Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 0:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 14 August 2012 20:10, Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps some tool called, say lazset*), could be created and used to set/change key shortcuts, e.g.: lazset --primary-config-path=c:\example\whatever

Re: [Lazarus] language setup / http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=22574

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 14-8-2012 23:12, Martin wrote: On 14/08/2012 21:29, Avishai wrote: I haven't seen what you are working on so I'm not sure if what I say is relevant. Often I am logged into my Hebrew account and sometime my English account. When I first tried to install Lazarus, I was in Hebrew, so

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:18:15 +0200 Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote: [...] @Mattias: yes, you're right, you can modify the xml file. Then you'd get into scripting that changes xml files. Not something I'd look forward to as an admin, but certainly doable. To each his own,

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 9:22, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:18:15 +0200 Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote: [...] @Mattias: yes, you're right, you can modify the xml file. Then you'd get into scripting that changes xml files. Not something I'd look forward to as an

Re: [Lazarus] fpWeb long process progress

2012-08-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: On 2012-08-14 11:47:41 -0300, Marcos Douglas wrote: IMHO, maybe is better to use CGI gateway to capture the requests and, for each one them, start a process -- this method will use a file to write the log of process, as Leonardo and Michael said.

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-14 20:45, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: In that case Ctrl should be avoided too, because Ctrl is often used in KDE Gnome shortcuts See how rediculous this is becoming! As I wrote: If it is not possible to define different (standard) shortcuts for each platform (thereby avoiding

Re: [Lazarus] Web Service Toolkit issue

2012-08-15 Thread michael . vancanneyt
Hi, Inoussa has looked into the matter, and made some adjustments. Can you please test again from the latest SVN ? If that doesn't fix it, please send me the WSDL in private, so I can forward it to him. Michael. On Wed, 8 Aug 2012, Ian Godman wrote: I have upgraded from SVN and get

Re: [Lazarus] fpWeb long process progress

2012-08-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 08/15/2012 12:14 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: in my case, I know in advance the process wouldn't take more than one minute, I feel that (without some special configuration) a normal web server will kill a standard CGI process that takes more than just a few seconds before returning. Please

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-14 20:45, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Lazarus DOES allow you to redefine shortcuts, so does your OS. So YOU decided what is more important to you - the OS shortcut or the Lazarus one, then simply undefine the others. Another aspect of this is that I have multiple machines where I

Re: [Lazarus] fpWeb long process progress

2012-08-15 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 15 August 2012 09:28, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 08/15/2012 12:14 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: in my case, I know in advance the process wouldn't take more than one minute, I feel that (without some special configuration) a normal web server will kill a standard CGI

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:01:05 +0200 Jürgen Hestermann juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de wrote: Am 2012-08-14 20:45, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Lazarus DOES allow you to redefine shortcuts, so does your OS. So YOU decided what is more important to you - the OS shortcut or the Lazarus one, then

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 11:17, schrieb Mattias Gaertner: The IDE does not reset configs on itself. Maybe the installer does? I think the settings are not reset after each update. But I had several situations where I got an startup error message after a certain upgrade which I could only get rid of by

[Lazarus] i18n and Format()

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
I note from http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_translation_strings_right#The_format.28.29_function that Since format() does not interpret escaped control characters is struck out and In the current lazarus version, \n and \t in translated strings are replaced by newline and tab is

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 11:46, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Am 2012-08-15 11:17, schrieb Mattias Gaertner: The IDE does not reset configs on itself. Maybe the installer does? I think the settings are not reset after each update. But I had several situations where I got an startup error message after a

Re: [Lazarus] i18n and Format()

2012-08-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I note from http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_translation_strings_right#The_format.28.29_function that Since format() does not interpret escaped control characters is struck out and In the current lazarus version, \n and \t in

Re: [Lazarus] i18n and Format()

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I note from http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_translation_strings_right#The_format.28.29_function that Since format() does not interpret escaped control characters is struck out and In the current lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, On 15 August 2012 10:01, Jürgen Hestermann juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de wrote: Another aspect of this is that I have multiple machines where I use Lazarus/Free Pascal (at home and at work) and I often use the daily snapshots to reinstall Lazarus on them. Afterwards I often find that my

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Jürgen Hestermann juergen.hesterm...@gmx.de hat am 15. August 2012 um 11:46 geschrieben: Am 2012-08-15 11:17, schrieb Mattias Gaertner: The IDE does not reset configs on itself. Maybe the installer does? I think the settings are not reset after each update. But I had several situations

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 07:18, Reinier Olislagers wrote: On 15-8-2012 0:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: That is making a mountain out of a mole heap. The problem of this thread is not really a problem at all. Changing shortcuts are quick and easy already. Morning all, @Martin: having an export (and

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 12:19, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: So you removed your settings directory and were surprised your settings were gone??? 1.) I thought my settings were stored in D:\Programme\lazarus\environmentoptions.xml. C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\username\Lokale

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 13:34, Martin wrote: On 15/08/2012 07:18, Reinier Olislagers wrote: On 15-8-2012 0:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: That is making a mountain out of a mole heap. The problem of this thread is not really a problem at all. Changing shortcuts are quick and easy already. Morning all,

Re: [Lazarus] i18n and Format()

2012-08-15 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/8/15 Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I note from http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_translation_strings_right#The_format.28.29_function that Since format() does not interpret escaped

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 13:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Am 2012-08-15 12:19, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: So you removed your settings directory and were surprised your settings were gone??? 1.) I thought my settings were stored in D:\Programme\lazarus\environmentoptions.xml. C:\Dokumente und

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 12:40, Reinier Olislagers wrote: I don't understand The command-line isn't XML? It can use the same units to write the XML config as other existing code (just like lazbuild). But it needs a separate reader, that writes data into the config object. The XML reader already exists.

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 12:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: I install snapshots very frequently. I don't look into any release notes for each setup. It seems this was a fault and I need to stay with a working installation as long as possible. So using snapshots is not wise. I will not do this again (never

Re: [Lazarus] i18n and Format()

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Vincent Snijders wrote: 2012/8/15 Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.laza...@telemetry.co.uk: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I note from http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_translation_strings_right#The_format.28.29_function that Since format() does

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/8/15 Martin laza...@mfriebe.de: On 15/08/2012 12:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: But that's totaly confusing for users if they are asked to overwrite this. If it's a fallback then it should be overwritten silently in the same way that all other files are overwritten too. I agree with that.

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 14:05, Martin wrote: On 15/08/2012 12:40, Reinier Olislagers wrote: I don't understand The command-line isn't XML? It can use the same units to write the XML config as other existing code (just like lazbuild). But it needs a separate reader, that writes data into the config

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 13:20, Vincent Snijders wrote: 2012/8/15 Martin laza...@mfriebe.de: On 15/08/2012 12:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: But that's totaly confusing for users if they are asked to overwrite this. If it's a fallback then it should be overwritten silently in the same way that all other

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 13:37, Reinier Olislagers wrote: *IF* the export exists, AND someone submits a patch, it would be possible to do lazarus.exe --keymap=xmlfile.xml You mean it will then import/merge xmlfile.xml into the regular config (overwriting existing settings or creating them depending on

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 14:57, Martin wrote: On 15/08/2012 13:37, Reinier Olislagers wrote: *IF* the export exists, AND someone submits a patch, it would be possible to do lazarus.exe --keymap=xmlfile.xml You mean it will then import/merge xmlfile.xml into the regular config (overwriting existing

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 13:57, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: On 15-8-2012 13:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: 1.) I thought my settings were stored in D:\Programme\lazarus\environmentoptions.xml. Changed this? How? Using --primary-config-path then? No. Many years ago (don't remember exactly) when installing

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 15:13, schrieb Jürgen Hestermann: 4.) No Lazarus directory exists under C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\username\Lokale Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten This should of course read: 4.) No Lazarus directory exists under C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\username\Anwendungsdaten --

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 15:13, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Am 2012-08-15 13:57, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: On 15-8-2012 13:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: 1.) Somewhere should have been C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\username\Anwendungsdaten and not C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\username\Lokale

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/8/15 Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com: On 15-8-2012 15:13, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Am 2012-08-15 13:57, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: On 15-8-2012 13:39, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: 1.) Somewhere should have been C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\username\Anwendungsdaten and not

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 16:03, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_profile : If you feel strongly about it, you might want to submit an issue in the bugtracker... It's not that I have a strong feeling about it but as you can see, this little inaccuracy can cause

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 16:09, schrieb Vincent Snijders: There are two reasons why local app data is used: * That is what GetAppConfigDir in fpc returns * It is used to store a lazarus executable with compiled packages, if the current executable directory is not writable. Having +/- 150 MB extra in my

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 16:15, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: --primary-config-path=... or -pcp=... In fact, it's the only way I know to change the configuration directory. That's the root cause of all this confusion: If I *know* all the nitty little details then I can act on them. But if I only want to

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
On 15/08/2012 16:50, Martin wrote: Are you sure? Some of the issues that caused errors when upgrading to a snapshot, where fixed in the RC1 installer (again windows) And I did tes myself, twice: starting once with a clean install of 0.9.30.4 and once with a 0.9.30 (not sure if I did a

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Reinier Olislagers reinierolislag...@gmail.com hat am 15. August 2012 um 16:03 geschrieben: On 15-8-2012 15:13, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: [...] Regardless, a user can customize that fallback environmentoptions.xml and distribute it. That's why there's an overwrite question. Yes, but if it

Re: [Lazarus] Help: Multithreading

2012-08-15 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Clinton Shane Wright clintona...@gmail.com hat am 15. August 2012 um 17:20 geschrieben: Hi everyone, I hope that someone can help me understand a little bit better on how to work with threads in Lazarus. I am still learning so please forgive my ignorance in any matter here. I am using

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 17:15, Jürgen Hestermann wrote: Am 2012-08-15 16:03, schrieb Reinier Olislagers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_profile : If you feel strongly about it, you might want to submit an issue in the bugtracker... It's not that I have a strong feeling about it but as

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Jürgen Hestermann
Am 2012-08-15 17:50, schrieb Martin: The latest installer eve warns you, if you try to install (windows) multiple copies (which is one known cause for config issues) Ok. That's nice. The reason for breaking things was not that I used snapshots. The same would have happened for an official

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Sven Barth
Am 15.08.2012 17:51 schrieb Martin laza...@mfriebe.de: 1. I hope you realize by now Lazarus doesn't store its settings in the registry. AFAIK, the only Lazarus-related things in the registry are the file associations. Only file-associations And the installer info (so it is listed for

[Lazarus] The forum and forms, and accidental reloads.

2012-08-15 Thread Martin
Does anyone have an idea? I am using firefox. If I fill out any form on any website (including textfields) and I accidental navigate away (e.g.) browser back) then I can go and use the opposite (browser forward) to get back to the page with the form. And firefox restores the text, that I

Re: [Lazarus] Virtual TreeView on Windows x64

2012-08-15 Thread Luiz Americo Pereira Camara
Em 15/8/2012 09:45, Alexander Hofmann escreveu: Hi there. Is SVN: https://lazarus-ccr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/lazarus-ccr/components/virtualtreeview-new/trunk/ still the actual current repository for the Virtual TreeView component? In many cases I read to use the 4.8 branch to be able to

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Reinier Olislagers schrieb: 2. aren't there any tools that already provide such a merge XML functionality? An XML document parses into an tree. This tree can be used as the start for parsing the next XML document, merging or overriding the old and new tree nodes. DoDi --

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus shortcuts conflict with windows shortcuts

2012-08-15 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 15-8-2012 23:48, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Reinier Olislagers schrieb: 2. aren't there any tools that already provide such a merge XML functionality? An XML document parses into an tree. This tree can be used as the start for parsing the next XML document, merging or overriding the