Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace
My husband checked out on the internet and found reference to the Duchess of Hamilton who brought in a lace teacher from Europe to teach the children a trade, he says that was later taken on by the Duchess of Argyle. Sue T, Dorset UK Hi Jean and spiders, I forgot you were in Glasgow. What a pity they had a pillow there but in such a state. I got upset years ago about the state of some beautiful Aryshire baby's bonnets in our local museum and made complaint. They promptly handed me the job and I've been there ever since. Good thing you didn't speak up, they would have collared you too. Interesting the continental influence in Pitsligo. Wasn't that bit late for the migrations of lacemakers from Europe? I thought there were a few 'waves' of migration of lacemakers but much earlier than that. Does anyone know any more about that, or am I wrong? I'm also wondering, as people turn out deceased estates, whether we might find some examples of it now that were not available previously. Maybe by promoting the type, it might be more easily recognised. Can't wait to hear about Ballantrae, I guess it's the UK Guild mag? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Jean Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 10:05:29 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace I've visited Hamilton Museum (it's not far from Glasgow). It has lace pillows and bobbins (all of the typical English Midlands type) and some lace but only one piece that is said to be Hamilton lace. I took Jeri Ames there back in 2002 and we were both very unhappy with the scrambled mess on the lace pillow, enough to put anyone off lacemaking, but I haven't been back since. Over ten years ago I tried to follow up the references about Scottish lace that Mrs Palliser quotes but got nowhere. My feeling is that any bobbin lacemaking in Scotland was probably of the 'opportunistic' type - when lace sold well someone set up a 'lace industry' but when the slump came (as it always did) the lacemaking faded away. I'm not quite sure why it survived in New Pitsligo - perhaps because it was taught in the school there as part of the normal curriculum. This is what I wrote about New Pitsligo lace in an article about Scottish lace for a German lace magazine: In the nineteenth century lacemaking developed as a cottage industry in New Pitsligo, a village in north-eastern Aberdeenshire. It is uncertain who introduced lacemaking but it was encouraged by the minister, Rev.W.Webster who came to the village in 1841. He helped to improve the standard of the lace by bringing in teachers, compiled a specimen book and also found buyers for the lace including Queen Victoria. A report on Scottish Home Industries (1895) says that in the summer 50-60 and in the winter 150-160 persons are engaged in making lace. Women giving pretty steady attention to the work should make from 4s. to 5s. a week. The report is illustrated and includes a picture of a New Pitsligo lacemaker working at a bolster pillow outside her cottage. The lace was mainly Torchon, worked with the footside on the left indicating a continental influence, but there were local names for the patterns such as Lady's Fan, Jumpin Jecks and Ox-eye. The workers also referred to the movements of the bobbins as knit and twist instead of the more usual cross and twist. Lace is still made in New Pitsligo but now only as a hobby. And Rochelle, there is another Scottish lace - Ballantrae lace - but you'll have to wait for the July issue of 'Lace'. Now back to all the things on my list (this wasn't). Jean in Glasgow, Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace
I've visited Hamilton Museum (it's not far from Glasgow). It has lace pillows and bobbins (all of the typical English Midlands type) and some lace but only one piece that is said to be Hamilton lace. I took Jeri Ames there back in 2002 and we were both very unhappy with the scrambled mess on the lace pillow, enough to put anyone off lacemaking, but I haven't been back since. Over ten years ago I tried to follow up the references about Scottish lace that Mrs Palliser quotes but got nowhere. My feeling is that any bobbin lacemaking in Scotland was probably of the 'opportunistic' type - when lace sold well someone set up a 'lace industry' but when the slump came (as it always did) the lacemaking faded away. I'm not quite sure why it survived in New Pitsligo - perhaps because it was taught in the school there as part of the normal curriculum. This is what I wrote about New Pitsligo lace in an article about Scottish lace for a German lace magazine: In the nineteenth century lacemaking developed as a cottage industry in New Pitsligo, a village in north-eastern Aberdeenshire. It is uncertain who introduced lacemaking but it was encouraged by the minister, Rev.W.Webster who came to the village in 1841. He helped to improve the standard of the lace by bringing in teachers, compiled a specimen book and also found buyers for the lace including Queen Victoria. A report on Scottish Home Industries (1895) says that in the summer 50-60 and in the winter 150-160 persons are engaged in making lace. Women giving pretty steady attention to the work should make from 4s. to 5s. a week. The report is illustrated and includes a picture of a New Pitsligo lacemaker working at a bolster pillow outside her cottage. The lace was mainly Torchon, worked with the footside on the left indicating a continental influence, but there were local names for the patterns such as Lady's Fan, Jumpin Jecks and Ox-eye. The workers also referred to the movements of the bobbins as knit and twist instead of the more usual cross and twist. Lace is still made in New Pitsligo but now only as a hobby. And Rochelle, there is another Scottish lace - Ballantrae lace - but you'll have to wait for the July issue of 'Lace'. Now back to all the things on my list (this wasn't). Jean in Glasgow, Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace
Hi Jean and spiders, I forgot you were in Glasgow. What a pity they had a pillow there but in such a state. I got upset years ago about the state of some beautiful Aryshire baby's bonnets in our local museum and made complaint. They promptly handed me the job and I've been there ever since. Good thing you didn't speak up, they would have collared you too. Interesting the continental influence in Pitsligo. Wasn't that bit late for the migrations of lacemakers from Europe? I thought there were a few 'waves' of migration of lacemakers but much earlier than that. Does anyone know any more about that, or am I wrong? I'm also wondering, as people turn out deceased estates, whether we might find some examples of it now that were not available previously. Maybe by promoting the type, it might be more easily recognised. Can't wait to hear about Ballantrae, I guess it's the UK Guild mag? --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Jean Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 10:05:29 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace I've visited Hamilton Museum (it's not far from Glasgow). It has lace pillows and bobbins (all of the typical English Midlands type) and some lace but only one piece that is said to be Hamilton lace. I took Jeri Ames there back in 2002 and we were both very unhappy with the scrambled mess on the lace pillow, enough to put anyone off lacemaking, but I haven't been back since. Over ten years ago I tried to follow up the references about Scottish lace that Mrs Palliser quotes but got nowhere. My feeling is that any bobbin lacemaking in Scotland was probably of the 'opportunistic' type - when lace sold well someone set up a 'lace industry' but when the slump came (as it always did) the lacemaking faded away. I'm not quite sure why it survived in New Pitsligo - perhaps because it was taught in the school there as part of the normal curriculum. This is what I wrote about New Pitsligo lace in an article about Scottish lace for a German lace magazine: In the nineteenth century lacemaking developed as a cottage industry in New Pitsligo, a village in north-eastern Aberdeenshire. It is uncertain who introduced lacemaking but it was encouraged by the minister, Rev.W.Webster who came to the village in 1841. He helped to improve the standard of the lace by bringing in teachers, compiled a specimen book and also found buyers for the lace including Queen Victoria. A report on Scottish Home Industries (1895) says that in the summer 50-60 and in the winter 150-160 persons are engaged in making lace. Women giving pretty steady attention to the work should make from 4s. to 5s. a week. The report is illustrated and includes a picture of a New Pitsligo lacemaker working at a bolster pillow outside her cottage. The lace was mainly Torchon, worked with the footside on the left indicating a continental influence, but there were local names for the patterns such as Lady's Fan, Jumpin Jecks and Ox-eye. The workers also referred to the movements of the bobbins as knit and twist instead of the more usual cross and twist. Lace is still made in New Pitsligo but now only as a hobby. And Rochelle, there is another Scottish lace - Ballantrae lace - but you'll have to wait for the July issue of 'Lace'. Now back to all the things on my list (this wasn't). Jean in Glasgow, Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Scottish Lace - Hamilton lace
At 5:52 pm -0500 5/2/07, Rochelle wrote: Interesting the continental influence in Pitsligo. Wasn't that bit late for the migrations of lacemakers from Europe? I thought there were a few 'waves' of migration of lacemakers but much earlier than that. Does anyone know any more about that, or am I wrong? It doesn't need a 'wave' - just one person. It's a bit of a mystery how the lacemaking in New Pitsligo started but according to one account the person who first taught the local women came from Aberdeen but had been a lady's maid in France where she had learnt lacemaking. (This is from an article in the Costume Society of Scotland Bulletin XXVII, Winter 1986, 'A Look at Lacemaking in Scotland' by Elsie McArthur.) Jean in Glasgow. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace
About 4 yrs. ago I did a search for Scottish lace info when I was asked by the local Scottish Games people to demonstrate at the games. There was not much to be found, although a University in Mississippi has some books on Scottish hand crafts. Hamilton Lace seems to be named for the Duchess of Hamilton who organized a charitable school in the 18th C. (see Dictionary of Lace by Earnshaw). There was also a small 'home lace industry' in New Pitsligo. The only patterns or pictures I have seen are defiantly Torchon style and quite course and very open. Earnshaw states: Scottish Lace There were no commercial centres for lacemaking in Scotland, and lace does not even appear to have been worn in any quantity. There are references in the sixteenth centruy only to pearling, to 'cuttit out work' and to lacis as made by Mary Queen of Scots during her long imprisonment. The cobwebby knitted laces of the Shetland marriage shawls can be traced back to the 1840s and Scotland was noted for its beautiful Ayrshire work. I would still be interested in any further information on Scottish laces. There is a web site (a newspaper I think) with an article about New Pitsligo lace-making. see http://www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_45/village/lace-making.asphttp: //www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_45/village/lace-making.asp There is also a booklet Lace-making in Hamilton by Jessie H Lochhead, M.A., published by? 'Hamilton Public Libraries and Museum Committee 1971' The copy I got on inter-library loan came from the Univ. of Chicago Library. The Canadian Lacemaker Gazette Vol. 13 No 3 had an article on New Pitsligo Lace by Sandi Milliken with a pricking of the pattern Bird's Eye with a diagram by Bev Walker. Margaret Merner was kind enough to send me a copy at the time I ask here on Arachne about Scottish laces. In 2004, I was told Sandi had taught a class on the New Pitsligo lace at IOLI in the mid 1990s, had planned to write a book about it but became ill and died in 2002. In 1993, Sandi and Trish Fisher (WV) had made a trip to New Pitsligo, staying 2 weeks with a local lacemaker/teacher. Trish states New Pitsligo lace IS much like Torchon but has it's own special rules and quirks. Lorri Graham, WA USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace
Pitsligo I have heard of and am trying to track down now that I've been reminded of it. The search I just did on Hamilton hasn't turned up any pictures, but it has revealed that the Hamilton lace was popular and that commoners and ladies alike made it. That died out, as things seem to, only to be replaced by a sort of ' tambour bobbinette' that surged to popluarity and was everywhere for a few years. If anyone can shed any light on that type of lace, I would like to know more about it too. That's potentially three Scottish laces, besides the Aryshire work and lace knitting. Thanks one and all. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.au - Original Message From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 2:25:18 PM Subject: Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace About 4 yrs. ago I did a search for Scottish lace info when I was asked by the local Scottish Games people to demonstrate at the games. There was not much to be found, although a University in Mississippi has some books on Scottish hand crafts. Hamilton Lace seems to be named for the Duchess of Hamilton who organized a charitable school in the 18th C. (see Dictionary of Lace by Earnshaw). There was also a small 'home lace industry' in New Pitsligo. The only patterns or pictures I have seen are defiantly Torchon style and quite course and very open. Earnshaw states: Scottish Lace There were no commercial centres for lacemaking in Scotland, and lace does not even appear to have been worn in any quantity. There are references in the sixteenth centruy only to pearling, to 'cuttit out work' and to lacis as made by Mary Queen of Scots during her long imprisonment. The cobwebby knitted laces of the Shetland marriage shawls can be traced back to the 1840s and Scotland was noted for its beautiful Ayrshire work. I would still be interested in any further information on Scottish laces. There is a web site (a newspaper I think) with an article about New Pitsligo lace-making. see http://www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_45/village/lace-making.asp There is also a booklet Lace-making in Hamilton by Jessie H Lochhead, M.A., published by? 'Hamilton Public Libraries and Museum Committee 1971' The copy I got on inter-library loan came from the Univ. of Chicago Library. The Canadian Lacemaker Gazette Vol. 13 No 3 had an article on New Pitsligo Lace by Sandi Milliken with a pricking of the pattern Bird's Eye with a diagram by Bev Walker. Margaret Merner was kind enough to send me a copy at the time I ask here on Arachne about Scottish laces. In 2004, I was told Sandi had taught a class on the New Pitsligo lace at IOLI in the mid 1990s, had planned to write a book about it but became ill and died in 2002. In 1993, Sandi and Trish Fisher (WV) had made a trip to New Pitsligo, staying 2 weeks with a local lacemaker/teacher. Trish states New Pitsligo lace IS much like Torchon but has it's own special rules and quirks. Lorri Graham, WA USA ___ Web email has come of age. Don't settle for less than the All New Yahoo! Mail http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace
I would still be interested in any further information on Scottish laces. Dear Spiders: I do like books that were written before people felt the need to be politically correct, and would state their opinion fearlessly - In Chats on Old Lace and Needlework, Mrs. Lowes (circa 1907) states: Scotch lace can hardly be said to exist. At one time a coarse kind of network lace called Hamilton lace was made, and considerable money was obtained by it, but it never had a fashion, and deservedly so. Since the introduction of machinery, however, there has been considerable trade, and a tambour lace is made for flounces, scarfs, c. The more artistic class of work made by Scotswomen is that of embroidering fine muslin, and some really exquisite work is made by the common people in their homes. The fine muslin embroidery was, of course, what we now know as Ayrshire Work and there are some excellent books out on the subject. But Scotland in general appears to have been pretty much a bobbin-free zone. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace
There is a picture of 'Hamilton Lace' in Palliser 'A History of Lace' in the section 'Lace Manufactures of Scotland' pg. 383 in my edition. I did a blow up of it and began trying to recreate a pricking of it. I really should get back to that again. Lorri - Original Message - From: Rochelle Sutherlandmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lorri Fergusonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace Pitsligo I have heard of and am trying to track down now that I've been reminded of it. The search I just did on Hamilton hasn't turned up any pictures, but it has revealed that the Hamilton lace was popular and that commoners and ladies alike made it. That died out, as things seem to, only to be replaced by a sort of ' tambour bobbinette' that surged to popluarity and was everywhere for a few years. If anyone can shed any light on that type of lace, I would like to know more about it too. That's potentially three Scottish laces, besides the Aryshire work and lace knitting. Thanks one and all. --- Rochelle Sutherland Lachlan (8 yrs), Duncan (7 yrs) and Iain (6 yrs) www.houseofhadrian.com.auhttp://www.houseofhadrian.com.au/ - Original Message From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 February, 2007 2:25:18 PM Subject: Re: [lace]Scottish Lace -Hamilton Lace About 4 yrs. ago I did a search for Scottish lace info when I was asked by the local Scottish Games people to demonstrate at the games. There was not much to be found, although a University in Mississippi has some books on Scottish hand crafts. Hamilton Lace seems to be named for the Duchess of Hamilton who organized a charitable school in the 18th C. (see Dictionary of Lace by Earnshaw). There was also a small 'home lace industry' in New Pitsligo. The only patterns or pictures I have seen are defiantly Torchon style and quite course and very open. Earnshaw states: Scottish Lace There were no commercial centres for lacemaking in Scotland, and lace does not even appear to have been worn in any quantity. There are references in the sixteenth centruy only to pearling, to 'cuttit out work' and to lacis as made by Mary Queen of Scots during her long imprisonment. The cobwebby knitted laces of the Shetland marriage shawls can be traced back to the 1840s and Scotland was noted for its beautiful Ayrshire work. I would still be interested in any further information on Scottish laces. There is a web site (a newspaper I think) with an article about New Pitsligo lace-making. see http://www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_45/village/lace-making.asphtt p://www.buchanie.co.uk/archived/2004/Week_45/village/lace-making.asp There is also a booklet Lace-making in Hamilton by Jessie H Lochhead, M.A., published by? 'Hamilton Public Libraries and Museum Committee 1971' The copy I got on inter-library loan came from the Univ. of Chicago Library. The Canadian Lacemaker Gazette Vol. 13 No 3 had an article on New Pitsligo Lace by Sandi Milliken with a pricking of the pattern Bird's Eye with a diagram by Bev Walker. Margaret Merner was kind enough to send me a copy at the time I ask here on Arachne about Scottish laces. In 2004, I was told Sandi had taught a class on the New Pitsligo lace at IOLI in the mid 1990s, had planned to write a book about it but became ill and died in 2002. In 1993, Sandi and Trish Fisher (WV) had made a trip to New Pitsligo, staying 2 weeks with a local lacemaker/teacher. Trish states New Pitsligo lace IS much like Torchon but has it's own special rules and quirks. Lorri Graham, WA USA ___ Web email has come of age. Don't settle for less than the All New Yahoo! Mail http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.htmlhttp://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan. html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
