Re: [lace] Speed and co-operative lace

2020-11-25 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi all,

I'm with Alex -- I most enjoy puzzling out a new pattern or reconstruction
of 17th -- 18th C Binche/Valenciennes. I gain most pleasure from getting it
right with the best technique I'm capable of, and speed is only an issue in
relatively boring spots such as cloth stitch -- hence my having learned to
speed up cloth stitch.

The all-absorbing challenge of a complicated, asymmetric pattern is heaven,
and I don't necessarily want it to go by too fast.

To each her own. Fascinating diversity keeps the world an interesting
place. And faster means more lace so thank heavens most people go faster
than I do!!

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA


On Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 05:27 Alex Stillwell 
wrote:

> ...
> Although I make no effort to work fast I get the same joy of experience
> working with my hands and having the experience of seeming to block out
> other
> stimuli but it comes not only from making lace but also from the activity
> of
> puzzling out what to do next.
>
...

>

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Re: [lace] Speed and efficiency in lace

2020-11-25 Thread Gon Homburg
There is a difference between techniques and methods. Mostly is used the
closed method in which the stitches except cloth stitch end with the
appropriate amount of twist. Skansk Knipling is made according the open method
in with every stitch ends with a cross. This method is common in laces which
are originally made on a roller pillow. There is no need to switch method when
using a new technique. Skansk Knipling can also made in the closed method. The
result is the same.
Originally my mother taught me the closed method the same way as she learned
how to make lace. More than 20 years ago Lia Baumeister taught us the open
method, the way she learned to make lace. The last method is more efficient
because every stitch end the same way with a cross. So the threads are always
laying or hanging straight down without twist. Easy to sea. Also when you are
making point lace or torchon, when some stitches end with 1 twist, another
with 2 and the tulle stitch with 3 twists. Using the open method there is no
need to check if you made all the twists needed for the stitch because you
make them at the beginning of the stitch. This method works on a roller pillow
as well as on a cooky pillow.

So switch from one technique to another without changing your method of bobbin
lace making.

Gon Homburg, Amsterdam, The Netherlands



> Op 25 nov. 2020, om 05:56 heeft Robin K Panza  het
volgende geschreven:
>
> Much of the time it is easy to switch to a different technique, but not
always.  Many of the European bobbin laces share the same basic techniques.
Half stitch is C, T; US whole stitch is C, T, C, T; and cloth stitch is C, T,
C.  But Skansk Knipling is different:  HS = T, C and USWS = T, C, T, C; the
hands fight to start those with crosses because of muscle memory.

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[lace] Speed and co-operative lace

2020-11-25 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

One fact has so far been neglected and that is the difference in speed between
working a new patterns and familiar ones. Having to constantly cope with
techniques instead of repeating the same ones. The lace teachers of the past
insisted that a yard (metre) had to be made of every new pattern so that the
lacemaker would become so familiar with it that it became automatic and she
could go on auto-pilot.

Although I make no effort to work fast I get the same joy of experience
working with my hands and having the experience of seeming to block out other
stimuli but it comes not only from making lace but also from the activity of
puzzling out what to do next.

Regarding group projects, this idea is not new, they have been around since
the early days of lacemaking. I have three pieces of early Honiton lace They
are about the same width, two of them have joins. In one the two pieces are of
different design. The other has two pieces of the same design but it looks
like they were made by different lacemakers. The lace is very fine, finer than
240/2 Egyptian cotton, and even when made at speed would have taken a long
time to make. At this rate the lacemaker could not have afforded to make much
lace before she had to cut it off to sell it and therefore the pieces would
have frequent joins and several lacemakers would have made the same design so
they could be joined into one piece having the same design throughout. Many
Honiton lacemakers would have each made only one design and become very
speedy. Then the pieces from many lacemakers would have been used to make a
larger item, a collar or a wedding veil, and a skilled joiner would have
joined the motifs together for a collar or mounted them on net for a veil.
Many Honiton collars show a variety of motifs and often the repeated motifs
look like they were made by different lacemakers. Many collars look as though
a handful of mixes designs had been placed together, the two sides of the
collar not being the same. Some motifs are in the same place on the two sides
while in other places, although the motifs are the same size and taking the
same space, they are of different design.

Enjoy your lace at whatever speed suits you

Alex

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