Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-22 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:34:30 +0100 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: [...] Our Wiki does not have that long page names. The problem is that non ASCII characters are converted to hex codes, tripling the length. wikiget could use the actual names instead and encode them using

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Schnell
As Pagenames seemingly are allowed to contain up to 256 characters with relevant upper/lower case and there are file systems that support only up to 256 characters for file names and there are (silly !!!) file systems that don't support relevant upper/lower case, something like MD5 seems to

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:50:13 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: As Pagenames seemingly are allowed to contain up to 256 characters with relevant upper/lower case and there are file systems that support only up to 256 characters for file names and there are (silly !!!) file

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/20/2015 11:58 AM, Andreas Frieß wrote: The wikiget should handle the situation. All pages with an an not workable filename should be ignored and logged and the programm go on running. I feel that this is a workaround. People will go on creating rather long non-ASCII page names that

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Andi
Am 20.01.2015 um 10:45 schrieb Michael Schnell: On 01/20/2015 10:34 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Our Wiki does not have that long page names. The problem is that non ASCII characters are converted to hex codes, tripling the length. wikiget could use the actual names instead and encode them

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/20/2015 10:34 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Our Wiki does not have that long page names. The problem is that non ASCII characters are converted to hex codes, tripling the length. wikiget could use the actual names instead and encode them using some sort of UTF-7. UTF-7 of course provides

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/20/2015 11:30 AM, Andi wrote: If the definition in the Lazarus wiki is: I feel that _if_ you do a patch to the converter program(s), they should work independently of such current definition (any language should be allowable in future). and here, IMHO UTF-7 is a good idea.

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Andreas Frieß
Am 20.01.2015 um 11:47 schrieb Michael Schnell: On 01/20/2015 11:30 AM, Andi wrote: If the definition in the Lazarus wiki is: I feel that _if_ you do a patch to the converter program(s), they should work independently of such current definition (any language should be allowable in

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Andreas Frieß
Am 20.01.2015 um 12:01 schrieb Michael Schnell: On 01/20/2015 11:58 AM, Andreas Frieß wrote: The wikiget should handle the situation. All pages with an an not workable filename should be ignored and logged and the programm go on running. I feel that this is a workaround. People will go on

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/20/2015 02:14 PM, Andreas Frieß wrote: I think the people who have produced the pages with problem IMHO didnt understand full the ruling of the pages. OK. (But I think that unfortunately the Wiki does not provide any means to enforce such rules :-( ) Hence the Help Supervisor Team

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Andreas Frieß
Am 20.01.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Michael Schnell: On 01/20/2015 02:14 PM, Andreas Frieß wrote: I think the people who have produced the pages with problem IMHO didnt understand full the ruling of the pages. OK. (But I think that unfortunately the Wiki does not provide any means to enforce such

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/20/2015 02:59 PM, Andreas Frieß wrote: Who is the team ? :-) :-) :-) (We did discuss this in the German forum.) No answer on that from my, as I don't want to discourage you yet again. :-( -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-20 Thread Andreas Frieß
When i am move a page to the right name, eg. to Sand Box/ru the old page (source) is still available and in the wiki. So the moving did copy the content to the new position, but not remove the old page (name). Who can remove the (now useless) page 'Песочница

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:11:39 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: [...] I _feel_ that pagenames should be pure ASCII to avoid confusion, but I am not an expert on that. It looks, the naming is allowed. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(technical_restrictions)

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:50:38 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: [...] At this time i have found the tools in the directories of Lazarus !! in component/wiki. This tools look better So i have try to use the tools. Its look running, but i have not enough knowledge about the handling with the

[Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Frieß
I want to try more help offline for Lazarus and have searched for tools to get the information out of the wiki. At first i have dealed with the tools in the lazarus-ccr and see, the connection is blocked by the wiki itself. This was not the major problem, because i can use activeX and the IE

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/19/2015 05:32 PM, Frieß wrote: So is one question, should this corrected in the wiki or accepted by the wikiget ? I think, firstly wikiget should issue a decent error message when it his such a page. Does it ? I _feel_ that pagenames should be pure ASCII to avoid confusion, but I

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:41:17 +0100 Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote: On 01/19/2015 05:32 PM, Frieß wrote: So is one question, should this corrected in the wiki or accepted by the wikiget ? I think, firstly wikiget should issue a decent error message when it his such a page.

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Frieß
Am 19.01.2015 um 17:17 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:50:38 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: [...] At this time i have found the tools in the directories of Lazarus !! in component/wiki. This tools look better So i have try to use the tools. Its look running, but i have not

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:32:37 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: Am 19.01.2015 um 17:17 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:50:38 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: [...] At this time i have found the tools in the directories of Lazarus !! in component/wiki. This tools look

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Frieß
Am 19.01.2015 um 17:41 schrieb Michael Schnell: On 01/19/2015 05:32 PM, Frieß wrote: So is one question, should this corrected in the wiki or accepted by the wikiget ? I think, firstly wikiget should issue a decent error message when it his such a page. Does it ? I _feel_ that pagenames

Re: [Lazarus] Howto work with wikiget and wikiconvert tools

2015-01-19 Thread Frieß
Am 19.01.2015 um 18:53 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:32:37 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: Am 19.01.2015 um 17:17 schrieb Mattias Gaertner: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:50:38 +0100 Frieß fri...@gmx.at wrote: [...] At this time i have found the tools in the directories of