Re: [lace] Threading needles

[Brenda Paternoster]

Most sewing machine needles do have the flat side on the shank to correctly
align the needle in the machine (some industrial machine needles are round)
but also machine needles have a groove down the front (rounded side of the
shank) to accommodate the thread as the needle pierces the fabric.  The scarf
or indentation on the back of the needle is to allow the shuttle hook to get
very close to the thread.

Machine needles are always threaded from front to back of the needle,
although on a lot of machines the needle is positioned sideways so that
threading might go left to right or right to left, but it’s always from
front (rounded side of shank) to back.  I don’t know, but I’ll guess that
the shanks are flattened before the eyes are punched.  That would make the
needle more stable is it is being punched and ensure that subsequent threading
would go in the same direction as the punching went.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing_machine_needle


>
> I think the flat side is to be sure the needle is positioned
> exactly right for the mechanism that makes the stitch. If the needle were
> rotated the slightest amount, the thread wouldn't be hooked and there'd
> quickly be a thread jam.

Brenda in Allhallows

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Susie,

Just FYI, I think the flat side is to be sure the needle is positioned
exactly right for the mechanism that makes the stitch. If the needle were
rotated the slightest amount, the thread wouldn't be hooked and there'd
quickly be a thread jam.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM, C Johnson  wrote:

> I believe even the sewing machine needles are one directional while
> threading. Else why would they have a flat side to put again the post. ...
>

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[Joseph Young]

This is the same way i was taught (not in the 50's though, but the 
person who taught me learned in that era).

I am going to invest in a Bohin threader (what my quilting guild use) 
and a clover "yarn needle threader" for size 24,26,28 tapestry needles. 
These seem to be the crowd favorites.

Joseph .


> To easily thread most needles, lay a length of thread over the shaft of the 
> needle & pull sharply, grasping both thread ends firmly between thumb & 
> forefinger.  Slide the crisply folded thread off the shaft & lay the eye of 
> the needle over the fold you are pinching.  If the thread doesn’t pop up thru 
> the eye, flip the needle over & try the other side.
>
> My mother taught us this and said it was the way a blind person could thread 
> a needle (that was back in the 50s)!!

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[lace] Re: [lace] Re: [lace] Threading Needles with Pearl /Perlé Thread

[Bobbi Donnelly]

Thanks for the directions! I do enjoy Jeri's notes.
bobbi

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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:11 PM
To: Jeri Ames
Cc: Arachne ; David C COLLYER ; Susan
Subject: [lace] Re: [lace] Threading Needles with Pearl /Perlé Thread

I was sent these directions by a member of the Arachne group (sorry i
didn't make a note of your name) which i did and they have worked to make
sure that all of Jeri's postings come directly to me in gmail.

i hope this might help others.  i have sent it as mention has appeared but
it seems that there is still a conflict. 



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[lace] Re: [lace] Threading Needles with Pearl /Perlé Thread

[Lin Hudren]

I was sent these directions by a member of the Arachne group (sorry i
didn't make a note of your name) which i did and they have worked to make
sure that all of Jeri's postings come directly to me in gmail.

i hope this might help others.  i have sent it as mention has appeared but
it seems that there is still a conflict.

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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Jeri Ames  wrote:

> (A blind carbon copy was sent to 9 users of Gmail, because my AOL does not
> clear through the Arachne server to them.  If you are using the Digest form
> of Arachne, and you received this directly from me, please let me know so
> I'll not keep you on list to receive a bcc.)
>
> David, you made a valid point.  Back in the 1950s those of us who were
> around then learned these things at home or in Home Economics classes.  For
> decades, Home Ec usually has not been offered to students in the U.S. and
> probably in other nations.  Younger Arachne members probably never learned
> the basics of sewing.
>
> Susan Hottle's direction to fold thread over a needle's shank and force
> the pinched fold through the needle eye works well, but not for all threads
> - sometimes a fold can be too bulky.  No need to make a paper threader for
> Pearl cotton and similar threads.  The following is repeated for Arachne
> newbies.
>
> An embroidery tour of Scotland in the 1980s included a day at the Coats
> and Clarks manufacturing facility, where patterns were developed and made
> up for photography and promotion.  We were talking in the coach, and the
> public relations woman from C and C had never learned how to swiftly thread
> Pearl cotton into a needle.  I showed her, and she began to dance in the
> aisle.  That was a good lesson - it proved thread manufacturing experts
> sometimes do not know how their products are used.
>
> Directions for any thread similar to Pearl cotton / Coton perlé.  Fold the
> thread end over the soft pad of index finger of non-dominant hand and hold
> beneath (along with thread from spool) semi-firmly with thumb and middle
> finger.  With dominant hand, align needle north / south with the thread and
> rub the polished side eye of needle against until the thread pops through.
> This may take 3 tries to perfect how tightly the thread must be held and
> then released, but you will never forget.  No more spit or biting thread to
> make it squeeze through eye.
>
>
> If you and others make needle lace or forms of embroidery like Hardanger
> with Pearl cotton, please teach threading to them.  You will all dance.
>
> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
> Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
>
> In a message dated 12/12/2017 9:46:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> dccoll...@ncable.net.au writes:
>
> My mother taught us this and said it was the way a blind person could
> thread a needle (that was back in the 50s)!!David in Ballarat, AU
>
>

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Re: [lace] Threading Needles with Pearl /Perlé Thread

[Jeri Ames]

(A blind carbon copy was sent to 9 users of Gmail, because my AOL does not
clear through the Arachne server to them.  If you are using the Digest form
of Arachne, and you received this directly from me, please let me know so I'll
not keep you on list to receive a bcc.)
 
David, you made a valid point.  Back in the 1950s those of us who were around
then learned these things at home or in Home Economics classes.  For decades,
Home Ec usually has not been offered to students in the U.S. and probably in
other nations.  Younger Arachne members probably never learned the basics of
sewing.
 
Susan Hottle's direction to fold thread over a needle's shank and force the
pinched fold through the needle eye works well, but not for all threads -
sometimes a fold can be too bulky.  No need to make a paper threader for
Pearl cotton and similar threads.  The following is repeated for Arachne
newbies.   
 
An embroidery tour of Scotland in the 1980s included a day at the Coats and
Clarks manufacturing facility, where patterns were developed and made up for
photography and promotion.  We were talking in the coach, and the public
relations woman from C and C had never learned how to swiftly thread Pearl
cotton into a needle.  I showed her, and she began to dance in the aisle.
 That was a good lesson - it proved thread manufacturing experts sometimes do
not know how their products are used.  
 
Directions for any thread similar to Pearl cotton / Coton perlé.  Fold the
thread end over the soft pad of index finger of non-dominant hand and hold
beneath (along with thread from spool) semi-firmly with thumb and middle
finger.  With dominant hand, align needle north / south with the thread and
rub the polished side eye of needle against until the thread pops through.
 This may take 3 tries to perfect how tightly the thread must be held and
then released, but you will never forget.  No more spit or biting thread to
make it squeeze through eye.  
 
 
If you and others make needle lace or forms of embroidery like Hardanger with
Pearl cotton, please teach threading to them.  You will all dance.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
 
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My mother taught us this and said it was the way a blind person could thread a
needle (that was back in the 50s)!!    David in Ballarat, AU

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[Maureen]

Dear All

I was recently told that you should never wet the end of the thread as it will 
swell up and  make it harder to thread through the eye of a needle. I was told 
to make the eye of the needle wet, preferably with spit, and the thread would 
slip through easily.  I now do this and it seems to work.

Regards 
Maureen 
E Yorks UK

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RE: [lace] Threading needles

[David C Collyer]

Dear Susan.
To easily thread most needles, lay a length of thread over the shaft of the 
needle & pull sharply, grasping both thread ends firmly between thumb & 
forefinger.  Slide the crisply folded thread off the shaft & lay the eye of the 
needle over the fold you are pinching.  If the thread doesn’t pop up thru the 
eye, flip the needle over & try the other side.  

My mother taught us this and said it was the way a blind person could thread a 
needle (that was back in the 50s)!!
David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[Sue]

Now of course that makes perfect sense:-)  Thanks Brenda
Sue

I don’t think it’s that a needle eye is ‘designed’ to be threaded 
from
one side; rather it’s just that the way needles are made.  The hole for 
the

eye is punched out of the metal and it has to be done from one side, then
despite all the polishing and finishing that takes place it still remains
easier to push the thread into the hole from the side that the punch went 
in.


Brenda


Many do not even know how to thread a needle, or that one side of a

needle's

eye is designed for that purpose.

I have never heard of that. I tried Googling for information but 
couldn’t

find anything.


Brenda in Allhallows

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[catherinebar...@btinternet.com]

I'd never heard of it either but Nenia Lovesey always told us to take our 
threads sideways from the spool to wind our bobbins and not pull from the top 
of the spool, causing the thread to 'spiral'.

Catherine Barley Uk

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> On 12 Dec 2017, at 07:54, Ann Humphreys  wrote:
> 
> Jeri wrote
> Many do not even know how to thread a needle, or that one side of a needle's
> eye is designed for that purpose.
> 
> I have never heard of that. I tried Googling for information but couldn’t
> find anything.
> 

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Re: [lace] Threading needles

[Brenda Paternoster]

I don’t think it’s that a needle eye is ‘designed’ to be threaded from
one side; rather it’s just that the way needles are made.  The hole for the
eye is punched out of the metal and it has to be done from one side, then
despite all the polishing and finishing that takes place it still remains
easier to push the thread into the hole from the side that the punch went in.

I can’t tell you where, but I’m pretty sure that I’ve seen that info
somewhere on the web in relation to sewing machine needles (which are usually
different on either side), but the same will be true for hand sewing needles.
it’s just that in all other respects a hand sewing needle is the same on
both sides.

Brenda
>
> Many do not even know how to thread a needle, or that one side of a
needle's
> eye is designed for that purpose.
>
> I have never heard of that. I tried Googling for information but couldn’t
> find anything.

Brenda in Allhallows

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