[lace] The Digital Exhibition - Lace Identification: 7 examples

2019-06-18 Thread Olga IEROMINA
Hi everyone,

Thank you for your feedback and encouraging words!
I am glad that this work is of interest to you.

As noticed by Susan, the TRC has many other textile related digital
exhibitions. Also there is always some exhibition or activity in the
premises. So if you happen to be somewhere near Leiden, you are always
welcome to visit the center.

Regarding Phil's question about lace machines there is a good book written
by Pat Earnshaw which we have used during the research: "Lace Machines and
Machine Laces". It consists of two volumes. The first one is a
comprehensive  guide about lace machines and the second is addition to the
first volume and describes the latest technologies that appeared between
the years those two volumes were published.

A brief overview of lace machines development can be also found in other Pa
Earnshaw's books: "Identification of Lace" and "How to Recognize Machine
Laces"

Best wishes,
Olga

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Re: [lace] Honiton? Beds?

2019-06-18 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Devon et al.,

Yes, it's a straight lace so not Honiton. I think it's late 19th C and
probably German because it looks like the bobbin lace I've seen in several
reprints of late 19th / early 20th C German pattern books.

I've blathered on on the ning site some more about it, and also why it's
definitely not Honiton, so I won't repeat that here -- unless there is
interest from anyone without access to the ning site? Let me know.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM Adele Shaak  wrote:

> I’m not sure, but I’d say it was Beds because it not only doesn’t
have
> raised & rolled work, it also doesn’t have the coarse thread that I
connect
> with Honiton lace. Also it looks to me like it is made all-in-one - the
> motifs and the ground made at the same time.
>

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[lace] Lassen

2019-06-18 Thread H M Clarke
Thank you to everyone who participated in the lassen discussion. It brought up 
more questions than answers but that is what historical topics tend to do. I do 
hope that some of our silent majority also found it interesting. 

If anyone has anything further to add then do please pipe up. Or if it has 
triggered your own questions then why not put it to the rest for their 
thoughts. 

For now, I am going to consider the error of my ways and battle on with a hot, 
dry, summer. 

Regards, Helen. 

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Re: [lace] Honiton? Beds?

2019-06-18 Thread Adele Shaak
I’m not sure, but I’d say it was Beds because it not only doesn’t have raised & 
rolled work, it also doesn’t have the coarse thread that I connect with Honiton 
lace. Also it looks to me like it is made all-in-one - the motifs and the 
ground made at the same time. 

Adele

> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Devon Thein  wrote:
> 
> Now that I am looking at the piece that is described as coming from
> Honiton, I am wondering if the technique is actually Bedfordshire. What do
> you think?
> Devon

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Re: [lace] Honiton? Beds?

2019-06-18 Thread Maria Greil
Hello Devon,
Sorry, but I cannot see the pictures you say you put in the laceioli
identification site. Can you please put a link to go directly to your
discussion. Thank you !!!
What you ask and the answers given by the members are very welcome and
interesting.
Maria Greil
a German living in Spain

El mar., 18 jun. 2019 a las 17:10, Devon Thein ()
escribió:

> Now that I am looking at the piece that is described as coming from
> Honiton, I am wondering if the technique is actually Bedfordshire. What do
> you think?
> Devon
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[lace] Honiton? Beds?

2019-06-18 Thread Devon Thein
Now that I am looking at the piece that is described as coming from
Honiton, I am wondering if the technique is actually Bedfordshire. What do
you think?
Devon

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[lace] Honiton?

2019-06-18 Thread Devon Thein
There is a piece in the Met collection that is identified as coming from
Honiton. I am trying to put technique information into the catalog. But I
don't know how to characterize this piece. I just put photos on the
laceioli.ning identification site. The number is 48.187.645. The background
is unusual, and may remind one of some Honiton fillings. However, there is
no raised or rolled work.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this? What do you think? Was work like
this done in Honiton? If so, what would we call it?
By the way, the pieces is a handkerchief with a join that does not go
through the corner.
Devon

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[lace] Bucks corners (was Lassen)

2019-06-18 Thread Leonard Bazar
 Dear Nancy
I suspect there is a misunderstanding.  In her 'The Technique of Bucks Point
Lace' p.75 Pam Nottingham states that: 'In the past very few patterns had
corners as lace was worked by the length round a pillow. most of the corners
for the narrow, traditional edgings have been designed within the last 30
years [writing in 1981] to satisfy the demands of the modern lacemaker.'  She
is referring just to those narrow edgings which would have been bought by the
yard and mounted round a handkerchief with a gathered frill to get round the
corner. The method devised to make worked corners on them is the familiar
methods of using a mirror and hoping for the best, using a mirror and
adjusting to be workable, using a mirror and adjusting to look good, or the
asymmetrical corner, which when successful works well and looks good, but is
far harder to do! this makes more sense for the modern lacemaker who does not
in general make yard after yard but would make just sufficient and make it to
measure the handkerchief. P. 136 of the book has a superb 19 century made
handkerchief, but a much wider border.
Anne Buck's 'Thomas Lester, his Lace and the East Midlands Industry 1820-1905'
has many show handkerchiefs with wide borders and elaborate corners, mainly
Beds, but some Bucks, including on p.26 a partly worked draft, showing how
designers worked then. It has a central reverse and symmetrical corner. The
pattern features are drawn, and look as though a mechanical method was used to
produce symmetry - tracing paper no doubt. The designer has written 'Honey
Comb' and 'pt' where they are to be used, and has constructed geometrically
the honeycomb and point ground on one side only, leaving the other for later,
presumably, but put the markings for tallies in the ground, and for mayflowers
(cloth stitch squares) in the honeycomb - not always in the right places for
the latter!
leonard...@yahoo.com In London, less said about the weather the better
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 15:25:32 -0400
From: "N.A. Neff" 
Subject: Re: [lace] Lassen question

I guess I have to confess that I believed a source and shouldn't have, or I
totally misunderstood her: Pam Nottingham was emphatic that she and her
students were the first to design flat corners for edging handkerchiefs, in
the mid-twentieth C. She must have meant only Bucks because I've just
surveyed handkerchiefs in the Met's on-line catalog, and there are lots of
flat corners from the 19th C but in other types of lace. I saw only a
couple of joins, but the pictures aren't detailed enough to tell whether
there are joins hidden in the gathered part around a corner.

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