Re: [lace] Sewing Out
While we are on the topic of sewing out, I'd like to ask a question. When ending a project, I tie a square knot and sometimes another knot, so there are 3 half hitches, with each pair, as I've read that is what should be done. The knots have length to them, though I want them to be snug to the piece and invisible. Each half hitch makes a longer tail. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong? Jean Reardon, Mercer PA Where at least it isn't as hot as D.C. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sewing Out
Hi, I have been using fray check for nearly 40 years but as Joepie says, do a double knot on each pair. Dip a pin in the Fray check bottle and just touch the middle of each knot individually. Leave strictly alone, about 30 minutes, before touching it. My lace was going out to up to 31 shows ( Bigginslace) a year and not one piece has discoloured. Vivienne > On 15 Aug 2016, at 20:11, J-D Hammett <jdhamm...@msn.com> wrote: > > Hi fellow Arachnids, > > Any glue /head cement (whatever that is) or other chemical compounds should > not be used on lace that you want to treasure for a long time. It will stain > your lace The tiniest bit of a glue such as Fray Check picked up on the end of > a pin might just be used on the knots of lace which will be used and washed > regularly (such as lace on a T-shirt). > > Please try to learn to knot off properly and where necessary and it is at all > possible sew the threads back into the lace. > > In very fine laces the threads from bobbins taken out in densely worked areas > can frequently be just thrown out and later cut close without even knotting > it. > > Joepie, Sussex, UK > > > > From: Bev Walker<mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com> > Sent: 15 August 2016 19:07 > To: Dan Brooks<mailto:calt...@yahoo.com> > Cc: Lace<mailto:lace@arachne.com> > Subject: Re: [lace] Sewing Out > > Hello Dan and everyone > > I'd say give it a try! There are water-based as well as the lacquer-based > head cements, yes? > Ether way, I don't think very much is needed to secure the thread end, the > tiniest of dabs, and shouldn't affect the rest of the lace. > > Other items used in fly-tying and -fishing that are handy for lacemaking > include - > - hackle pliers to grab a very short thread end, such as when a bobbin > thread breaks and we need to tie in a new thread > - leader line for an excellent reusable magic thread,a sewing out aid in > itself > - the fly tying vice for a third hand when required > - monofilament instead of wire for spangling > and > - I like the tools for dealing with split rings when making markers for > knitting > > This just might be the solution (pun intended) to the joins coming apart in > a large lace ornament I made. > off to raid someone's fly-tying kit (again) > > Why not use head cement after tying the knot? >> . >> Thoughts? > -- > Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of > Canada > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Sewing Out
Hi fellow Arachnids, Any glue /head cement (whatever that is) or other chemical compounds should not be used on lace that you want to treasure for a long time. It will stain your lace The tiniest bit of a glue such as Fray Check picked up on the end of a pin might just be used on the knots of lace which will be used and washed regularly (such as lace on a T-shirt). Please try to learn to knot off properly and where necessary and it is at all possible sew the threads back into the lace. In very fine laces the threads from bobbins taken out in densely worked areas can frequently be just thrown out and later cut close without even knotting it. Joepie, Sussex, UK From: Bev Walker<mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com> Sent: 15 August 2016 19:07 To: Dan Brooks<mailto:calt...@yahoo.com> Cc: Lace<mailto:lace@arachne.com> Subject: Re: [lace] Sewing Out Hello Dan and everyone I'd say give it a try! There are water-based as well as the lacquer-based head cements, yes? Ether way, I don't think very much is needed to secure the thread end, the tiniest of dabs, and shouldn't affect the rest of the lace. Other items used in fly-tying and -fishing that are handy for lacemaking include - - hackle pliers to grab a very short thread end, such as when a bobbin thread breaks and we need to tie in a new thread - leader line for an excellent reusable magic thread,a sewing out aid in itself - the fly tying vice for a third hand when required - monofilament instead of wire for spangling and - I like the tools for dealing with split rings when making markers for knitting This just might be the solution (pun intended) to the joins coming apart in a large lace ornament I made. off to raid someone's fly-tying kit (again) Why not use head cement after tying the knot? > . > Thoughts? > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sewing Out
Hello Dan and everyone I'd say give it a try! There are water-based as well as the lacquer-based head cements, yes? Ether way, I don't think very much is needed to secure the thread end, the tiniest of dabs, and shouldn't affect the rest of the lace. Other items used in fly-tying and -fishing that are handy for lacemaking include - - hackle pliers to grab a very short thread end, such as when a bobbin thread breaks and we need to tie in a new thread - leader line for an excellent reusable magic thread,a sewing out aid in itself - the fly tying vice for a third hand when required - monofilament instead of wire for spangling and - I like the tools for dealing with split rings when making markers for knitting This just might be the solution (pun intended) to the joins coming apart in a large lace ornament I made. off to raid someone's fly-tying kit (again) Why not use head cement after tying the knot? > . > Thoughts? > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Sewing Out
I’d be a worried that the oil in this head cement would penetrate the lace further than the spot where you put it. Oil changes the colour of natural fibres - I’ve damaged dozens of T-shirts when a small drop of oil turned into a nickel-sized stain! You can scrub a T-shirt and use stain removers on it, but that sort of heavy intervention would damage lace. Plus I don’t want hard spots here and there in my lace. I’ve never seen head cement, but it doesn’t sound soft and pliable to me. When I first started lacemaking, and was using thicker threads, I would put a dab of fabric glue on each knot. Those dabs, though the glue was advertised as clear and non-staining, turned deep amber colour within a couple of years. I no longer use anything on my lace that won’t rinse out. Usually by the time a lacemaker is making the finer laces where threads are added and taken out, they have absolutely no problem with ends. There are many techniques - you can run them into dense cloth stitch and then just clip close to the surface, you can run them for a while with the gimp and then clip off - there are whole books devoted to these tricks! Hope this helps. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > Why not use head cement after tying the knot? ... > > … I can see where this might not be necessary with a five pair tape lace, but > it > certainly might be nice with some of the more complex high pair count laces, > especially with those that require frequent adding and removing of additional > pairs throughout the work. > > Thoughts? > > Dan in DC being parboiled daily. > calt...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
