Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Lin Hudren]

i live in the desert in southern Nevada USA and at the most humid we get to
about 45%.  we only get 12" of rain each year (mostly within two months).
 storing threads like linen (and cotton) is a challenge so i mostly use
silk and when i need the others, i only order what i need so i don't have
to "store" too much.  i have not had any difficulty with cotton so far and
the silk seems to "not care".  i think the advice for wrapping is awesome.
 we have grit from the winds stirring the grit from the area is a
troublesome consideration for me.  i like plastic bags for protection from
this, but they rot easily and have to be replaced.  in the dryer climes, i
just open the bags up for a month and replace them.  this might not compare
to your area.


Hugs, Lin and the Mali

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Brenda Paternoster]

That’s a lot dryer than UK - we are 70%-90% relative humidity.

A fine mist of water into the atmosphere around the cabinet, not directly onto
the linen, from time to time should help especially in the drier/summer
months.

Acid free tape and an acid free marker sound fine to me.

Brenda

> On 14 Nov 2016, at 10:01, Joseph Young 
wrote:
>
> I live in South Australia.
> We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt
know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp.
>
> I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It
will fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in.
>
> How should i mark the outer of the tissue? Use 3m acid free tape and acid
free marker?
>
> Thanks Brenda, I feel very special being able to talk to you.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Joseph
>
>
> "The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton
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> On 14 Nov 2016, at 8:15 PM, Brenda Paternoster > wrote:
>
>> We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.
>>
>> What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that
i
>> can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?
>>
>> At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
>> thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.
>>
>
> What sort of climate do you live in.
>
> Where I am in UK dryness, especially on days like today when it’s just
drizzling rain all the time, looking after linen is no problem, but if you are
in a desert …… Yes a cabinet in the bathroom would be a good option.  Wrap
the spools loosely in acid free tissue, but allow the air to circulate, maybe
open the drawer when the room is steamy, and don’t seal the linen into
polythene bags.
>
> Brenda in Allhallows
> paternos...@appleshack.com 
> www.brendapaternoster.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>

Brenda in Allhallows
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www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Tregellas Family]

Hi Joseph,

As you know I live in Adelaide and we have an extremely dry climate with 
quite low humidity.  This is fatal when using linen threads in our 
summer as they tend to just disintegrate very quickly.   I refrain from 
using linen threads during our summer months.


Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  hope you are improving now and sorry we won't see you at 
the Lace House until next year.






On 14-Nov-16 8:31 PM, Joseph Young wrote:

I live in South Australia.
We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt 
know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp.

I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It will 
fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in.

How should i mark the outer of the tissue? Use 3m acid free tape and acid free 
marker?

Thanks Brenda, I feel very special being able to talk to you.


--
Regards,
Joseph


"The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain." 
-Dolly Parton

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On 14 Nov 2016, at 8:15 PM, Brenda Paternoster 
> wrote:

We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.

What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i
can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?

At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.

What sort of climate do you live in.

Where I am in UK dryness, especially on days like today when it’s just 
drizzling rain all the time, looking after linen is no problem, but if you are 
in a desert …… Yes a cabinet in the bathroom would be a good option.  Wrap 
the spools loosely in acid free tissue, but allow the air to circulate, maybe 
open the drawer when the room is steamy, and don’t seal the linen into 
polythene bags.

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk







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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

I live in South Australia.
We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt 
know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp.

I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It will 
fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in.

How should i mark the outer of the tissue? Use 3m acid free tape and acid free 
marker?

Thanks Brenda, I feel very special being able to talk to you.


--
Regards,
Joseph


"The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain." 
-Dolly Parton

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On 14 Nov 2016, at 8:15 PM, Brenda Paternoster 
> wrote:

We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.

What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i
can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?

At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.

What sort of climate do you live in.

Where I am in UK dryness, especially on days like today when it’s just 
drizzling rain all the time, looking after linen is no problem, but if you are 
in a desert …… Yes a cabinet in the bathroom would be a good option.  Wrap 
the spools loosely in acid free tissue, but allow the air to circulate, maybe 
open the drawer when the room is steamy, and don’t seal the linen into 
polythene bags.

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk







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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Brenda Paternoster]

> We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.
>
> What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that
i
> can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?
>
> At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
> thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.
>

What sort of climate do you live in.

Where I am in UK dryness, especially on days like today when it’s just
drizzling rain all the time, looking after linen is no problem, but if you are
in a desert …… Yes a cabinet in the bathroom would be a good option.  Wrap
the spools loosely in acid free tissue, but allow the air to circulate, maybe
open the drawer when the room is steamy, and don’t seal the linen into
polythene bags.

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

Thanks for your reply.

I am looking at buying Freesia Linen and Bocken's Linen, I am open to any
recommendations for other linen threads.

We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement.

What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i
can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage?

At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the
thread. I think that would be my best option at this stage.


--
Regards,
Joseph


"The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Jeriames]

Dear Joseph,
 
A couple years ago, I heard from someone with a museum lace collection that 
 they had determined that some varieties of Acid Free tissue were  drying.  
And so, they were changing their procedures.  Perhaps  Devon can share some 
light on the subject.
 
The other thing to consider is whether the thread is wound on some kind of  
paper product.  I say this, because years ago they might have  used 
cardboard made from rags (cloth).  However, today, manufacturers  are not 
always 
aware, and do not think of such things.  A wood product  would introduce acid 
into the thread.
 
Perhaps you should tell us the name of the thread manufacturer, and then  
Brenda will know more about it.  If there is a paper label, remove it, and  
place it in a fold of whatever you are using to wrap the thread.  Do not  
leave it on the thread.
 
I think that I might use a well-rinsed (of all bleaches and soaps) linen  
towel as the wrap.  

The main thing is to not let linen get too dry, or it will break.  It  is 
compatible with water from the retting process, but once you put it  in home 
storage, it should still be checked from time to time.  

 
And, as with all storage of lace - right now - write on your annual  
calendar to check the condition of the thread 2 times a year (Summer and  
Winter). 
 This needs to be transferred to the new calendar every year, just  like 
you may make notes about birthdays.  I've recommended 2 times a  year, because 
the home's atmosphere is different then.
 
Never store linen/lace in an attic or basement.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
 
In a message dated 11/9/2016 6:47:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
graceadlerdesi...@outlook.com writes:

We don't live in a centrally heated  house, so that's not a problem.

I can install a small ventilated cabinet  in the bathroom if need be. I was 
more thinking about some sort of  humidor.

I have some Acid-Free tissue on order at the  moment.Regards, Joseph

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Joseph Young]

Thank you Brenda,

We don't live in a centrally heated house, so that's not a problem.

I can install a small ventilated cabinet in the bathroom if need be. I was more 
thinking about some sort of humidor.

I have some Acid-Free tissue on order at the moment.

Thanks again.

--
Regards,
Joseph


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-Dolly Parton

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Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

[Brenda Paternoster]

>
> I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture
and the while concept of a fiber that you can grow (other than cotton and the
likes). I do know that linen threads store really well, but are difficult to
store.

Like any textile fibre linen is best stored in the dark.  It also does not
like being too dry, so don’t keep it in a centrally heated atmosphere.  A
ventilated cupboard in the bathroom, or a steamy kitchen, would be good - but
not if t gets contaminated with food!

I daresay Jeri will add something about ensuring that for long term storage
it’s wrapped in acid free tissue etc.

Brenda in Allhallows
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www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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