 17
Could anyone please pass on any tips they may have when making Bedfordshire
lace?
I have begun teaching myself, with the help of some friends and some excellent
books, but I am having a bit of a problem with plaits and picots, in that when
I do a single picot, I sometimes get a little hole under
Hello Dee,
After making the picot and making the first CTC, try pulling from one
bobbin, then from the other... and you will see what happens. When you pull
the correct one the little hole disappears, but when you pull the wrong one,
the hole appears. So, it is a matter of tensioning, and you get
I haven't done a lot of Beds, and not for a while, but I seem to recall that
the picot is wound around the pin differently, depending on which side of the
braid it is on. If you have the little hole sometimes, it may be because
you're winding it around the pin in the wrong direction.
Clay
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Christine Springett teaches picots as follows:
- picot on the left: twist pair 5x - lay outer bobbin loosely around pin
in a clockwise direction and put back in outer position - lay inner
bobbin clockwise around the pin and return to inner position - twist 2x
- now gently pull up both threads
My first question is, how did you come to be working in both directions? I
realize this is not critical to the answer to your question, but it does make
me wonder!
One way to deal with the situation is to work beyond the joining point with
both sets of threads. After you have lifted the lace
Hi Janice,
There is a way to do it without tying knots or weaving back in. I have a
hard time describing things as I am more of a visual learner, but I will
try. I was taught this by a lace teacher from Quebec and I think she got
it from one of Ulrike Lohr's books.
At a point about 15-20
Hello!
I'm just now getting back into lacemaking after taking a ten year
childrearing break. My favorite style of lace is Bedfordshire. I've got
all the books and a few lovely pieces under my belt (before child) I
want to figure out a way to take an in-person workshop or class, but
since I
Mark your calendar for the 2008 IOLI Convention. Yvonne Scheele will be
teaching a Beds class--and she has a new book coming out the first of the year.
Carole
Dublin, OH
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Hi. You're not very far from The Lace Museum in
Sunnyvale, California. They sometimes hold Beds
classes and may have more than one person in their
files who teaches it. Or they may have a contact with
a nearby group who is having a class.
The other thing you might check out is the Winter
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Hi. You're not very far from The Lace Museum in
Sunnyvale, California. They sometimes hold Beds
classes and may have more than one
Dear Lisa,
The Winter Lace Conference in Costa Mesa, CA will have Holly VanSciver giving a
course in Beds - all levels. She is a marvelous teacher and you will be
well-served by making the trip to CA.
Get in touch with Betty Ward at 1-714-522-8118 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another
contact is
There are some Bedfordshire lace samples for sale on ebay, supposedly from
the 1900s (which I suppose could mean any time until 1999), two of those
shown having corners. I was under the impression that corners were a
relatively new development and that lace was gathered prior to their
Since lacemaking has been around for 500 years,
'relatively new' could be a couple hundred years.
More to the point, the book Les Dentelles Aux Fuseaux
by Dillmont has many corner patterns, and the author
died in 1890.
I can't give an earler reference, but I think corners
came in during the
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There are some Bedfordshire lace samples for sale on ebay, supposedly from
the 1900s (which I suppose could mean any time until 1999), two of those
shown
05, 2007 1:16 AM
Subject: [lace] Bedfordshire lace term
While doing some Google searches recently, I came across the name of the
wife of a migrant to Australia in the early 1800's. She and her husband,
and several children, migrated from Bedfordshire, and her occupation was
given as Str--ais
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While doing some Google searches recently, I came across the name of
the
wife of a migrant to Australia in the early 1800's. She and her
husband,
and several children, migrated
Noelene,
Could it be that the woman was a Straw Plaiter? Bedfordshire was a centre
for Straw Plaiting as well as Lace Making. The Plaited straw I imagine
would then be used to make straw hats and baskets that sort of thing. Maybe
the person concerned did both things, plaited straw and
Luton Football club also have the straw boater hat, one of which was
presented to him when he got married. He was a big supporter of the club at
that time.
Sue T, Dorset UK
Noelene,
Could it be that the woman was a Straw Plaiter? Bedfordshire was a centre
for Straw Plaiting as well as
On 4 Apr 2006, at 05:47, Ina le Bas wrote:
I have a similar story to you - my Great grandmother made lace but she
was
born in Kirkmabreck, Scotland about 1835 and at the time of the 1851
census
she was listed as a scholar aged 16. I would dearly like to know if
she
made lace as a living or
Dear Brenda,
Thank you for your reply about lacemakers in Scotland. I have just spent
about three hours on the computer looking up the site and links you gave me.
I haven't made a break-through but it has been most interesting - watch this
space if I do!
Ina
From near Byron Bay, Australia
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What an interesting list of Lacemakers names, dates, etc.
However, I could not see my Great Grandmother's name there. Her surname was
Parrott. Later she married into the Sanders family. She was born in the
late 1850's I guess, as Grandma was 20 in 1899. I have a bobbin with her
name on and
Dear Liz,
I have a similar story to you - my Great grandmother made lace but she was
born in Kirkmabreck, Scotland about 1835 and at the time of the 1851 census
she was listed as a scholar aged 16. I would dearly like to know if she
made lace as a living or just indulged as we do. Please, is
Gina
I recommend Barbara Underwood INTRODUCING TRADITIONAL BEDFORDSHIRE LACE IN
20 LESSONS, 1993 Ruth Bean, Bedford.
She begins with very simple Beds designs and explains the working in detail.
Her book will carry you from the easy to an advanced level.
Happy lacemaking!
Lorelei
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For those who have reasonable access to The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale
California, there are a couple of places still available for a 3 day workshop
in
Bedfordshire Lace taught by Christine Springett in February 2005. The hours
are
10 a.m. to 5 p.m on Saturday and from 9:30 to 430 on Sunday
Hi all,
Many thanks to all who sent me contact information for Robin Lewis-Wild, it
was very helpful!
With a large dose of enthusiasm and a very miniscule amout of common sense,
I recently plunged into a big project, the dress cap in Barbara Underwood's
book Traditional Bedfordshire Lace book
I have just come back from my holday camping on the Scout campsite and
working on the Guide campsite at Bedford. I mention that because I know some of you
take Brownie Guides or Girl Scouts or whatever. Going to Bedford for a holiday
can only be exciting for a lacemaker and I enjoyed driving
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