[lace] Witch Stitch

2004-04-12 Thread Jean Barrett
Good Morning Carolina and All,
I have just finished Carolina's Witch Stitch Spider which I started 
last weekend. It was really interesting to work and although I made a 
real mess of the first leg with the serpentina braid the final result 
is not too bad. I used the recommended Finca 80 thread and it is 
lovely. I know that Barbara Underwood is recommending it for 
Bedfordshire lace now. I found it very strong and smooth to work with. 
Well worth a try if you are having problems with weak threads. I know 
it comes in no.40 as well, and according to Brenda's book lots of other 
sizes. Roseground Lace supplies keep it in the UK.
Now, what do I do with my large arachne spider? t-shirt? Bag? Hat? 
Watch out for her at Scarborogh and Prague.
Thanks Carolina it's a lovely design.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] passementerie

2004-04-12 Thread Carolina G. Gallego
Hello all,
The word passementerie in French possibly comes from the original: 
pasamanerĂ­a that in Spanish refers to ribbons and trims prior to 
laces as we know today.
The meaning of the  word literally expresses to pass something between 
hands, so in this case the ribbons and trims made only with hands.

Here in Spain were made from time immemorial. It is known that an edict 
of the King Alfonso IX, in 1212 ordered to put aside superfluities of 
gold and silver ornaments. But it is sure that the influence that Spain 
received from oriental cultures before this date , have contributed to 
development of this craft.
In the splendid library that Tess and the Professor have provided us, 
you will find more information at this respect, as well as other laces 
that were made in Spain in very old times:
Lace, Puntas and Passementerie by Bernhard and Ellen M. Whishaw.
and...of course much better explained than I could do in English.

Best regards.

Carolina. Barcelona. Spain.
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http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/encajebrujo.html
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[lace] Re: Witch Stitch

2004-04-12 Thread Carolina G. Gallego
Jean Barrett wrote:

Now, what do I do with my large arachne spider? t-shirt? Bag? Hat? Watch 
out for her at Scarborogh and Prague.
Thanks Carolina it's a lovely design.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.


Hello Jean and all,
Congratulations!!! It is great. A weekend is a record time for a first 
time witch stitch lace.

Jean, can I suggest a bag?

Best regards.

Carolina. Barcelona. Spain.
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http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/encajebrujo.html
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[lace] translation for Ebay bobbin description

2004-04-12 Thread Sylvie Nguyen
The translation from the French description of the use
of the bobbins is:

24 bobbins made of olive tree wood which were 
used to manufacture lace on a lace making loom

Sylvie Nguyen
Cherry Valley, IL, USA
where it's cold, but sunny



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[lace] lace in movies

2004-04-12 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
  Does anybody know the name of this movie. It sounds like a movie I would like to 
watch. I like Katheryn Hepburn and I like movies of history like the period of Mary 
Queen of Scots. If anybody knows could you please send me an email. Then I will be out 
hunting to rent the movie to watch it. Thanks in advance.
Sherry
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[lace] new website

2004-04-12 Thread Susan MacLeod
I finally made my website and got it to the right place!  It's mostly 
tatting, with a little bit of bobbin lace.
hurrah!
Sumac in southern Vermont
http//:www.sumac.us

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[lace] lace scissors

2004-04-12 Thread Thelacebee
Guys,

Somewhere in the move my lace scissors have gone west - they are the type 
with the bump on one end of one of the blades.

Does anyone know where I can get a pair in the UK either by mail or from a 
shop?  I think I bought the last pair in John Lewis in Oxford Street but I doubt 
they still do them.

Regards

Liz Beecher
I'm blogging now - see what it's all about

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Re: [lace] Re: floss - long (how-to)

2004-04-12 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 08/04/2004 22:07:22 GMT Daylight Time, 
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 I just stand on the landing and let the skein dangle over the 
 bannister.  I use two pieces of card, on in each hand and wind one 
 stand (or however many strands I want) onto one card and the rest onto 
 the other card
 
 Brenda
 http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/
 

You see, I was going to say I can't do that as I now live in a flat then I 
thought, but I live in a second floor flat that has 3 flights of stairs up to 
the door and I realised that I now have one heck of a way to dangle the skein 
over the banister  but then I thought how I'll be doing this in public with 
the neighbours watching - now how do I explain that!!

Well, if they think I'm completely bonkers they will at least keep away from 
me!

Regards

Liz Beecher
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Re: [lace] a good beginning Bobbin Lace Book

2004-04-12 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 09/04/2004 19:02:33 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I bought a copy of this from SMP only about 12 months ago.

It is a fasinating book whether or not you intend to make the lace and if you 
have the urge to try some then Gillian Dye gives both period and modern uses 
for the lace.

I'd certainly recommend it as a book

Liz

 Dear Janet
 as you are particularly interested in Elizabethan and Renaissance lace, I 
 would recommend a little book called ELIZABETHAN LACE by Gillian Day.  She 
 concentrates on plaited bobbin lace, which is the basis of the Elizabethan 
 style.  She also gives basic instructions for simple needle-lace, reticella 
 and lacis.  There's a lot in a small space!
 
 I don't alas know whether it is still in print, but do get hold of it if you 
 
 can.
 
 Published in 1995 by the Elviston Press, Boston Spa, England.
 ISBN 0 9522709 35
 
 Good hunting!
 
 Bridget Marrow, in Watford, England.
 



Regards

Liz Beecher
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[lace] passement...

2004-04-12 Thread J.Falkink-Pol
Tamara

 question as well, but... *In Polish*, we have a word pasmanteria
 (which seems to have been stolen directly from French) and it covers

Be carefull comparing (almost) identical words in different languages.
Once I confirmed a Swiss gui not to be serious. He laid down his spoon:
Do you mean the French or German serious? I answered to be honest: the
Dutch. It appeared that the French interpretation resembles the Dutch: I
meant he was a joker from time to time, but in German serious just means
trustworthy.


Jo Falkink
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html

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[lace] Passementerie

2004-04-12 Thread Laceandbits
According to Anna Crutchley, in The Tassels Book, passementerie is the 
making of tassels and trimmings.  She says it is a hybrid craft.  It employs the 
talents of the cordspinner, weaver and tassel maker, each of whom works to a 
high level of skill and expertise.  They in turn are answerable to the interior 
decorator or upholsterer who is commissioned be the owner of the house to 
design schemes of great taste and imagination.

Anna is one of the tutors that we have for or lace and textile weekends and 
she does a talk and slide show about some of the traditional methods and 
equipment used to make this high quality work - I believe I am right in saying some 
of hers was used in the restoration of Windsor Castle after the fire.  

Some of the narrow braids she shows could be replicated successfully with 
lace techniques but are much quicker on a purpose made loom and therefore more 
commercially viable.  Even so, they are extremely expensive as they are mostly 
made to order. 

Jacquie

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RE: [lace] Venetian Gros Point Lace

2004-04-12 Thread Panza, Robin
Yes, it's the same Barley.  She's a lovely woman, too.  I took her stumpwork
class at Ithaca a few years ago and had a delightful time!  She also has a
book out just by her, on quite a variety of needlelaces.  It's really nice
if you're interested in the variety.  Each chapter is about one style, with
history, how to recognize it, and how to do it.  It's my very-most-favorite
needlelace text.  The hard-cover version went out of print, but it's back in
paper.  I believe it's just called Needlelace.  It has strawberries on the
cover.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

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Hi All,  I just got a copy of Venetian Gros Point Lace by Nenia Lovesey
and Catherine Barley.  What a lot of delicious lace inside!  [snip] I'm not
sure if the arachne Catherine Barley is the same as the author but if so I'd
just like to say this is a wonderful book!!

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[lace] Venetian Gros Pt. book

2004-04-12 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Yes, Jane, it is the same Catherine Barley - and I agree with you that it is
a marvellous book.
My DD bought it for me many years ago.  There are so many great designs that
trigger so many ideas!
I love the Jacobean type flower spray on the waistcoat, and the sprays for
the Cloche, and .!!!  :))

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Needlelace threads

2004-04-12 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Firstly, the needlelace book Needlelace: Designs  Techniques by
Cathering Barley is a fantastic book, but Not for a beginner.  You would
need to have a grounding in NL before you used the book.  For a beginner try
Val Grimwood's book Starting Needlelace. Work through that so you feel happy
with working NL, and  'Then' treat yourself to the Barley book - It will be
the best book you ever get!! - Well, for NL anyway!

Finca Threads - Please be aware that Finca number their threads differently
to DMC, Madeira Tanne, etc. - Just to confuse us all!  Finca #80
is more like a thin #50 Tanne , and Finca #60 is more like a thin Tanne #30.
As a guide, Barbara Underwood told us to add 20, to get a comparison.
Their crochet cotton is also differently numbered.  I purchased a ball of
#100 - but it is much finer that DMC or Coats (Anchor) 100.  It is more like
a 120, I think.  I must get a #80 in the Fincrochet and hope that will be
more like the usual 100.
I think their Perle 3,5,8,12 are the same thickness as the DMC Perle,
though.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Re: Venetian Gros Pt. book

2004-04-12 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Apr 12, 2004, at 21:35, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

Yes, Jane, it is the same Catherine Barley - and I agree with you that 
it is
a marvellous book.
I don't do NL -- my hands perspire badly, and my sweat seems to be 
*corrosive* (all my pre-BL pettit-point pieces -- made in silk on silk 
canvas -- seem to be disintegrating in less than 20 yrs, and the bigger 
the piece, the faster it dissolves) but Catherine Barley's work has, 
for several years, been something that *almost* changed my mind... I 
first saw it at Ithaca, same year that Robin took the stump-work class, 
and have been hopelessly in love with it since.

I keep thinking that, one day, I'll get Barley's re-issued book, just 
for the drool value (so it wouldn't matter a whit whether it was 
suitable for beginners or not g). I have two books on needle 
lacemaking -- both rescued as remainder books, at ridiculously low 
(irresistible g) prices -- Grimwood's New ideas in Needlepoint 
Lace, and Clark's Needle Lace; Techniques and Inspirations. They're 
both excellent and interesting books, but...

It seems to me that, in every creative endavour (including lacemaking), 
there are (to use a comparison pulled from music) the Czernys and 
then there are the Mozarts... Both are valuable, both have a place 
in the larger scheme of things, but... some work closer to the 
ground, while some have soaring visions. People like Barley (for NL) 
and Suchanek (for wire BL) are the visionaries, who actually move the 
boundaries into new dimensions.

Yours, a BL designer, but definitely a Czerny,
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace] Re: lace scissors

2004-04-12 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Apr 12, 2004, at 11:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Liz Beecher) wrote:

Somewhere in the move my lace scissors have gone west - they are the 
type
with the bump on one end of one of the blades.

Does anyone know where I can get a pair in the UK either by mail or 
from a
shop?
No, not really, but...

I've seen similiar scissors before -- some had a bump on one blade, 
some on both -- but I never thought of them as lace scissors. Here, 
they're peddled as as a *masculine* item -- either to trim one's 
mustache, or to trim one's nose hair (can't remember which)... Often, 
they appear, in catalogues, around Father's Day and such, and are 
puffed up as something for the guy who has everything g

This tid-bit ought to broaden your base of search and, since you're 
puter-literate (where I am not), might produce something available in 
UK.

Yours, buying her lace scissors from the local fishing and camping 
store -- both blades are sharp, but both *curve up* for safety in 
cutting the threads close.
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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[lace-chat] Re: Language usage -- again

2004-04-12 Thread Webwalker
Somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory, there's a half-buried idea 
that each other and one another are *not* the same thing, and are 
used differently. I seem to remember being taught that one's used when 
the interraction is limited to two only, and the other's used when 
there's a bigger group.
I have never seen it written (but am plenty old).  Nevertheless, in my 
mind, each other (when used as a compound word) implies two people. 
When used otherwise, it is more specific that one another.

At   http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/each.html   I found...

... 'Each other' is always two distinct words separated by a space 
although it functions grammatically as a sort of compound word.

The students graded one another's performances.  Said that way, it is 
only clear that each student's performance was graded by at least one 
other student.

Each student graded the performance of each other student--each 
other is not used as a compound word but is very specific.

The students graded each other's performances is IMHO sloppy/incorrect 
(unless you know there are only two) and grammer would be better served 
with one another.

When George and Sally met 12 years later, they stared into one 
another's eyes -- doesn't sound right -- we need the compound term 
each other here.

Susan Webster
Canton, Ohio
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[lace-chat] Ballarat Choral Society

2004-04-12 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends,
If anyone is interested in receiving an email copy of our Ballarat Choral 
Society's Newsletter feel free to ask.

The current one details our next concert (which I am conducting on July 
25th). There might just be the odd original arrangement of which some of 
you may like a copy. :)
David in Ballarat

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[lace-chat] books

2004-04-12 Thread Edith Holmes
For the bibliophiles among us, here is an ineresting site

http://www.persephonebooks.co.uk

Edith
North Nottinghamshire
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Re: [lace-chat] Language usage -- again

2004-04-12 Thread Linda Walton
Tamara asked:-

 Somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory, there's a half-buried idea
 that each other and one another are *not* the same thing, and are
 used differently. I seem to remember being taught that one's used when
 the interraction is limited to two only, and the other's used when
 there's a bigger group. The problem is, I can't, for the life of me,
 remember *which is which*...


Here's an extract from my 1944 copy of H.W. Fowler's A Dictionary of Modern
English Usage (Oxford University Press), page 125.

 . . . 'Each other' is by some writers used only when no more than two
things are referred to, 'one another' being similarly appropriated to larger
numbers; the differentiation is neither of present utility nor based on
historical usage; the old distributive of two as opposed to several was not
'each', but 'either; and 'either other', which formerly existed beside 'each
other' and 'one another', would doubtless have survived if its special
meaning had been required.

Of course, American English may work differently . . .

Linda Walton,
(enjoying a warm Spring evening in
High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.).

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[lace-chat] Re: Language usage -- again

2004-04-12 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Apr 12, 2004, at 13:56, Linda Walton wrote:

Here's an extract from my 1944 copy of H.W. Fowler's A Dictionary of 
Modern
English Usage (Oxford University Press), page 125.

 . . . 'Each other' is by some writers used only when no more than two
things are referred to, 'one another' being similarly appropriated to 
larger
numbers; the differentiation is neither of present utility nor based on
historical usage [...]
Thanks; it's good to know I don't *have to* remember the difference... 
And that, whoever it was who'd put that particular bee in my bonnet was 
just another over-zealous, officious *nothing* g

Of course, American English may work differently . . .
Most of the English I know is *Brit* English; that's what I was taught 
in Poland from the time I was 8, to the time I left at 23. Those were 
the formative years for me, as far as English is concerned; all I've 
learnt in the US in the 30+ yrs since is but an icing on the cake (and 
unevenly applied, at that)... g

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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA (pissin' down all day, but I'm told we needed 
the rain)
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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