Re: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-20 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 11/19/2004 7:02:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only puzzle is why it took the Venetians so long to realise the potential of detatched buttonhole stitch and to develop it into their own art form - the exquisite needlelace which took fashionable

RE: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-19 Thread Bridget Marrow
Thank you, Devon, for the Met Museum link. Its a wonderful piece and the photography is awesome. http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/viewOne.asp?dep=20&viewmode=0&item=1987.277 A few years ago I saw a similar peice of Chinese "needlelace" at an antique dealer's in London. It was dated early

RE: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-18 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends, My first thought was "When did Marco Polo go to China?" Sure enough, his dates are 1254-1324. Trade is always a two way street. While I don't necessarily think that it was Marco Polo or his father or their expedition that was the most likely contact point, I do think that trader

Re: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-17 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 11/16/2004 2:48:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do think that traders and travellers could have introduced some European needle work in that period. I was thinking about Marco Polo, et al, too. But it really hadn't occurred to me that the techniqu

Re: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-16 Thread Sue Babbs
Yes, it does look like needle lace when you zoom in. I, too, thought it reminded me of Hollie Point (but in colour not just white). How wonderful. Sue Babbs As for the appearance of the work, I think it looks more like Hollie Point. > resembles Italian Needlelace, especially in its diamond sh

RE: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-16 Thread Patricia Dowden
Dear Devon, My first thought was "When did Marco Polo go to China?" Sure enough, his dates are 1254-1324. Trade is always a two way street. While I don't necessarily think that it was Marco Polo or his father or their expedition that was the most likely contact point, I do think that traders