[lace] Stunned
How do I feel about this? How *should* I feel about this? I don't know - apart from feeling completely stunned! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN- SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027 This is a beautiful vintage HONITON LACE of a bird in flight I think its a TERN which has been hand made and put into a frame it is on a deep blue type material.The reverse of the picture has a label which says HONITON LACE BY BILL BLAKE SCOTLAND. Overall the picture mesures APPROX. 7 1/2 inches wide by 9 3/4 inches high. The frame surround is a nice gold coloured wash on wood. The honiton lace is absolutely lovely with terrific detail. The bird which looks as though its about to dive measures approx. 7 1/2 inches tall at the longest . It is an off white thread which has been used and very unusual. There is no damage or fading, and is very nice. This piece of lace was made from my design, published in Lace vol 51 (July 1988) and I can confirm that it is definitely a tern. Obviously the lace that's been sold was not worked by me, but who was Bill Blake and why is his work being sold on ebay? Who is the seller, whinbush123? It took me 3 months to make the original, maybe Bill was a fast worker, but this has sold for only £10.50!!! Whoever bought it got a real bargain, and I feel it hugely undervalues hand made lace. (I wouldn't part with mine for ten times that!). And I have to say that, much as I appreciate postings about looking after our lace, it demonstrates that there is very little value to it . Still, I treasure my original even if its in worse condition than Bill's. Vintage! - Eek!! Does that make me feel old or what?!!! How old must an item be to be described as vintage? This piece can be no more than 15 years old (counts rapidly on fingers since obviously too senile to do anything else ;-) ). The same seller has another lovely honiton picture by the same lacemaker. I recognise the design but can't think whose it is. It currently has 12 hours to go and has no bids. I suppose I should be pleased that my design was attractive enough to receive 2 bids What will the seller do with the lace if it is not sold? More seriously, what are your thoughts on seeing lace made from *your* designs sold on ebay? Apologies for all the exclamation marks, but I'm speechless!!! Best wishes from Jane in soggy Hampshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned
I think 1988 publication of pattern means it could just be 25 years old. I guess that's vintage in textile terms. Beth in a horribly wet, windy Cheshire (UK) On 12 February 2014 12:54:55 GMT+00:00, janefr...@gmail.com janefr...@googlemail.com wrote: How do I feel about this? How *should* I feel about this? I don't know - apart from feeling completely stunned! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN- SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027 This is a beautiful vintage HONITON LACE of a bird in flight I think its a TERN which has been hand made and put into a frame it is on a deep blue type material.The reverse of the picture has a label which says HONITON LACE BY BILL BLAKE SCOTLAND. Overall the picture mesures APPROX. 7 1/2 inches wide by 9 3/4 inches high. The frame surround is a nice gold coloured wash on wood. The honiton lace is absolutely lovely with terrific detail. The bird which looks as though its about to dive measures approx. 7 1/2 inches tall at the longest . It is an off white thread which has been used and very unusual. There is no damage or fading, and is very nice. This piece of lace was made from my design, published in Lace vol 51 (July 1988) and I can confirm that it is definitely a tern. Obviously the lace that's been sold was not worked by me, but who was Bill Blake and why is his work being sold on ebay? Who is the seller, whinbush123? It took me 3 months to make the original, maybe Bill was a fast worker, but this has sold for only �10.50!!! Whoever bought it got a real bargain, and I feel it hugely undervalues hand made lace. (I wouldn't part with mine for ten times that!). And I have to say that, much as I appreciate postings about looking after our lace, it demonstrates that there is very little value to it . Still, I treasure my original even if its in worse condition than Bill's. Vintage! - Eek!! Does that make me feel old or what?!!! How old must an item be to be described as vintage? This piece can be no more than 15 years old (counts rapidly on fingers since obviously too senile to do anything else ;-) ). The same seller has another lovely honiton picture by the same lacemaker. I recognise the design but can't think whose it is. It currently has 12 hours to go and has no bids. I suppose I should be pleased that my design was attractive enough to receive 2 bids What will the seller do with the lace if it is not sold? More seriously, what are your thoughts on seeing lace made from *your* designs sold on ebay? Apologies for all the exclamation marks, but I'm speechless!!! Best wishes from Jane in soggy Hampshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned
There is another piece on sale from this seller http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/400657718058?nav=SEARCH Worrying Kind Regards Liz Baker Voicemail and Mobile: 07958 186 842 On 12 Feb 2014, at 12:54, janefr...@gmail.com janefr...@googlemail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN- SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned
Interesting question. In a sense, I think you feel a little violated because it seems that a design you gave to the magazine appears as though it is being used commercially. However, as you say, the low price implies that commercial making of handmade lace is not really viable. My theory on this is that the piece passed into the hands of the ebay auctioneer via an estate. So, projecting a bit, perhaps the maker made this as a labor of love for someone important to him, who cherished it. I am sure that you intended this to be the use of your design. However, when the piece goes to auction, it is devoid of the sentimental value, and finds a buyer who is evaluating it entirely on the basis of comparable ebay items, possibly simply as wall decoration. (It may even be the case that the piece is being bought for the frame.) I had a conversation with a man who was a blacksmith at a historic village one time. He told me that he would make a nail at the village, and then sell it for $5. However, at a garage sale it would sell for only about 50 cents. The people who bought the nail were buying the experience of seeing it made, was his explanation. I think that this shows that for hand made lace to achieve any value on the market place, it has to be presented in the context of some kind of demonstration, or educational setting with loads of history thrown in, so that the buyer is buying the history, the cultural tradition, etc. Generally speaking, the public is not knowledgeable about lace, so they don't have any basis for critical evaluation of a piece of handmade lace. In fact, it is hard to perceive the difference between handmade and machine made lace, and machine made lace is quite inexpensive. Of course, without a lot of study, and understanding of technique, oil paintings are just color on canvas. Handmade lace in our era is at historically low values. In the 1920s when there was a lot being written about making and collecting lace the prices were rather high, especially for exceptional pieces. I suppose, in a way, you could consider that for the people who appreciate handmade lace, today's market place presents an incomparable buying opportunity, totally devoid of investors running up the price. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned
Bill Blake was an ex-miner who learnt to make Honiton lace with Elsie Luxton after he retired. Back in the 1990s he was teaching Honiton lace in Kirkcaldy, Scotland. Somewhere I have a photo of him at his lace pillow. Sadly he is no longer with us and I wonder if whoever is selling his lace realises how much work was involved. Jean in wet, grey Glasgow - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned
My guess is that the seller of the lace has no idea of the value of the pieces. And I don't think Jane should feel too upset about the pieces being sold from her patterns. From what Jean Leader says they weren't made to be sold for profit (or loss, as in this case). We have all made pieces of lace from patterns in books and magazines, and if no-one wants to keep what I have made, I would rather they were sold when I die, than put in the trash. Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Stunned - hand made items/ IP/Licensing
I'm setting up a sewing/costuming business so I've been doing a lot of research in both the market of hand-made items use of patterns/fabric for further sale. What I've found is that there is a market for high priced hand-made items, however, lace isn't one of them. Things like pillows, dolls, dresses, corsets, etc are very popular. People are not going to pay HUGE money for my tatted bookmarks so I will eat the cost on those, but I can charge more for the Comic/Geek themed items to make up the difference. It's a balance between cost what people will pay. I've found the successful sellers have a mix of cheep and custom items. As to the copyright/IP side of things most of what I found is that the courts (in the US) have ruled that a person who buys a pattern or some fabric with a licensed image on it does have the right to then use those objects to create another thing which can be sold. The buying of a pattern or the buying of the fabric has been ruled to fall under first sale use. So, if I buy a magazine with a pattern in it, then make a bunch and sell them on ebay, that is legal; at least in the USA. Though it is recommended to put - Big and obvious - a disclaimer of affiliation on items with clearly licensed images - like Disney. This is not a licensed Disney product. It is however, hand-crafted from licensed Disney fabric. I am not affiliated with or sponsored by Disney Enterprises. It's also recommended that listings be worded clearly...ie Sundress made with Disney princess fabric. NOT Disney Sundress. Hope that helps someone. Robin -- Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination. The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit. Now, let's dance. *~Tom Hiddleston* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned--one moral of the story
I think one lesson that can come out of this is that we should write the provenance of what we make as near the lace itself as is practicable. We know that Bill X made it because that was written on the back. If it included, 'from a pattern from Lace created by Jane Fread, that would also be known to all. I understand it is a great surprise to be browsing and see your creation there, especially without attribution, but that happens, especially without copyright. If you think about it, it is actually quite a compliment. The alternate might be what made news here in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA, a/k/a quilt country, where an Amish woman copyrighted her quilt pattern at the behest of a friend, but never enforced the copyright, being Amish. It was then sold to a business, which is now forbidding the sale of any quilt made of that pattern. It is causing quite a flap among the spring Mud Sales, auctions of quilts and other items to support local volunteer fire companies. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we are gearing up for 8-14 inches 20-35 cm of snow. Very ready for spring. Jane Fread wrote: How do I feel about this? How *should* I feel about this? I don't know - apart from feeling completely stunned! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN- SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027 This is a beautiful vintage HONITON LACE of a bird in flight My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Tern
That must be an old link, the auction finished in November presumably last year. There were two bids but it remained £10 so the same person must have made them both to ensure they won. If they wanted it so much it must have gone to a good home where it would be appreciated :-) Diana In a very wet and wind blown Northamptonshire but thinking and praying for those in the flooded areas. Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Stunned/IOLI Convention
I was unable to find the tern auction as it was over, but did see the heron one. I agree with Devon that the price could conceivably be for the frame rather than the lace which is beautiful and should be appreciated. When I used to make small lace items in frames for friends or local sales, I would add a label on the back which showed a lace pillow with the bobbins and add the words Hand Made by and my name. Friends that acquired them, treasure them and even have Christmas pictures on view all year round, but when my friends are no longer around, who knows what their ancestors will do with them. I had the pleasure of making them and seeing that they were appreciated. I like to think my family will keep my lace or at least put it on eBay at a price that is worth the work. Doubt that as far as my son is concerned. When I asked him to scan my Beds giraffe, he gave me the copies and said here's your big lace thing! I also saw the basket that Susan Hottle posted. What a lot of work! Gil Dye is teaching this summer in Sacramento at the IOLI convention, so if anyone wants to learn how to make 16th/17th Century lace, they should check out the IOLI website, Conventions, Classes, and click on the subject to see samples of the laces. http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org Classes are filling. AP001 Lauran Sundin's wire lace class is full, as are P202 Bedfordshire, Jean Leader, P204 Milanese with Louise Colgan,and P208 Floral Bucks/Thomas Lester Beds with Holly Van Sciver. Spread the word around your lace guilds that if you wait to enroll, you might miss your favorite teacher. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Stunned
Jane, As an overseas buyer on eBay (Australia) I would be deterred from buying a glass framed item from the UK as postage is expensive and the chance of the glass arriving in one piece would be minimal. Even well packaged books often arrive with bent or damaged corners. Glass framed items therefore are not popular or the buyer can hope that the seller will take the glass from the frame before shipping but not all sellers are this obliging. A beautiful design. Please feel impressed that your design was liked so much that it was beautifully worked and framed and enjoyed on his wall for the remainder of his lifetime by him and supposedly his friends. Annette in Wollongong, NSW Australia Where we are getting much needed rain. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of janefr...@gmail.com How do I feel about this? How *should* I feel about this? I don't know - apart from feeling completely stunned! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN - SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Tern
The link is still active and the photo is still there - but it is necessary to copy and paste the entire link into your browser. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Diana Smith Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 4:28 AM To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Tern That must be an old link, the auction finished in November presumably last year. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Stunned
Thank you for the explanation of the maker of the Honiton picture on eBay, Jean. I wish someone could give us information here in Cooma, Australia, about the previous owner of some bobbins and shuttles we've recently acquired. They were sent to our local tip as landfill when the rent on a storage unit hadn't been paid for some time, but luckily our tip has a Recycle Shop and the stuff was inspected (and rescued) before it was dumped. The consignment included over 35 pair of Malcolm Fielding bobbins in Australian hardwoods (never used, still with their labels and some with certificates), other collections of bobbins all with the Australian wood inscribed on the body, some threads, and two hand carved shuttles from a Tasmanian artist who describes herself as a Scrimshaw and carving artist, which had cost the original owner a great deal of money, and which were hidden in a fabric purse in a bag of thread! But no lacemaking pillows whatsoever. There was an enormous quantity of other stuff - cartons and cartons of craft books (including lace books from the 1980s and 1990s), knitting wool, wool and silk ready for spinning, fabrics, and so on. We assume the previous owner had passed away, and the executor of her estate had no idea these things had value! All we can find out is that she was a doctor, her name, and that she had lived in the small town of Tumut, but no-one seems to know anything about her. The bobbins are now sold - we were able to offer the Recycle Shop a lump sum for the whole box, then resell them among our local group of lacemakers. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au Bill Blake was an ex-miner who learnt to make Honiton lace with Elsie Luxton after he retired. Back in the 1990s he was teaching Honiton lace in Kirkcaldy, Scotland. Somewhere I have a photo of him at his lace pillow. Sadly he is no longer with us and I wonder if whoever is selling his lace realises how much work was involved. Jean in wet, grey Glasgow - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] stunned
Yes the bird is stunning. What is outrageous is that only 10 pounds was bid. Shameful. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] stunned
Devon Your remarks are very much to the point. Robin Thanks for the report. Interesting. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Tern
I found the listing by copying and pasting the number at the end of the link. Diana Sent from my iPad On 12 Feb 2014, at 20:37, Ruth Budge thelacema...@optusnet.com.au wrote: The link is still active and the photo is still there - but it is necessary to copy and paste the entire link into your browser. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Diana Smith Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 4:28 AM To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Tern That must be an old link, the auction finished in November presumably last year. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace Classes at Sweet Briar
There are still a few spots available in Sandi Woods' class at Lace at Sweet Briar! The brochure shows her Fishies, which is the course she has prepared for newcomers in her class, but people who have worked with Sandi before will have an opportunity to discuss with her beforehand what pattern they might work in the class. If you did not get a brochure in the mail but are interested in the class, email me privately and I can send you a PDF. Clay Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] re:stunned
On Monday, on the French lace forum, there was a post with almost the same title, about a book, 50 New Milanese Lace Patterns, selling for 1 105.72 EURO on Amazon. The other extreme. Jane, this is what we all dream about when we go to car boot sales - finding a treasure an ignorant seller hasn't recognised for its true worth... Having said that, I find it very sad.. I just hope the person who bought it fells as if she(or he) has won the lottery I looked up 'vintage' in wordreference.com, and they define it as from the 70's, as opposed to antique! Sue in Montélimar, where we have had the first dry, sunny day for ages - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] I tired to buy it but my bid wasn't high enough=stunned
I would have loved this one and the other one which I was able to find and see. But alas...I wasn't the bidder. :( Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry New York, US of America celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] re:stunned
A friend who dealt in antiques said that 25 years makes vintage and 50 antique. This was told to me in the80s so it seemed right that 50s items were vintage. However I find it strange to think of 70s items as vintage. I tend to try not to think about the 70s at all!!! L Kind Regards Liz Baker On 12 Feb 2014, at 21:28, Susan Vossier susan.voss...@gmail.com wrote: I looked up 'vintage' in wordreference.com, and they define it as from the 70's, as opposed to antique! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re Stunned
Having been an Executor when my parents died, as many on this list will have been, it can be very difficult clearing a house and putting a value on things. There were several items that we listed on ebay, (not lace) but we had to weigh up whether to list each item at what we thought it might be worth, and pay a higher listing fee or to start low and hope that the bidding would take off. We opted for the latter, and even then only a couple of things sold, without much interest to increase the price. Those things that didn't sell, of course, we lost the cost of listing. I've also been in the situation of having two of my students die, and having their stash to clear, at the same time trying to impress upon the children/husband that they should at least keep one or two things, even though no-one of the present generation was interested in making lace. When you are faced with an Estate to clear and you have no idea of the value, you have the choice of keep, charity shop, sell or bin. Ebay is one way of possibly getting what something is worth, and of selling it to someone who wants it. It might seem horrific that someone would sell, on ebay, lace made from a pattern published in a magazine, without credit to the designer. But, if they only knew that their Uncle - or Client (remember often the Executor is the family solicitor) - made it, and hadn't a clue who designed it, they wouldn't be able to give that credit. Rather than be stunned, I would feel a little sad that it didn't gain a lot of interest and command a higher value, but be glad that someone who wanted it bought it (even if that person was a dealer themselves who would possibly sell it on), and that the maker liked the design to spend time making it - I'm sure Jane Read knows as well as I do that you can have many patterns published but it is rare that you hear whether or not anyone has ever made lace from them. If we said that no-one could sell the lace we'd made after we died, what would happen to it - would it get stuffed in a box in an attic, or be thrown out? Sometimes museums are offered lace from Estates. More often it is a case where, if you have a funeral to pay for, and the deceased had few savings, what they did have needs to be sold. I doubt my daughters and grandchildren will keep everything I've made over the years, my main hope is that Great Great Grandmother Harriet Banner's cross stitch sampler, in a frame I think made by her father (it has hand made nails in it, and he was a nailer in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire) is kept in the family. It will be 190 years since she finished it in November this year. It would be nice to think some of my work will still be around in 200 years' time, but I doubt it! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] lace photos
I just did a google search onBrussels bobbin lace and Flemish bobbin lace. I have posted them on my pinterest board. It is usually hard to find such early laces. http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-antique/ Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Estate planning
Jane Partridge mentioned in some detail the situations various executors/trixes face when dealing with the estate of a lace maker. It behooves us to figure out what has value, which may not be what we spent so many hours making, but may be our books, or the midlands bobbins, or an expensive pillow, as opposed to the others. A word to the future administrators of the estate as to what is known to be valuable, and perhaps what was paid for that fancy bone bobbin from a special maker would be a good idea, and a great favor to them, making the estate more money by pointing out where the value is. For many reasons it might be a good idea to take a picture of the expensive bobbins, with date of purchase, if you remember it, maker, if it's important, and what you paid for it. Not only for an estate, but also for insurance purposes. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we are waiting for the snow tomorrow. That's not the most worrying, but any extensive power outages. Everything that can be charged is charged. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Estate planning
At some point in my lacemaking career, I observed an elderly member of my guild who was no longer able to see well enough to make lace. She sought the help of a member of the guild, who agreed to sell her extensive collection of Midlands bobbins. Several years later the same elderly lady contacted me to help sell the rest of her stuff. The first person who had helped her had taken bobbins worth two or three thousand dollars (Archer bobbins... 20 -30+) as well as many other highly prized English and Australian bobbins...as well as a full collection of lacemaking books), and had told her they were sold and had given her roughly $25 for the lot! My advice is that when you have a collection to sell, be sure that you involve an entire guild, and not just one member. If you have no heirs, then leave your guild or the IOLI to dispose of as they wish. If you have heirs, leave them written directive as to who should handle the lace supplies/collection, and if possible, a reasonable estimate of the worth of the collection. The lady who was so badly served by one member of my former guild later contacted me to sell the remainder of her things. The bobbins alone... minus the Archers and the other fancys, fetched at least $1,500, while her pillows and other supplies took the total to nearly $2,500... Which she received in full from me. Please... Take the time to document your collection, and be sure to include this in your estate plans! Don't let it get swiped by a greedy volunteer! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA Sent from my iPad On Feb 12, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Jane Partridge mentioned in some detail the situations various executors/trixes face when dealing with the estate of a lace maker. It behooves us to figure out what has value, which may not be what we spent so many hours making, but may be our books, or the midlands bobbins, or an expensive pillow, as opposed to the others. A word to the future administrators of the estate as to what is known to be valuable, and perhaps what was paid for that fancy bone bobbin from a special maker would be a good idea, and a great favor to them, making the estate more money by pointing out where the value is. For many reasons it might be a good idea to take a picture of the expensive bobbins, with date of purchase, if you remember it, maker, if it's important, and what you paid for it. Not only for an estate, but also for insurance purposes. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we are waiting for the snow tomorrow. That's not the most worrying, but any extensive power outages. Everything that can be charged is charged. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Estate planning
Yes, Lyn, and I thank Jane. I have saved this..as I am nearing the place where I will soon have dispose of over 30 years of lace books and stuff. I still lace a bit, and love all the books and simply cannot bring myself to disposing of all the printed matter and materials. I still instruct folks in beginning lace, am expected to be a source information of any related topics. This last is a laugh:))) but I try. So long as my bifocals allow me use the small pillows I will plug along making little lacy gifties. My family always want what comes off of the pillow, shuttles , needles and hooksand, as I am past 86, we will soon be a five generation family..so lots of gifts to make.and so little time. Right this minute I am knitting. Tomorrow, who know what will inspire my fingers!? For a lurker ...I have really said enough to last for years So Talkatchalater, smiles BarbE Near Dallas On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
