[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Jean Nathan

Liz wrote:

David, I was taught Never to pick up the bobbins by their spangles as that
can wear and break the wire or thread - whatever - that holds the beads on.
That is what the shank is for - for picking them up!  :)

Picking up the bobbins by their spangles is the only way I can pick them up. 
If I didn't do that I'd have to give up lacemaking. My fingers don't work 
properly so picking up a bobbin by the shank is extremely difficult - means 
your thumb and finger tip are side-by-side and have to grip the bobbin as 
opposed to finger on top of thumb with the thumb lifting and the finger 
steadying.


I've never had a thread break - have had them untwist as we all have - but 
then I don't use fine threads. And I rarely have a broken wire - easily 
fixed anyway.


As we've said before, there are no lace police so do what's comfortable or 
necessary.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Jacquie Tinch
 I was taught Never to pick up the bobbins by their spangles as that
 can wear and break the wire or thread

The main reason to be taught not to handle the bobbins by the spangles is that 
there is a limit to how quickly you can work that way but if you are like Jean 
and have dexterity issues, it might be the quickest, least painful or only 
option available. 

Jacquie in Lincolnshire. 

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[lace] Demonstrating for the Diamond Jubilee

2012-05-29 Thread Maureen Bromley

Good morning

I am pleased to advise everyone that Wolds Lacemakers, which is based in the 
UK,  East Yorkshire/Lincolnshire  area,  will be demonstrating our 
lacemaking skills at Ferens Art Gallery, Hull from 12 noon to 4.p.m. as part 
of the Diamond Jubilee celebrations that are being organised by Hull City 
Council.  We aim to further promote lace and lacemaking within the area. 
We will also have on display a few photographs showing the lace jabot and 
cuffs which a few of us made, at her request,  for the current High Sheriff 
of Yorkshire.   If anyone wants any further information, please do not 
hesitate to contact me.


Regards

Maureen Bromley (Wolds Lacemakers) 


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[lace] aluminum bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Is anyone suspicious of using aluminum bobbins in light of the way 
that knitters are avoiding aluminum needles?  It's probably an old wives' tale, 
but there may be some anecdotal evidence to suggest health risk from 
excessively handling aluminum.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread lynrbailey
The last time this issue came up, I was discussing some sort of tray as Shirley 
and Liz mention, but I wanted sides that came up for storage to prevent rolling 
off, and came down when I wanted to use the bobbins, so they could just be put 
on the pillow and treated as some sort of cover cloth on the pillow, then the 
sides come up again for storage.  Any ideas, anyone?  I like the cloth idea 
especially, much less chance of breaking the thread on an edge.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where it's going to be another hot one, 
high in the upper 80's, 27-29C but sunny.  Time for the air conditioning, all 
gardening done in the early morning.

Shirley wrote:
use working cloths to support about 10 pairs at a time, stacking on top 
of each other to either side.  One can stack an awful lot of bobbins 
that way.

Liz wrote:
 As to stacking them up - I have seen people use the base of a plastic dish -
 like an ice cream tub, cut down to just about a one inch side, - on 3 sides,
 and no side at all on the 4th, and the bobbins sit in the tray, and they can
 be stacked one on another at the side of the working area.  It seamed to
 work OK.



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[lace] Re: Demonstrating for the Diamond Jubilee

2012-05-29 Thread Maureen Bromley

Hi

I have just realised I did not give you the date, it is Monday 4th June.

Regards

Maureen Bromley



I am pleased to advise everyone that Wolds Lacemakers, which is based in 
the UK,  East Yorkshire/Lincolnshire  area,  will be demonstrating our 
lacemaking skills at Ferens Art Gallery, Hull from 12 noon to 4.p.m. as 
part of the Diamond Jubilee celebrations that are being organised by Hull 
City Council.  We aim to further promote lace and lacemaking within the 
area. We will also have on display a few photographs showing the lace 
jabot and cuffs which a few of us made, at her request,  for the current 
High Sheriff of Yorkshire.   If anyone wants any further information, 
please do not hesitate to contact me.


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Re: [lace] aluminum bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread Tregellas Family

On 29/05/2012 9:33 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:

Hello All!  Is anyone suspicious of using aluminum bobbins in light of the way 
that knitters are avoiding aluminum needles?  It's probably an old wives' tale, 
but there may be some anecdotal evidence to suggest health risk from 
excessively handling aluminum.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

Well, I'm still here, happy and healthy and I've been using my DH's 
aluminium bobbins for lots of years now.


Cheers,
Shirley T.

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[lace] Re: Talking to Bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread Susan Reishus
I talk to my plants  Sue

There has been some research that illustrates that
communicating with plants helps.  

I don't think there is any research on
talking to bobbins, but am not sure talking to inanimate things would warrant
research.
Then there is the whole discussion that occurs about whether plants
are really inanimate...
:)

Best,

Susan Reishus
(Who believes that the magic
ingredient in very successful cooking is love, and that this is verging on
Lace Chat subject matter).

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RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Diane Z
Lyn, you got my thinking going for a tray that didn't take up much room but was 
stiff enough to scoop under the bobbins but not abraid the threads.  Why not 
encase a piece of plastic in cloth.  The plastic should be stiff enough to 
scoop under the bobbins and support them in order -- maybe 6-7 wide and deep 
as you like for your bobbin length.  There would be fabric side extensions, 
maybe 4 wide, to fold over the bobbins and prevent them from rolling out and 
also opened for lacing.  Also, with fabric, a pin could be used if needed to 
hold them on the pillow for storage.

Diane Z
Lubec, Maine, USA

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The last time this issue came up, I was discussing some sort of tray as Shirley 
and Liz mention, but I wanted sides that came up for storage to prevent rolling 
off, and came down when I wanted to use the bobbins, so they could just be put 
on the pillow and treated as some sort of cover cloth on the pillow, then the 
sides come up again for storage.  Any ideas, anyone?  I like the cloth idea 
especially, much less chance of breaking the thread on an edge.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA where it's going to be another hot one, 
high in the upper 80's, 27-29C but sunny.  Time for the air conditioning, all 
gardening done in the early morning.

Shirley wrote:
use working cloths to support about 10 pairs at a time, stacking on top 
of each other to either side.  One can stack an awful lot of bobbins 
that way.

Liz wrote:
 As to stacking them up - I have seen people use the base of a plastic dish -
 like an ice cream tub, cut down to just about a one inch side, - on 3 sides,
 and no side at all on the 4th, and the bobbins sit in the tray, and they can
 be stacked one on another at the side of the working area.  It seamed to
 work OK.



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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Robyn,


Some interesting ideas here which could inspire others to take them further.

A thin wood dowel ought to work just as well as coathanger wire and 
be easier to make up.  And wood will grip the thread beginning, 
making them much easier to wrap.


As soon as I read that I immediately thought of those cheap wooden 
meat skewers. I recall in my early days when I didn't have enough 
bobbins I used them with just a rubber band wound round the head and 
no spangle at all. It was a pain though. However, if I glued a small 
metal nut on to the end, they could work. The only disadvantage I can 
see with such think bobbins is that they'd be a pain to wind.


An alternative magnetic bobbin is carriage bolts, if they come in a 
thin enough size for you.


Love that idea - and I hadn't thought of it. I'll check them out at 
the hardware store.

thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS

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RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Diane Z
Re Carriage Bolts:  When I first tried lace making, supplies were difficult
to find so I used carriage bolts.  But, they colored the thread, so coat
them first with some type of varnish.

Diane Z
Lubec, Maine, USA

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[lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Janice Blair
If you want narrow bobbins but with a square end, you should check out the 
bobbins made by Richard Pikul in Canada.  They are as slim as a midlands but 
flare out at the bottom.

You can see a sample on this 
website http://www.lacegazette.com/CLGbobbinlarge.html and you can contact him 
by email for a pdf brochure.  rpi...@sympatico.ca 

I have enough for a Milanese pillow and I love the feel of his finish.  He 
weights the ends inside with lead, but it does not cling to a magnet.  Tried 
it. 
 Wonder if he could weight them with something that would be more attractive to 
a magnet?

My DD had a pair of bobbins made for me for a special occasion, and we have had 
them for commemorative bobbins at my guild.  I used Paypal to buy some from 
him, 
so dealing with another country was no problem.  No relation, just a satisfied 
customer who wishes she had unlimited funds.

Janice
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] RE: talking to bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread Helen Bell
I have 1 bobbin I've talked to so far.  It's a family Antique, and I have no
idea who the Charles is on the bobbin from 1842, and where he fitted into
the family history, but I did ask him very nicely to not give me trouble
while I worked on a piece of Lester lace in class with Holly VS 2 years ago.
Charles did seem to respect my request, and the bobbin behaved itself :-)
Maybe it's because I have him working away on my projects, and he likes
that.  Who knows :-)

I do have some aluminium, brass, and brass tipped bobbins.  I don't use them
much except for gimps, as the weight seems to help me keep my gimps in
order.  I do love the brass tipped wood one I bought many years ago from
someone associated with the group in Canberra.  It's a nicely turned wood,
and the brass is milled beautifully, and it's just a very pleasing bobbin to
use.

Cheers,
Helen, Duvall, WA

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Lin Hudren
Wow, talking about the meat trays, those styrofoam trays are not very deep,
but they are smooth and will hold weight.  you can get a few free from
butchers but collect the right size to suit you.  If you cover it with
cloth and also have the side flaps mentioned above, that would serve for
travel as well as holding them for use.  I would be tempted to have the
flaps extra long so several trays could be stacked and then secured
together.  The edge would allow scooping without actually changing the
configuration.  But if you wanted smaller ones that would only hold maybe
10-12 bobbins each, you can cut them in half and use the lack of the lip as
the scoop.  I will have to test this out myself as a rubber band can secure
the bobbins in the tray and altho it would suffer, you can use divider or
hat pins to secure the tray to the pillow.  these can be disposable after a
few uses.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali
Overton, NV USA





On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:42 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.auwrote:

 Dear Robyn,


 Some interesting ideas here which could inspire others to take them
 further.


  A thin wood dowel ought to work just as well as coathanger wire and be
 easier to make up.  And wood will grip the thread beginning, making them
 much easier to wrap.


 As soon as I read that I immediately thought of those cheap wooden meat
 skewers. I recall in my early days when I didn't have enough bobbins I used
 them with just a rubber band wound round the head and no spangle at all. It
 was a pain though. However, if I glued a small metal nut on to the end,
 they could work. The only disadvantage I can see with such think bobbins is
 that they'd be a pain to wind.


  An alternative magnetic bobbin is carriage bolts, if they come in a thin
 enough size for you.


 Love that idea - and I hadn't thought of it. I'll check them out at the
 hardware store.
 thanks
 David in Ballarat, AUS


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RE: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread David C COLLYER

At 03:47 AM 30/05/2012, Diane Z wrote:

Re Carriage Bolts:  When I first tried lace making, supplies were difficult
to find so I used carriage bolts.  But, they colored the thread, so coat
them first with some type of varnish.


OK - thanks Diane
David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Joy Beeson

On 5/29/12 12:27 PM, Diane Z wrote:


. . .  Why not encase a piece of plastic in cloth.


And for plastic that you can pin through:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_canvas

--
Joy Beeson
http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.html
west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where summer has begun.

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[lace] Aluminum bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
I have some that my husband made...and I use them. I really don't think they 
are a health risk...it isn't like you are sleeping with them or holding onto 
them all of the timeI would use them. They make such a pretty tinkliing 
soundvery relaxing


Wind To Thy Wings,
Sherry
celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com
http://celticdreamweaver.com/
http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/
Nata 616

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[lace] Another thought on Aluminum bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
Another reason maybe knitters don't use aluminum needles is because they are so 
splippery expecially when knitting a lace shawl for instance.


Wind To Thy Wings,
Sherry
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http://celticdreamweaver.com/
http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/
Nata 616

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Donna Fousek



I to have a few bobbins made by Richard Pikul.  I agree with Janice about
the feel and balance of them. They are very a pleasure to use.\

Donna 

Near
Chicago.

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread bev walker
I have some, but they aren't that narrow. They take just as much space as
most of my other bobbins. The most slender I have were made by the Perrins'
son (SMP lace, his name escapes me, starts with N?) and lots of them would
fit on a pillow in one layer.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 If you want narrow bobbins but with a square end, you should check out the
 bobbins made by Richard Pikul in Canada.  They are as slim as a midlands
 but
 flare out at the bottom.


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Clay Blackwell
I agree with Janice and Donna that these bobbins are a pleasure to work 
with.  But Bev, they are not to be confused with someone else's 
bobbins...  his are totally unique!   I have a few of them, and find 
that regardless of whether I'm using spangled bobbins or Bayeux bobbins, 
or for that matter any other bobbin, they fit right in and play well 
with others.


I will say, however, that I'm not convinced they would meet David's 
criteria for ultra-slim.


Clay


On 5/29/2012 3:57 PM, Donna Fousek wrote
 I to have a few bobbins made by Richard Pikul.  I agree with Janice 
about the feel and balance of them. They are very a pleasure to use.\ Donna


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[lace] RE:

2012-05-29 Thread John Margie Criswell
wow this is crazy check it out http://www.bunnews.net/biz/?page=0757759

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[lace] RE:

2012-05-29 Thread John Margie Criswell
wow this is crazy you should look into it 
http://www.missnews.net/biz/?page=9247030

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Janice Blair
Was it Neill?  Richard's are less than 1/4 on the stem but do open out to a 
little less than 1/2 which is less than spangles take up.  I just like the 
feel 
of them.
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org






 I have some, but they aren't that narrow. They take just as much space as most 
of my other bobbins. The most slender I have were made by the Perrins' son (SMP 
lace, his name escapes me, starts with N?) and lots of them would fit on a 
pillow in one layer.


On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

If you want narrow bobbins but with a square end, you should check out the
bobbins made by Richard Pikul in Canada.  They are as slim as a midlands but
flare out at the bottom.


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of 
Canada

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread Joan Wilson
Hi,
Richard Pikul does not have a web site just email. His bobbins are a dream
to work with, the wood finish wonderful.
Joan in Ontario.

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Was it Neill?  Richard's are less than 1/4 on the stem but do open out to
 a
 little less than 1/2 which is less than spangles take up.  I just like
 the feel
 of them.
  Janice Blair
 Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
 www.jblace.com
 http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org




 

  I have some, but they aren't that narrow. They take just as much space as
 most
 of my other bobbins. The most slender I have were made by the Perrins' son
 (SMP
 lace, his name escapes me, starts with N?) and lots of them would fit on a
 pillow in one layer.


 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:

 If you want narrow bobbins but with a square end, you should check out the
 bobbins made by Richard Pikul in Canada.  They are as slim as a midlands
 but
 flare out at the bottom.
 
 
 --
 Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
 Canada

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[lace] Re: Aluminum Bobbins

2012-05-29 Thread Susan Reishus
Is anyone suspicious of using aluminum bobbins (as) 
knitters are avoiding
aluminum needles...there may be some anecdotal evidence to suggest health risk
from excessively handling aluminum. Sue Hottie


There just was a big
discussion on a sewing machine list and online things conflict but note, that
aluminum is absorbed through the air, cookware, deodorants, etc.  Of note, is
that coincidentally many reknown knitters died of Alzheimers (when aluminum
needles were the main composition used). 


I think if you are a more acidic
body type I would avoid them, just as one avoids cooking acidic foods (like
tomatoes) in aluminum.  To some degree, aluminum rubs off on things so could
color threads (wound closest to the bobbin) as one doesn't realize until you
knit several rows of white, and see that there is a greyish tinge.  (This is
more obvious with Addi Lace needles, which are brass).  When knitting, one
thinks you aren't as directly exposed, but with lace knitting, perhaps more. 
If you have ever had an aluminum detox, you really feel the difference but
won't notice if over the years as it accrues.  It is pretty amazing, along
with chelation therapy for other metals that are considered by practitioners
(Dr.'s) like aluminum, lead, nickel, etc.  It does interfere with some things
we blame on aging like mental function, and other concerns linked to anemia,
but those are only two of many.

HTH,
Susan Reishus

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[lace-chat] Bookmark Exchange

2012-05-29 Thread lackam

Evening everyone,

Could everyone who has mailed their bookmarks already please let me 
know so I can mark you off? My computer dumped and I lost some 
information.


Thank you,

Amber
Forest, VA

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Re: [lace-chat] Bookmark Exchange

2012-05-29 Thread bertrans1
Amber,
i mailed all mine the week you sent out my list of names  I have received
2 so far.
Sallie

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 Evening everyone,

 Could everyone who has mailed their bookmarks already please let me know
 so I can mark you off? My computer dumped and I lost some information.

 Thank you,

 Amber
 Forest, VA

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Re: [lace] There's never enough room

2012-05-29 Thread robinlace
 David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: 
A thin wood dowel ought to work just as well as coathanger wire and 
As soon as I read that I immediately thought of those cheap wooden meat 
skewers. I recall in my early days when I didn't have enough bobbins I used 
them with just a rubber band wound round the head and no spangle at all. It was 
a pain though. However, if I glued a small metal nut on to the end, they could 
work. The only disadvantage I can see with such think bobbins is that they'd be 
a pain to wind.

I was thinking of the skewers, too, but opted for a more general description.  
But they would be a lot easier to wind than your coathangers.  Both are hard 
because they're very narrow, but that's what you want.  On the other hand, it's 
really hard to get thread to stick to metal for winding smoothly and 
reasonably tightly, while the skewers are usually bamboo (at least in the US) 
and hold the thread well.

Robin

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Re: [lace] There's never enough room (collapsible boxes)

2012-05-29 Thread robinlace
 lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: 
The last time this issue came up, I was discussing some sort of tray as Shirley 
and Liz mention, but I wanted sides that came up for storage to prevent rolling 
off, and came down when I wanted to use the bobbins, so they could just be put 
on the pillow and treated as some sort of cover cloth on the pillow, then the 
sides come up again for storage.  Any ideas, anyone?  I like the cloth idea 
especially, much less chance of breaking the thread on an edge.-

Instead of trying to construct a box with sides that fold down, how about a lid 
that a box comes down onto?  There are plenty of plastic boxes out there with 
snap-on lids.  Some of them are of non-brittle plastic so you could probably 
carve one side's edge off.  Then 3 sides of the box fit into the groove in the 
lid and the 4th side has a shallow gap that the threads feed through from the 
bobbins inside.  I suggest you keep an eye out for shallow, soft-plastic boxes 
of appropriate dimensions.  

Second option:  Big cardboard rectangle to support the bobbins, covered with 
fabric with a seam around the cardboard (acts as hinge for sides and keeps the 
cardboard in place).  Three sides have a narrow rectangle of carboard and the 
fabric from the base extends over these cardboard walls.  Put laces or velcro 
hook-and-loop fabric or button-and-loop at the corners of the side pieces.  To 
create a tray, fold the sides upright and tie/hook them together.  To turn it 
into a cover cloth, untie/unhook the sides and they'll flop down.  I don't 
know how clear this is.  I could draw something and send it to you if you're 
interested.  It's beyond my ASCII-art abilities.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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