Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Adele, That is a very interesting idea. Looking closely at the Old Lacemaker and the "attributed to Gabriel Metsu" paintings, it appears that they have something like you describe on them too. Devon > > > > On Sep 4, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Devon Thein wrote: > > I have no idea what purpose the

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Devon: I’ve taken a look at this weird little thing in extreme closeup. If it’s a decoration it is odd that it is completely plain. I am struck by the fact that it is in line with the pricking, and it covers the space between the top of the pricking and the drawer opening, and I wonder if

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Devon Thein
Interestingly, it seems Maes used exactly the same pillow in his painting of the Old Lacemaker in the Mauritshaus Museum. https://www.mauritshuis.nl/en/explore/the-collection/artworks/the-old-lacemak er-1101/# Perhaps it was a family possession? The pillow is the same even to the hanging

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread The Lace Bee
Elana I used to dress up as the lacemaker in this painting. https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30098126 Sent from my iPad > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I have a question about lace pillows in the 17th century Dutch Republic >> that I hope you can help me with. >> >> I'm giving a talk at the end of

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Devon Thein
Debbie Stoller, I would say that the pillows are not exactly the same because the one you show has a "lectern-like" base, a term I have now read in the English translation of the bobbin and pillow book which I would not have remembered that I have had Diane not mentioned it. The pillow in the Maes

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Debbie Stoller
This lady has the same exact kind of half-circle pillow: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/79/a7/dd79a713eed7a7ddc027022a2535c972.jpg > On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Devon Thein wrote: > > Dear Elena, > There is a

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Devon Thein
Dear Elena, There is a book, Kloppel, Kissen, Stander about pillows, bobbins and stands. Unfortunately it is in German. It does not have a pillow exactly like this one, although there are similar ones. The book, as far as I can tell physically describes the photos of the pillows and I don't think

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Maria Greil
Hello Elena, The only information I could find is a book in German, which was edited in 2002, about the collection of (Hannelore Schulte of) old lace pillows in Europe. I am sending a picture of the cover page to you privately. I wish you the very best of success regarding your talk Regards,

[lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

2019-09-04 Thread Elena Kanagy-Loux
Hello everyone, I have a question about lace pillows in the 17th century Dutch Republic that I hope you can help me with. I'm giving a talk at the end of the week on lacemaking in Holland in the 17th century, focusing mainly around Nicolaes Maes's 1656 portrait "The Lacemaker" (as seen at the