Re: [lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!
Sorry, not Tafel 29 (Plate 29), but Figure 29 (Abb. 29), item b -- p. 119 of the PDF. And Levey's quote below refers to bobbin lace, which I've not found an example of. The items I'm identifying as lace are needlelace. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:27 PM, N.A. Neff wrote: > I think Levey might have overlooked something. The German text > specifically says that Tafel 29, item b, was done without a ground fabric. > > Nancy > Connecticut, USA > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Devon Thein wrote: > >> ..."but for the remains of some fragments of the ground material, could >> be taken for primitive bobbin lace." So, I guess [Levey] is characterizing >> these interesting fragments as embroideries that have lost their fabric. >> > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!
I think Levey might have overlooked something. The German text specifically says that Tafel 29, item b, was done without a ground fabric. Nancy Connecticut, USA On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Devon Thein wrote: > ..."but for the remains of some fragments of the ground material, could be > taken for primitive bobbin lace." So, I guess she is characterizing these > interesting fragments as embroideries that have lost their fabric. > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!
Another interesting find is looping that looks like needle lace in the prehistoric American Southwest. The article found here: https://www.archaeologysouthwest.org/pdf/pecos2008_webster.pdf has a diagram on page 13 which could well be found in a needle lace book and photos of bags on p. 14 in this technique. Santina Levey on p. 5 of Lace, a History makes the point that various techniques, decorated edges, surface decoration, decorated seams and passamenterie existed, and "There was no moment at which any of the above techniques either changed into or were replaced by lace. Gradually, however, during the second quarter of the sixteenth century, changing tastes in trimmings and embroidery resulted in the exaggeration of certain effects: in particular, greater emphasis was placed on decorated seams and edgings while elaborate white embroidery and fancy open-work braids formed an increasingly important part of surface decoration. Needle and bobbin lace began to emerge in response to these demands but it was a long time before they were seen to have become separated from the older techniques and, because their origins lay with different technical groupings, they did not at first resemble one another sufficiently closely to be called by the same name." Incidentally, Levey refers to Birka and this exact publication in the sentence before this paragraph. " The lace-like effect of interlaced faggot stitch can be seen in Swiss and German white embroideries of the fifteenth century and also in the excavated fragments from the ninth-century site at Birka in Sweden which, but for the remains of some fragments of the ground material, could be taken for primitive bobbin lace." So, I guess she is characterizing these interesting fragments as embroideries that have lost their fabric. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!
Very interesting pictures. While dreaming of Viking needlelace, don't forget nalbinding, which is the Viking version of knitting, done with a needle and thread. As presently constituted at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland, at least, it replaces knitting, but could conceivably be more lace like, depending on the size of the thread and loops. I am taking a class at the Rhinebeck NY Sheep and Wool in Viking knitting, but it's nalbinding. You end up with a bracelet, a rather open weave. Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, presently in Brussels "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails." >Also look at the plates in the back of the monograph, especially plates 31 >and 32. > >On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM, N.A. Neff wrote: > >> ...The monograph on the textiles has been digitized and is on line: >> http://historiska.se/birka/digitala-resurser/filer/pdf/Birka_III.pdf >> - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!
Also look at the plates in the back of the monograph, especially plates 31 and 32. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM, N.A. Neff wrote: > ...The monograph on the textiles has been digitized and is on line: > http://historiska.se/birka/digitala-resurser/filer/pdf/Birka_III.pdf > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
