[lace] Armenian Lace

2018-12-19 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Seasons Greetings to everyone, and I hope the Festive Season and in to 2019 is
a good one for you. (How can it be almost 2019 already?  I know we had a
couple of weeks of October, - but whatever happened to November? Did we get
one this year? I think I missed it!!!  😊 )

I get the Digest form of this list, so am a bit late with answering!
Elena asked about Armenian Lace.

Elena Dickson has written a couple of books on “Eastern Mediterranean
Knotted Lace” – and they are excellent – I learned from them! They are
in English, with very clear diagrams. I can recommend the books – one is
well out of print, I think, but she produced another one with much the same
beginners instructions in it, but with some different patterns to make! That
should be still available – “Mediterranean Knotted Lace,” by Elena
Dickson  (Milner Craft Series)  Published 2005 – so it should still  be
available . Mine has a soft cover.
If you are looking for her first book (hard cover)  it is called “Knotted
Lce in the Eastern Mediterranian Tradition” published in 1992 – also by
the Milner Craft publishers.  You might be lucky and can find a 2nd hand copy
– like I have!

Her 3rd book is more advances – Bebilla flowers.

It is a nice lace to make – once you get the basic idea, can make the knot,
and get it Tight! (My problem, - so Elena told me when I managed to get a
class with her – I was not tightening my knots enough!)

Regards from Liz.

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Re: [lace] Re: Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-19 Thread N.A. Neff
Veronika,

Excellent analysis, pictures, and discussion! (What are you using for your
diagrams? Inkscape?) At the end of the discussion on your website, you
commented about whether the pattern will show up in bobbin lace, and it
occurred to me that perhaps adding some extra twists and crosses
judiciously in the body of the area, not just at the edges, might product a
well-defined pattern (although based on but not really a proper twill, of
course). This may be irrelevant since the question was initially about
doing classic weaving in the cloth-stitch areas of bobbin lace, but I
thought I'd offer it as a tangent, since it might produce some interesting
patterns when combined with your method of producing a twill.

All,

The other thing that occurs to me, as another tangent, is that a different
form of weaving would lend itself to bobbin lace: tablet weaving (in the US
often called card weaving) produces a warp-faced fabric with pairs of
threads twisted around each other above and below the weft. I think the
bobbin lace version would be easy to produce since twisting the 'warp'
threads is easy, but unless lots of 'warp' threads were added at the start
of the solid area, one would get a much more open weave with lots of 'weft'
showing.

Just some random thoughts.

Nancy


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:35 PM vmi  wrote:

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> ...2/2 twill has a float of only two threads which I think might hold
> together better. ...
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> Veronika Irvine
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[lace] Re: Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-19 Thread vmi
Hello Joseph, 

You have asked an interesting question.  In 3/1 twill there is a float
over three threads which may be a bit long for bobbin lace.  However,
2/2 twill has a float of only two threads which I think might hold
together better. 

I decided to try and figure out how I would make 2/2 twill using pairs
of bobbins and just slightly modifying the plain cloth technique.  The
explanation required some pictures so I decided to post it on my blog. 
I am still working on the description and, in particular, I now need to
go and make some samples.  However, if you want to see an early draft of
my idea, here it is: 
https://tesselace.com/2018/12/20/2-2-twill-with-bobbins/ 

Thank you for the nice puzzle. 

Kind regards, 
Veronika Irvine

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