RE: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?-earliest tallies?

2017-04-20 Thread devonthein
I have sent Nancy and Lorelei some photos that I took that I can only share privately for study purposes. (Anyone else?) They show rather elaborate tally grounds such as I associate with Honiton. This falls into the category of something I never thought about before. But, when did tally grounds,

Re: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?

2017-04-20 Thread Nancy Neff
Devon, I'm with Lorelei, I can't see tallies, so I'm not sure of this identification, but if it's braids connecting the motifs, how about mid-18th C Brussels? Laurie Waters identified a very similar piece for me as "Brussels a Brides", probably Flemish given the quality. Elizabeth Kurella makes

RE: [lace] lappets, each pair unique? Honiton v. Flemish?

2017-04-20 Thread Lorelei Halley
Devon Very interesting. I couldn't get close enough to either piece to see tallies or other details. Stylistically these fit in the first 2 decades of the 1700s. I would think the label "Flemish" is appropriate, or possibly "early Brussels". This doesn't fit with the pieces usually called "point

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-12 Thread Catherine Barley
ate : 11/02/2017 - 20:13 (GMTST) To : catherinebar...@btinternet.com Cc : lace@arachne.com Subject : Re: [lace] lappets Catherine, I didn't see an answer to your question about Alencon lace, but I don't get all the [lace] messages, so everybody forgive me if I duplicate someone else's answer.

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-11 Thread Nancy Neff
Catherine, I didn't see an answer to your question about Alencon lace, but I don't get all the [lace] messages, so everybody forgive me if I duplicate someone else's answer. Yes, it is apparently still made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hI1uz0p9sk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7lwhYEUCk

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-10 Thread Catherine Barley
Janice your giraffe is exquisite! Many congratulations and you must be delighted with the result. I am faced with a similar problem in that I am currently working on an antique Point de Gaze pattern of a collar, given to me some 30 or so years ago by a Belgian lady. At that time I didn't

Re: [lace] lappets

2017-02-09 Thread Sue Babbs
She is spectacular, Janice! Well done!! I remember conversing with Holly about that birth sac and what she was going to do with the design when she worked on it - a plant was our favoured suggestion. I've added her to your album in Flickr I look forward to seeing the ostrich in due course.

Re: [lace] Lappets versus collars and cuffs

2017-02-08 Thread Clay Blackwell
The most compelling argument that I can think of is that the history of lace had been traced back to the very early years after the dark ages, when totally dark clothing began to be lightened with white linen cuffs and collars, which... over time... began to be embroidered. This eventually

Re: [lace] Lappets versus collars and cuffs

2017-02-08 Thread Nancy Neff
It may also be of interest to note that lace collars and cuffs were during much of their history worn by men as well as, or at times instead of, women, whereas lappets were worn only by women. Nancy Connecticut, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line:

RE: [lace] lappets in the 21st century

2017-02-07 Thread devonthein
Basically, the challenge is to get the lappets out of the lace conference and onto the runways. How hard could that be? Fashion designers always borrow from the past. I don’t think a simple expedient such as transforming lappets into scarves is going to appeal to the fashion world which is

Re: [lace] lappets books

2012-06-14 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Lorelei, they are from a place named Hermannsburg which is in the northern part of Germany, north of the town of Celle. The lappets were worn for the confirmation. They are from black silk and a lot of them in the technique of Erzgebirgische Guipure. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to

Re: [lace] lappets books

2012-06-13 Thread lacelady
- Original Message - From: Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com What style are the lappets? Point ground, Mechlin? Lorelei The lappets of Hermannsburg, Germany, were mostly considered to be Erzgebirge Guipure. The opinion of the people studying them were that they