Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk via Lazarus
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:00 PM, wkitty42--- via Lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > On 10/24/2016 01:53 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk via Lazarus wrote: > >> I have the book : >> >> https://www.amazon.com/Lazarus-Complete-Guide-pascal-teachin >> g/dp/9490968021 >> ( Lazarus The

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread wkitty42--- via Lazarus
On 10/24/2016 01:53 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk via Lazarus wrote: I have the book : https://www.amazon.com/Lazarus-Complete-Guide-pascal-teaching/dp/9490968021 ( Lazarus The complete Guide ) i've been looking for that book off and on since i heard about it... amazon currently shows it as

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Travis Ayres via Lazarus
The part I'm most interested in is using Lazarus to full effect with good architecture; I don't think the GUI portion would make a good first (or even second) course in computers/computing. I would like to see a "Software Architecture" course that used Delphi/FreePascal/Lazarus On Mon, Oct 24,

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk via Lazarus
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Travis Ayres via Lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > With over 100 replies, we could have already written a course outline, > introduction, and some notes about events and RAD programming, maybe also > the observer pattern? > > On Oct 24, 2016 3:51

Re: [Lazarus] How to use strings properly with fixes_1_6 and FPC 3.0.0?

2016-10-24 Thread Rolf Grunsky via Lazarus
On 10/22/2016 06:25 AM, Juha Manninen via Lazarus wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 4:12 AM, Martin Frb via Lazarus wrote: Which ones does it not support? When I added it to SynEdit it was complete. It had all the combinings that the utf8 standard had back then. (at

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Travis Ayres via Lazarus
With over 100 replies, we could have already written a course outline, introduction, and some notes about events and RAD programming, maybe also the observer pattern? On Oct 24, 2016 3:51 AM, "Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus" < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: Am 2016-10-24 um 12:20 schrieb

Re: [Lazarus] How to use strings properly with fixes_1_6 and FPC 3.0.0?

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 24.10.2016 15:09, Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus wrote: These functions exist. This of course is great (while the lack of documentation supposedly makes them hard to use). In fact I am not asking, but the question is part of the OP's problem. And here I wanted to point out the ambiguity of

Re: [Lazarus] How to use strings properly with fixes_1_6 and FPC 3.0.0?

2016-10-24 Thread Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:35:28 +0200 Michael Schnell wrote: >[...] but even trying to find out a very short information is identical is not decently possible. >[...] > I meant to point out exactly this ambiguity: > > identically coded vs. identically looking (e.g. combining

Re: [Lazarus] How to use strings properly with fixes_1_6 and FPC 3.0.0?

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 24.10.2016 13:34, Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus wrote: That depends on what you mean with "identical". You are absolutely right. Very sorry for being critical while being vague myself (again typing faster than thinking) ;) . I meant to point out exactly this ambiguity: identically coded

Re: [Lazarus] Chromium embedded on freebsd or firefox embedded

2016-10-24 Thread José Mejuto via Lazarus
El 24/10/2016 a las 2:19, Lars via Lazarus escribió: Those are some interesting reads. It confirms my gut instinct to choose chromium embedded (CEF) for development, instead of mozilla embedded, as chromium embedded seems more designed for embedding at this stage than the more immature firefox

Re: [Lazarus] How to use strings properly with fixes_1_6 and FPC 3.0.0?

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 23.10.2016 11:31, Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus wrote: But Unicode should have cared. It was made for its use on computers. I don't think so. I suppose it was defined top allow for printing out digital documents in mind, but not with working with them. At least this i what the outcome

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus
Am 2016-10-24 um 12:20 schrieb Michael Schnell via Lazarus: > On 21.10.2016 11:09, Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus wrote: >> What is the use of a program? Entertainment? > Nowadays in 90% of the usage exactly this. > Maybe other usage cases are more "important", but still the money is made with

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus
Am 2016-10-24 um 11:57 schrieb Michael Schnell via Lazarus: > On 21.10.2016 09:51, Lars via Lazarus wrote: >> The concept of callbacks is very similar to events. > The difference is that with a callback you usually know both sides and hence how exactly it is called, > while with an event

Re: [Lazarus] How to use strings properly with fixes_1_6 and FPC 3.0.0?

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 21.10.2016 12:05, Gabor Boros via Lazarus wrote: 2016. 10. 21. 10:25 keltezéssel, Juha Manninen via Lazarus írta: * Please read the wiki page ... I read, I read but if contains buggy example... ;-) I need a quick and a rock solid solution. AFAIK, the only decent advice is never to use

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 21.10.2016 10:12, Lars via Lazarus wrote: Today's bloatware applications are so large no one can understand them IMHO, you did a good job to scare everybody away from even thinking about starting to try programming. So we should just stop "Teaching Pascal at College". -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 21.10.2016 11:09, Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus wrote: What is the use of a program? Entertainment? Nowadays in 90% of the usage exactly this. Maybe other usage cases are more "important", but still the money is made with Entertainment. -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 18.10.2016 17:16, Jürgen Hestermann via Lazarus wrote: Yes, therefore start with simple procedural (console) programs that let them have immediate success with all the elementary things that a program consists of (variables/types, loops, commands, etc.). Yep. Satisfying for a Nerd, but it

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 21.10.2016 14:05, Martin Schreiber via Lazarus wrote: Win32 API works with message queues. Happily, the application programmer does not need to know about that, as the LCL completely hides the underlying complexity. He sees the same type of "GUI"-events, independent of running on Winx

Re: [Lazarus] Teaching Pascal at College

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 21.10.2016 09:51, Lars via Lazarus wrote: The concept of callbacks is very similar to events. The difference is that with a callback you usually know both sides and hence how exactly it is called, while with an event (especially when fired by the LCL on behalf of something that happens in

Re: [Lazarus] Mouse move and mouse click

2016-10-24 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
No linking error here on Manjaro Linux with Lazarus trunk and FPC 3.0. Try a clean build of everything. BTW, you forgot to mention your FPC / Lazarus versions. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org