[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-25 Thread Jane Partridge
In message 8cc83ee338e6ff2-5d24-3...@webmail-d011.sysops.aol.com, Vicki Bradford twohappyb...@aol.com writes I, too, use continental bobbins exclusively and have not had the shredding problem so that might be an explanation. I'm wondering if there are several problems being discussed and the

Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-25 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I agree with Jane. To me shredding means the thread disintegrating due to friction , snapping is a sudden breakage caused by too much tension, either heavy handedness or a weak thread and feathering is the thread just pulling apart, usually because it has become untwisted. I don't usually

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Francis Busschaert
polycotton def the best for this count 18 threads per cm and upwards or you can just use innerlining for skirts it is qiute gloss but as smooth as the of a but you do not realy need to tear downyour pillows now it can be simply overcome whit leather all of you know Anni Noben

Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 24/02/2010 08:40:39 GMT Standard Time, francis.busscha...@telenet.be writes: so the threads will never ever shred on the surface the leather is highpolllished Hi Francis, Leather or plastic is nice to use with continental bobbins, where you want them to slide, but with

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Jane Partridge
In message 24138.3f5865c.38b64...@aol.com, laceandb...@aol.com writes Never did solve the mystery, unless, possibly, had been wound those two bobbins with a different thread somehow. But if they were, it wasn't observable even with strong magnification. Could they have formed the first pair

Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Laceandbits
In a message dated 24/02/2010 11:11:09 GMT Standard Time, jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk writes: Could they have formed the first pair wound Unlikely. Mum was of the school to wind her bobbins in pairs, and as I remember there was a *pair* working the cloth stitch fans. Different enough to

RE: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Sue
And that leather thing dear friends is what got me hooked into lace making, on a visit to Honiton before I had even heard of bobbin lace we popped into a gift shop and I heard this wonderful rhythmic sound , followed my ears and there sat an old lady making lace with a leather cover exactly as you

Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Clay Blackwell
Ah- HA! Then it's definitely the lace gremlins! I suspect they've been around since dirt, but in modern times, some of them have morphed into computer gremlins. Clay Never did solve the mystery, unless, possibly, had been wound those two bobbins with a different thread somehow. But if

Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Malvary J Cole
When we (Jacquie, Tamara, Julie and I) went to IOLI in Montreal, Jacquie and Tamara were taking a course doing Cluny de Brioude. Tamara made 'leather' cover cloths and I was given one which I still enjoy using. Tamara would be able to tell you what she bought to make the cloths with. Some

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Dmt11home
Throughout this discussion I have been wondering whether the shedding threads problem was in any way related to the use of English verses continental bobbins. I have always used continental bobbins with bulbs on the bottom and wound in the continental fashion, which is opposite to the

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Alex Stillwell
The reason I was given to use cotton rather than poly cotton fabric for cloths was that the static from the poly cotton in some way weakens the thread. I am not at all convinced by that as I don't have problems with threads Exactly right. The idea that static electricity has anything to do with

[lace] Shredding threads and cover cloths

2010-02-24 Thread C Johnson
Hi all, I use cover cloths a lot, sometimes covering my entire pillow; so I know from experience that Two (2) problems can result in regard to the shredding of threads and cover cloths: 1.) The longer the working thread between the pricking and the bobbins, the more likely it WILL rub on

Re: [lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-24 Thread Vicki Bradford
I was also in the Cluny de Brioude class in Montreal. Our class materials instructed us to bring a leather piece to work on. I was fortunate to find a remnant of a very soft deerskin leather, comparatively thin and very pliable, plus it felt wonderful to the touch. I believe there were some

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-23 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Susan Thank you for the information, Alex! Do you have recommendations for fabrics, please, as something like satin would be too slick, so perhaps a fine Egyptian cotton, etc.? Go by feel rather than name. The fabric needs to be smooth. I use the very ordinary fine polyester cotton.

[lace] Shredding threads

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Susan Can you detail the actual cause determined, ie, tension, friction, etc., from the cover cloth? Sometimes the cause for threads to become weakened and shred is the cover cloth. When we work our bobbins they are constantly being moved from side to side across the pillow and, depending how