Re: [lace] No News, here is some

2016-05-05 Thread Yahoo!
Catherine Barley Needlelace
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Subject : [lace] No News, here is some

Your visa is beautiful Janice and well worthy of a place!  However, looking 
forward to seeing your needlelace dragonfly. 

Catherine Barley
Henley-on-Thames, UK where we are at last enjoying some beautiful warm 
sunshine, more like Summer than Spring!


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Re: [lace] Admin

2016-03-24 Thread Yahoo!
Good morning Avital and fellow spiders

I've just checked my 'Spam' box this morning and every one of my emails have 
appeared there and all have come through Yahoo!  I have no idea how this has 
happened as my server is btinternet and I have nothing whatsoever to do with 
Yahoo!  The first email I sent to Arachne came through my btinternet mail box 
okay, which is how I knew it was incomplete and that the lengthy email from 
Julie which I had deleted/trimmed was still there!  However, all subsequent 
emails which I expected to see in my mail box, decided for some unknown reason, 
to take the scenic route to my 'Spam' folder  Jeri's email always go to my 
'Spam' box but that's not a problem, as I check it every day.  Thank all for 
your tolerance and also for the numerous replies from you all but I think we 
can now close the discussion on my frustration/incompetence.

Happy Easter and happy lacemaking to you all.

Catherine
 
Catherine Barley Needlelace
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[lace] Help

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
Please can someone tell me if the last THREE emails I have sent to Arachne have 
come through, as they have not appeared in my mailbox, only my 'Sent' box?  If 
they have appeared 3 times, please accept my sincere apologies as I think I'm 
losing my marbles!
Catherine Barley Needlelace
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[lace] APOLOGIES!!! THREADS FOR HOLLIE POINT

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR THE PREVIOUS EMAIL WHICH APPEARED WITH
ONLY HALF OF MY REPLY.  I DID DELETE THE WHOLE OF JULIE'S LENGTHY EMAIL SO
DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.  I'VE GOT A NEW LAPTOP AND AM STILL LEARNING
HOW TO HAVIGATE MY WAY AROUND WINDOWS 10!  I CAN ONLY APLOGISE ONCE AGAIN FOR
MY INCOMPETENCE.
Original message
>From : catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Date :
To : jsyz...@comcast.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject : Re: [lace] thread for Hollie Point
Hi Julie
Well as you've already discovered, choice of thread for any type/style of lace
is very personal and what suits one person is no necessarily the choice of
another. Brenda Paternoster is the accepted expert on threads and if you don't
already have a copy of her invaluable little book 'Threads for Lace', I would
recommend that you get hold of a copy as soon as you can. Threads are
continually going out of production and as I worked the sample in my book with
a No 120 Copley Marshall thread that was no longer available by the time my
book was published, I suggested either a Brok cotton 160 or Egyptian cotton
120 which would give a similar result. Bearing in mind that my book was first
published in 1993, I have recently been informed by several UK lace suppliers
that Brok cotton is no longer being manufactured, so Egyptian cotton No 120 is
the recommended thread for this particular sample.
Hollie point was usually only found in baby clothing i.e bonnets or 'vests'
which presumably is why it was worked in such fine thread, as a thicker gauge
of thread would have produced a larger sample, too big to incorporate into the
crown or back of a baby bonnet or shoulders of a 'vest'. Dates were also
frequently incorporated into these works and you will notice that my pattern
No 3 also includes the date 1991! I worked this piece of Hollie Point 25 years
ago and even then I needed magnification to work it. For this very reason, I
agree with Devon that whilst most forms of needlelace are portable, Hollie
Point is not one that I would like to carry in my handbag as one needs
absolute concentration to work this very fine exacting type of lace, enabling
the worker to continually count the number of stitches required to make the
pattern work correctly and probably magnification of some kind. I would
compare it more towards the working of Filet crochet lace where the pattern is
formed by voiding (holes), rather than cross stitch, where the pattern is
formed by changes in colour of threads.
Cotton is also the most practical thread to use, rather than silk, because we
all know that baby clothes need frequent washing (sometimes boiling), as they
are naturally messy little souls and of course Gutermann 100/3 silk thread or
any other silk thread, would not be a wise choice for Hollie Point. The
Freesia No 15 needles of course are no longer available either but I use a
Sharps No 10 or No 12 for the fine net background in my Point de Gaze, which
incidentally is worked using the same twisted buttonhole stitch as the Hollie
Point and I use both Brok and Egyptian cotton for this purpose.
Hollie Point is not quite as simple as it might first appear, which is why
pattern No 1 is just a diamond within a diamond, within a diamond and worked
in a No 20 crochet cotton, making it easy for the worker to see what she is
doing by using a thicker thread and also to hopefully understand the necessity
to count the stitches required to produce the holes/voids in the correct
position. I know that most workers new to Hollie Point think that its easy
because one just makes a hole to either the left or right of the hole in the
previous row, but if one doesn't count the number of stitches between these
holes/voids, it is easy to have made a mistake by not working sufficient
STITCHES, resulting in too few LOOPS in the following row! Not all patterns
are diamonds, some are flowers in pots etc and one doesn't simply work a hole
to either the left or right of the one above, but needs to know how to work
these more complicated patterns and one can't do that if one doesn't
understand that it is necessary to make TWO STICHES into a void to form a LOOP
for the following row. Having worked this sample all those years ago, I have
never had the desire to work another!
Happy stitching
Catherine
www.catherinebarley.com
Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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[lace] APOLOGIES!!! Threads for Hollie Point?

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLGIES FOR THE PREVIOUS EMAIL WHICH WAS ONLY HALF
COMPLETE AND I DID DELETE ALL OF JULIE'S LENGTHY EMAIL BUT DON'T KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED THERE!  I HAVE COPIED AND PASTED MY REPLY FROM MY 'SENT' BOX' WHICH
IS HOW I EXPECTD IT TO ARRIVE ON ARACHNE.  I CAN ONLY APOLOGISE ONCE AGAIN.
Catherine
Original message
>From : catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Date :
To : jsyz...@comcast.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject : Re: [lace] thread for Hollie Point
Hi Julie
Well as you've already discovered, choice of thread for any type/style of lace
is very personal and what suits one person is no necessarily the choice of
another. Brenda Paternoster is the accepted expert on threads and if you don't
already have a copy of her invaluable little book 'Threads for Lace', I would
recommend that you get hold of a copy as soon as you can. Threads are
continually going out of production and as I worked the sample in my book with
a No 120 Copley Marshall thread that was no longer available by the time my
book was published, I suggested either a Brok cotton 160 or Egyptian cotton
120 which would give a similar result. Bearing in mind that my book was first
published in 1993, I have recently been informed by several UK lace suppliers
that Brok cotton is no longer being manufactured, so Egyptian cotton No 120 is
the recommended thread for this particular sample.
Hollie point was usually only found in baby clothing i.e bonnets or 'vests'
which presumably is why it was worked in such fine thread, as a thicker gauge
of thread would have produced a larger sample, too big to incorporate into the
crown or back of a baby bonnet or shoulders of a 'vest'. Dates were also
frequently incorporated into these works and you will notice that my pattern
No 3 also includes the date 1991! I worked this piece of Hollie Point 25 years
ago and even then I needed magnification to work it. For this very reason, I
agree with Devon that whilst most forms of needlelace are portable, Hollie
Point is not one that I would like to carry in my handbag as one needs
absolute concentration to work this very fine exacting type of lace, enabling
the worker to continually count the number of stitches required to make the
pattern work correctly and probably magnification of some kind. I would
compare it more towards the working of Filet crochet lace where the pattern is
formed by voiding (holes), rather than cross stitch, where the pattern is
formed by changes in colour of threads.
Cotton is also the most practical thread to use, rather than silk, because we
all know that baby clothes need frequent washing (sometimes boiling), as they
are naturally messy little souls and of course Gutermann 100/3 silk thread or
any other silk thread, would not be a wise choice for Hollie Point. The
Freesia No 15 needles of course are no longer available either but I use a
Sharps No 10 or No 12 for the fine net background in my Point de Gaze, which
incidentally is worked using the same twisted buttonhole stitch as the Hollie
Point and I use both Brok and Egyptian cotton for this purpose.
Hollie Point is not quite as simple as it might first appear, which is why
pattern No 1 is just a diamond within a diamond, within a diamond and worked
in a No 20 crochet cotton, making it easy for the worker to see what she is
doing by using a thicker thread and also to hopefully understand the necessity
to count the stitches required to produce the holes/voids in the correct
position. I know that most workers new to Hollie Point think that its easy
because one just makes a hole to either the left or right of the hole in the
previous row, but if one doesn't count the number of stitches between these
holes/voids, it is easy to have made a mistake by not working sufficient
STITCHES, resulting in too few LOOPS in the following row! Not all patterns
are diamonds, some are flowers in pots etc and one doesn't simply work a hole
to either the left or right of the one above, but needs to know how to work
these more complicated patterns and one can't do that if one doesn't
understand that it is necessary to make TWO STICHES into a void to form a LOOP
for the following row. Having worked this sample all those years ago, I have
never had the desire to work another!
Happy stitching
Catherine
www.catherinebarley.com


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[lace] APOLOGIES!!!!! Threads for Hollie Point

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLGIES AS I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE  I
DID DELETE THE WHOLE OF JULIE'S LENGHTY EMAIL AND ONLY PART OF MY REPLY
APPEARED TOO, SO AM SENDING AGAIN AS IT APPEARS IN MY 'sent items' BOX.  I CAN
ONLY APOLOGISE ONCE AGAIN AND HOPE THAT THIS TIME IT WILL ARRIV AS INTEDED!
Catherine
Original message
>From : catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Date :
To : jsyz...@comcast.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject : Re: [lace] thread for Hollie Point
Hi Julie
Well as you've already discovered, choice of thread for any type/style of lace
is very personal and what suits one person is no necessarily the choice of
another. Brenda Paternoster is the accepted expert on threads and if you don't
already have a copy of her invaluable little book 'Threads for Lace', I would
recommend that you get hold of a copy as soon as you can. Threads are
continually going out of production and as I worked the sample in my book with
a No 120 Copley Marshall thread that was no longer available by the time my
book was published, I suggested either a Brok cotton 160 or Egyptian cotton
120 which would give a similar result. Bearing in mind that my book was first
published in 1993, I have recently been informed by several UK lace suppliers
that Brok cotton is no longer being manufactured, so Egyptian cotton No 120 is
the recommended thread for this particular sample.
Hollie point was usually only found in baby clothing i.e bonnets or 'vests'
which presumably is why it was worked in such fine thread, as a thicker gauge
of thread would have produced a larger sample, too big to incorporate into the
crown or back of a baby bonnet or shoulders of a 'vest'. Dates were also
frequently incorporated into these works and you will notice that my pattern
No 3 also includes the date 1991! I worked this piece of Hollie Point 25 years
ago and even then I needed magnification to work it. For this very reason, I
agree with Devon that whilst most forms of needlelace are portable, Hollie
Point is not one that I would like to carry in my handbag as one needs
absolute concentration to work this very fine exacting type of lace, enabling
the worker to continually count the number of stitches required to make the
pattern work correctly and probably magnification of some kind. I would
compare it more towards the working of Filet crochet lace where the pattern is
formed by voiding (holes), rather than cross stitch, where the pattern is
formed by changes in colour of threads.
Cotton is also the most practical thread to use, rather than silk, because we
all know that baby clothes need frequent washing (sometimes boiling), as they
are naturally messy little souls and of course Gutermann 100/3 silk thread or
any other silk thread, would not be a wise choice for Hollie Point. The
Freesia No 15 needles of course are no longer available either but I use a
Sharps No 10 or No 12 for the fine net background in my Point de Gaze, which
incidentally is worked using the same twisted buttonhole stitch as the Hollie
Point and I use both Brok and Egyptian cotton for this purpose.
Hollie Point is not quite as simple as it might first appear, which is why
pattern No 1 is just a diamond within a diamond, within a diamond and worked
in a No 20 crochet cotton, making it easy for the worker to see what she is
doing by using a thicker thread and also to hopefully understand the necessity
to count the stitches required to produce the holes/voids in the correct
position. I know that most workers new to Hollie Point think that its easy
because one just makes a hole to either the left or right of the hole in the
previous row, but if one doesn't count the number of stitches between these
holes/voids, it is easy to have made a mistake by not working sufficient
STITCHES, resulting in too few LOOPS in the following row! Not all patterns
are diamonds, some are flowers in pots etc and one doesn't simply work a hole
to either the left or right of the one above, but needs to know how to work
these more complicated patterns and one can't do that if one doesn't
understand that it is necessary to make TWO STICHES into a void to form a LOOP
for the following row. Having worked this sample all those years ago, I have
never had the desire to work another!
Happy stitching
Catherine
www.catherinnebarley.com

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Fwd: [lace] thread for Hollie Point

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

Original message
>From : catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Date : 23/03/2016 - 08:35 (GMTST)
To : lace@arachne.com
Subject : Fwd: [lace] thread for Hollie Point

WELL HERE'S THE EMAIL I'M FORWARDING FROM MY 'sent items' WHICH IS THE ONE I 
THOUGHT YOU WOULD ALL RECEIVE!  I have no idea what happened and can only 
apologise once again.

Catherine

Original message
>From : catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Date : 
To : jsyz...@comcast.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject : Re: [lace] thread for Hollie Point

Hi Julie

Well as you've already discovered, choice of thread for any type/style of lace 
is very personal and what suits one person is no necessarily the choice of 
another.  Brenda Paternoster is the accepted expert on threads and if you don't 
already have a copy of her invaluable little book 'Threads for Lace', I would 
recommend that you get hold of a copy as soon as you can.  Threads are 
continually going out of production and as I worked the sample in my book with 
a No 120 Copley Marshall thread that was no longer available by the time my 
book was published, I suggested either a Brok cotton 160 or Egyptian cotton 120 
which would give a similar result.  Bearing in mind that my book was first 
published in 1993, I have recently been informed by several UK lace suppliers 
that Brok cotton is no longer being manufactured, so Egyptian cotton No 120 is 
the recommended thread for this particular sample.

Hollie point was usually only found in baby clothing i.e bonnets or 'vests' 
which presumably is why it was worked in such fine thread, as a thicker gauge 
of thread would have produced a larger sample, too big to incorporate into the 
crown or back of a baby bonnet or shoulders of a 'vest'.  Dates were also 
frequently incorporated into these works and you will notice that my pattern No 
3 also includes the date 1991!  I worked this piece of Hollie Point 25 years 
ago and even then I needed magnification to work it.  For this very reason, I 
agree with Devon that whilst most forms of needlelace are portable, Hollie 
Point is not one that I would like to carry in my handbag as one needs absolute 
concentration to work this very fine exacting type of lace, enabling the worker 
to continually count the number of stitches required to make the pattern work 
correctly and probably magnification of some kind.  I would compare it more 
towards the working of Filet crochet lace where the patter!
 n is formed by voiding (holes), rather than cross stitch, where the pattern is 
formed by changes in colour of threads.

Cotton is also the most practical thread to use, rather than silk, because we 
all know that baby clothes need frequent washing (sometimes boiling), as they 
are naturally messy little souls and of course Gutermann 100/3 silk thread or 
any other silk thread, would not be a wise choice for  Hollie Point.  The 
Freesia No 15 needles of course are no longer available either but I use a 
Sharps No 10 or No 12 for the fine net background in my Point de Gaze, which 
incidentally is worked using the same twisted buttonhole stitch as the Hollie 
Point and I use both Brok and Egyptian cotton for this purpose.

Hollie Point is not quite as simple as it might first appear, which is why 
pattern No 1 is just a diamond within a diamond, within a diamond and worked in 
a No 20 crochet cotton, making it easy for the worker to see what she is doing 
by using a thicker thread and also to hopefully understand the necessity to 
count the stitches required to produce the holes/voids in the correct position. 
 I know that most workers new to Hollie Point think that its easy because one 
just makes a hole to either the left or right of the hole in the previous row, 
but if one doesn't count the number of stitches between these holes/voids, it 
is easy to have made a mistake by not working sufficient STITCHES, resulting in 
too few LOOPS in the following row!   Not all patterns are diamonds, some are 
flowers in pots etc and one doesn't simply work a hole to either the left or 
right of the one above, but needs to know how to work these more complicated 
patterns and one can't do that if one doesn't unders!
 tand that it is necessary to make TWO STICHES into a void to form a LOOP for 
the following row.  Having worked this sample all those years ago, I have never 
had the desire to work another!

Happy stitching

Catherine Barley
www.catherinebarley.com

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[lace] APOLOGIES!!!!

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
Oh dear I'm so sorry.  I just don't know what has happened here as I did delete 
the whole of Julie's lengthy email about threads for Hollie Point and only half 
of my reply has appeared in my mail box!  Please accept my sincere apologies 
for this error and I hope the correct complete email that has taken me ages to 
type, will appear.  I have a new lap top and am still trying to navigate my way 
around Windows 10!
Catherine 
Catherine Barley Needlelace
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Fwd: [lace] thread for Hollie Point

2016-03-23 Thread Yahoo!
Original message
>From : catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Date : 
To : jsyz...@comcast.net, lace@arachne.com
Subject : Re: [lace] thread for Hollie Point

Hi Julie

Well as you've already discovered, choice of thread for any type/style of lace 
is very personal and what suits one person is no necessarily the choice of 
another.  Brenda Paternoster is the accepted expert on threads and if you don't 
already have a copy of her invaluable little book 'Threads for Lace', I would 
recommend that you get hold of a copy as soon as you can.  Threads are 
continually going out of production and as I worked the sample in my book with 
a No 120 Copley Marshall thread that was no longer available by the time my 
book was published, I suggested either a Brok cotton 160 or Egyptian cotton 120 
which would give a similar result.  Bearing in mind that my book was first 
published in 1993, I have recently been informed by several UK lace suppliers 
that Brok cotton is no longer being manufactured, so Egyptian cotton No 120 is 
the recommended thread for this particular sample.

Hollie point was usually only found in baby clothing i.e bonnets or 'vests' 
which presumably is why it was worked in such fine thread, as a thicker gauge 
of thread would have produced a larger sample, too big to incorporate into the 
crown or back of a baby bonnet or shoulders of a 'vest'.  Dates were also 
frequently incorporated into these works and you will notice that my pattern No 
3 also includes the date 1991!  I worked this piece of Hollie Point 25 years 
ago and even then I needed magnification to work it.  For this very reason, I 
agree with Devon that whilst most forms of needlelace are portable, Hollie 
Point is not one that I would like to carry in my handbag as one needs absolute 
concentration to work this very fine exacting type of lace, enabling the worker 
to continually count the number of stitches required to make the pattern work 
correctly and probably magnification of some kind.  I would compare it more 
towards the working of Filet crochet lace where the patter!
 n is formed by voiding (holes), rather than cross stitch, where the pattern is 
formed by changes in colour of threads.

Cotton is also the most practical thread to use, rather than silk, because we 
all know that baby clothes need frequent washing (sometimes boiling), as they 
are naturally messy little souls and of course Gutermann 100/3 silk thread or 
any other silk thread, would not be a wise choice for  Hollie Point.  The 
Freesia No 15 needles of course are no longer available either but I use a 
Sharps No 10 or No 12 for the fine net background in my Point de Gaze, which 
incidentally is worked using the same twisted buttonhole stitch as the Hollie 
Point and I use both Brok and Egyptian cotton for this purpose.

Hollie Point is not quite as simple as it might first appear, which is why 
pattern No 1 is just a diamond within a diamond, within a diamond and worked in 
a No 20 crochet cotton, making it easy for the worker to see what she is doing 
by using a thicker thread and also to hopefully understand the necessity to 
count the stitches required to produce the holes/voids in the correct position. 
 I know that most workers new to Hollie Point think that its easy because one 
just makes a hole to either the left or right of the hole in the previous row, 
but if one doesn't count the number of stitches between these holes/voids, it 
is easy to have made a mistake by not working sufficient STITCHES, resulting in 
too few LOOPS in the following row!   Not all patterns are diamonds, some are 
flowers in pots etc and one doesn't simply work a hole to either the left or 
right of the one above, but needs to know how to work these more complicated 
patterns and one can't do that if one doesn't unders!
 tand that it is necessary to make TWO STICHES into a void to form a LOOP for 
the following row.  Having worked this sample all those years ago, I have never 
had the desire to work another!

Happy stitching

Catherine Barley
www.catherinebarley.com

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Re: [lace] Quiet list

2016-02-26 Thread Yahoo!
I'm hoping it's just quiet because I'm not getting any either!

Catherine Barley
UK

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

Subject : [lace] Quiet list

Is the list very quiet or am I just not getting mail?

Ann
UK

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[lace] Annette Meldrum

2016-02-09 Thread Yahoo!
Annette Meldrum
If you're reading this Annette,  could you please contact me privately as I'm 
trying to email Marie Laurie, but my emails have bounced back this morning.  
Perhaps she has changed her email address and not let me know?
Many thanks
Catherine
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