Re: [lace] Lassen question

[N.A. Neff]

It's called point de racroc, and is quite a different technique--it doesn't
overlap the two pieces at all but sews in a thread between the two pieces
of net that follows a path that connects the two pieces as if they were one
piece of net. In lassen, the sewing thread whips around the bars of the net
in the overlap area and will inevitably make a thicker area of net.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 16:26 jviking @sover.net  wrote:

> Is this the name that is used for the stitching to attach bands of
> Chantilly together to form the really big shawls? Or does that have
> another
> name?
>

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[Bev Walker]

"racroc" maybe, I think?
Yes it does have a different name.
ok, found it in Alex Stillwell's dictionary. Point de rac(c)roc or Point de
raccroche



On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 1:26 PM jviking @sover.net 
wrote:

> Is this the name that is used for the stitching to attach bands of
> Chantilly together to form the really big shawls? Or does that have
> another
> name?
>


-- 
Bev where the sun is shining through the sea fog in Shirley BC, near Sooke
on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[jviking @sover.net]

Is this the name that is used for the stitching to attach bands of 
Chantilly together to form the really big shawls? Or does that have another 
name?
  
 Thanks, Jane in Vermont USA where it is gorgeous!
 jvik...@sover.net
  
  
  


 From: "Bev Walker" 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 12:31 PM
To: "Gon Homburg" 
Cc: "Adele Shaak" , "lacelijst -" 
Subject: Re: [lace] Lassen question   
Then I wasn't far off the mark after all.
Thanks for the background information. Lassen and lace are "tied together"
in origin.
I like words.
Bev in Shirley BC Canada

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[Bev Walker]

Then I wasn't far off the mark after all.
Thanks for the background information. Lassen and lace are "tied together"
in origin.
I like words.
Bev in Shirley BC Canada

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:57 AM Gon Homburg  wrote:

> The etymology of the dutch word ‘lassen’ is:
> From Middle Dutch  lasschen
>

>  (“to join together”). Further etymology is unclear, but probably
> borrowed from Old French  lacer
>  (“to tie”).
>
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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[Gon Homburg]

The etymology of the dutch word ‘lassen’ is:
>From Middle Dutch  lasschen

(“to join together”). Further etymology is unclear, but probably borrowed
from Old French  lacer
 (“to tie”).
Best regards
Gon Homburg, Amsterdam, The Netherlands



> Op 17 jun. 2019, om 17:41 heeft Adele Shaak  het volgende
geschreven:
>
> I always think of the word “lash” as in “lash together”
>
> Adele
>
>> Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of
>> It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a
>> Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "lace" but I
>> could be over-thinking!
>> Bev in Shirley BC Canada
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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[Adele Shaak]

I always think of the word “lash” as in “lash together”

Adele

> Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of
> It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a
> Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "lace" but I
> could be over-thinking!
> Bev in Shirley BC Canada

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[Bev Walker]

Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of
something are joined together (in some way) to look like one.
Sew together is more relevant.

It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a
Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "lace" but I
could be over-thinking!
Bev in Shirley BC Canada

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 6:26 AM Gon Homburg  wrote:

> Hi Jane,
>
> I think there is no translation of “lassen” used for lace in one word.
You
> could translate it as sew together.
>
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Re: [lace] Lassen question

[Gon Homburg]

Hi Jane,

I think there is no translation of “lassen” used for lace in one word. You 
could translate it as sew together. You are sewing one end of the lace to the 
other, just as you do with welding of metal pieces. The big difference is that 
welding is done between two ends of metals and the sewing together or lassen of 
lace is done by making an extra repeat in other to overlap and than sen 
together on the best possible spot, so that the sewing is invisible when the 
overlap is cut away.

Best regards

Gon Homburg, Amsterdam, The Netherlands



> Op 16 jun. 2019, om 23:54 heeft Jane  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Helen,
> 
> After reading your email, I was curious enough to look on line and there 
> appears to be a course at the Kantcentrum
> 
> "Lassen en innaaien van kant"
> 
> G**gle translates the course description as:
> 
> Welding and sewing in lace
> We end one side. Welding and sewing is the complete finishing of a edge.
> The edge must be welded and fabric sewn with a lace for a square edge and an 
> incrustation for a circle.
> This gives a nicely finished edge.
> 
> Welding lace?!! Maybe someone can come up with a better translation?
> 
> If you want to find out more, the course is at the end of July
> https://www.kantcentrum.eu/en/summer-courses/lassen-en-innaaien-van-kant
> 
> Best wishes,
> Jane Read
> New Forest, UK
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[lace] lace machines

[DORIS O'NEILL]

Pat Earnshaw's book Lace Machines and Machine Laces ISBN 0 7134 4684 6  is a 
good source for information on many lacemaking machines.  

Doris O'Neill, Chicago Area

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Re: [lace] The Digital Exhibition - Lace Identification: 7 examples

[AGlez]

Thank you so much for this link, Olga! It is a great job you have done and
so interesting!

Have a nice week!

Antje González, Spain
www.vueltaycruz.es

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[lace] Lassen

[Kathleen Harris]

When I was learning Flanders and Binche in Bruges, 30years ago, I was taught by 
Anne-Marie Verbeke-Billiet. She taught her students to start at a point in the 
lace where a join could be most invisibly placed. The first repeat of the 
pattern was to practise and learn the pattern, and the last repeat would lie 
over the first, which would be cut away.

We were not taught how to make the join, but advised to take the finished lace 
to the t’Apostilente shop where the girls ( sisters I think) were experts at 
“lassen”. I know several lacemakers who did this and were very pleased with the 
result. And it wasn’t too expensive either. I tended to make samples rather 
than complete circles or squares of lace, so I have no personal experience. 
Now, I wish that I had some complete pieces!

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