RE: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace

2006-05-30 Thread Jay Ekers
Aantal spelden is the number of rows of grid points in a pattern repeat ie double the number of edge stitches. If that is not clear g consider that the left hand pair from the last ground stitch on the left passes out through the left edge gimp and makes the edge stitch in a pinhole one row below

Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace

2006-05-30 Thread Sue Babbs
Yes, you will need lots more than 68 pins! The number of pins line seems to indicate the number of pins, (counting down the footside) in the pattern to complete a whole repeat . it's easier to check on the following pages where the number of pins is lower Sue I recently acquired a copy of

Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace

2006-05-30 Thread Sue Babbs
More or less the whole pricking on page 145 is one repeat of the pattern. That pattern has two different sorts of fillings used, so the repeat is twice as long as I initially thought). I keep losing count but it must be about 68 dots from the top of the first diamond to the bottom complete

Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace

2006-05-30 Thread Sue Babbs
I too look forward to the definitive answer from a Dutch member. Meanwhile, as we seem to be the only people battling the translation challenge, I still do not see how to reconcile your counting with the simple pattern on page 146, where there are no variations in the repeats, and there seem

Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace

2006-05-30 Thread Alice Howell
--- Noelene Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently acquired a copy of the book Kant uit Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer Aantal spelden: 68 Number of pins I don't understand the Number of pins line. Can anybody offer an explanation? Surely one would need more than 68 pins! When I

Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace

2006-05-30 Thread Jo Falkink
According to the International Lace Dictionary, aantal is number and speld is pin. Obviously the ...en ending will alter the meaning somewhat. -en makes it plural As Sue says, the number given definitely equals the count of the footside pinholes of one complete pattern repeat. I asked

Re: [lace] 's Gravenmoer lace - guessing

2006-05-30 Thread Alice Howell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the precise number of pinholes make a lot of difference. ... Perhaps the end use of the lace governed whether it was a short repeat or a more ornate pattern. I'm going to make a wild guess on this. The traditional end use of this lace was on a bonnet.