Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-27 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: Marcos Douglas kirjoitti maanantai, 26. heinäkuuta 2010 20:43:44: Would you like to talk in private about some ideas to organize the wiki? (but, if somebody has any ideas about it, we still continue to talk here)

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-27 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: Marcos Douglas kirjoitti maanantai, 26. heinäkuuta 2010 20:43:44: Would you like to talk in private about some ideas to organize the wiki? (but, if somebody has any ideas about it, we still continue to talk here)

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-26 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: Those must be more like advanced features. At least I have never set PPC_CONFIG_PATH variable and I have a working FPC 2.5.1 trunk version here. I recently even tested my own instructions on a mini-laptop with Linux

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-26 Thread Juha Manninen
Okay... but I thought you had already started, haven't you? If you have some news ideas, tell me and let's go to work... if not, I will think how will be the new struct. I started in a different way. I made small sub-pages linked into the main instruction page. Then I realized it is not so

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-26 Thread Marcos Douglas
2010/7/26 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com: Okay... but I thought you had already started, haven't you? If you have some news ideas, tell me and let's go to work... if not, I will think how will be the new struct. I started in a different way. I made small sub-pages linked into the

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-26 Thread Juha Manninen
Marcos Douglas kirjoitti maanantai, 26. heinäkuuta 2010 20:43:44: Would you like to talk in private about some ideas to organize the wiki? (but, if somebody has any ideas about it, we still continue to talk here) You can contact me with with e-mail or with chat. I try to keep my chat client

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:13:19AM -0300, Marcos Douglas wrote: I didn't find a starting compiler for windows, but for linux, darwin and freebsd you can get ppcxxx from ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.0/bootstrap/ As Win too! Look

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-24 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi wrote: Marcos Douglas wrote torstai, 22. heinäkuuta 2010 20:09:54: BTW, At the moment we have two wiki pages about installing. Juha has started to clean up / update the 'Getting_Lazarus' page and put each target

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-24 Thread Juha Manninen
Marcos Douglas wrote lauantai, 24. heinäkuuta 2010 19:14:24: I agree. But compiling the source from the SVN can not be so simple for most people. So I think in this case (using SVN) the information should be detailed and, if possible, automate tasks using scripts. It is easy when you leave the

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-24 Thread Juha Manninen
Andreas Schneider wrote perjantai, 23. heinäkuuta 2010 23:26:20: You mean something like this? http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?title=Special:Allpagesfrom=n amespace=0 It's even named index btw, although it's more like a cross-over between TOC and Index. I answered this

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-24 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Juha Manninen juha.manni...@phnet.fi wrote: Marcos Douglas wrote lauantai, 24. heinäkuuta 2010 19:14:24: I agree. But compiling the source from the SVN can not be so simple for most people. So I think in this case (using SVN) the information should be detailed

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-24 Thread Juha Manninen
Marcos Douglas kirjoitti lauantai, 24. heinäkuuta 2010 22:40:06: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_Lazarus#Build_and_install_wit h_make When I joined the community of FPC, I tried to compile the FPC / Laz on my PC, but could not. After receiving some tips in mailing-list, I

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:01:10PM -0300, Julio C. Taborda wrote: I didn't find a starting compiler for windows, but for linux, darwin and freebsd you can get ppcxxx from ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.4.0/bootstrap/ I added win32. -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Sven Barth
Hi! Am 22.07.2010 23:49, schrieb waldo kitty: in other words, from a w2k box, if i grab the sources for i386-win and the sources for i386-linux and the sources for i386-OS2 and run the full compilation process, will i truly end up with the compilers for linux and OS2 such that cross compiling

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 23/07/10 13:01, Reimar Grabowski wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:05:51 -0400 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote: yes, i understand what you are saying however, remember that the point i'm coming from is from that of the average joe coder who has no need of understanding all the deep

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:14 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 7/22/2010 14:55, Marcos Douglas wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Reimar Grabowskireimg...@web.de  wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:27:14 -0300 Marcos Douglasm...@delfire.net  wrote: Not so fast... here there

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Julio C. Taborda julio_tabo...@yahoo.com.ar wrote:   Best is to install stable FPC and then compile the SVN version with it. After that replace the stable with your newly created version. So, is it mandatory to install one version of FPC (to get

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:01:10PM -0300, Julio C. Taborda wrote: I didn't find a starting compiler for windows, but for linux, darwin and freebsd you can get ppcxxx from

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:05 AM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 7/22/2010 22:01, Reimar Grabowski wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:02:13 -0400 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net  wrote: Then you know what you are doing is that a requirement? especially when one simply wants to

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Juha Manninen
Marcos Douglas wrote torstai, 22. heinäkuuta 2010 20:09:54: BTW, At the moment we have two wiki pages about installing. Juha has started to clean up / update the 'Getting_Lazarus' page and put each target onto a page of its own, which IMO is better than putting every thing onto one page.

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/23/2010 10:34, Juha Manninen wrote: As a result the page became very long and the relevant information was very difficult to find. Other wiki pages have the same problem. now you know one of my main reasons for not liking wiki pages at all... here's another... if a wiki is supposed to

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-23 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:14:54 -0400, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: On 7/23/2010 10:34, Juha Manninen wrote: As a result the page became very long and the relevant information was very difficult to find. Other wiki pages have the same problem. now you know one of my main

[Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus, from sources of SVN, on Windows. Link: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Compiling.2Finstalling_FPC_and_Lazarus_from_Sources_of_SVN Just my 2 cents... :) Regards, MD -- ___ Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:01:05 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus, from sources of SVN, on Windows. Link:

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread shoKwave
On 22.07.2010 16:01, Marcos Douglas wrote: I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus, from sources of SVN, on Windows. Link: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Compiling.2Finstalling_FPC_and_Lazarus_from_Sources_of_SVN Hi, this is a good thing but I think it won't

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:33:08 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:01:05 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus,

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM, shoKwave shokw...@gmx.net wrote:  On 22.07.2010 16:01, Marcos Douglas wrote: I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus, from sources of SVN, on Windows. Link:

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:33:08 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: [snip] So, what do you want? I want you to explain to the wiki readers, what each step does and why it is needed, and what to do when

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread shoKwave
On 22.07.2010 18:53, Marcos Douglas wrote: I described in step #1: Dir: c:\freepascal\binutils\i386-win32\ URL: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcbuild/branches/fixes_2_4/install/binw32 Just open this URL in your preferred browser and see there's no ppc386.exe. You'll have to copy it from

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Kjow
2010/7/22 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net: I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus, from sources of SVN, on Windows. Link: http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Compiling.2Finstalling_FPC_and_Lazarus_from_Sources_of_SVN Just my 2 cents...  :) Regards, MD Just for

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Kjow antispamm...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/22 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net: I added a tuturial to compile and install FPC/Lazarus, from sources of SVN, on Windows. Link:

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:55:56 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: So, where is the ppc386.exe in SVN, exists? Of course not. No binaries in SVN, only source, as it should be. Best is to install stable FPC and then compile the SVN version with it. After that replace the stable with your

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Reimar Grabowski reimg...@web.de wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:55:56 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: So, where is the ppc386.exe in SVN, exists? Of course not. No binaries in SVN, only source, as it should be. Not so fast... here there are some

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Alexsander Rosa
IMHO the Wiki should have a basic and short tutorial: 1. Download FPC binaries (linkWin32 - linkLinux - linkOthers) 2. Install FPC (current ie 2.4.0) via install.sh or exe (default /usr/bin or $ProgramFiles) 3. Download (link for basic sources) FPC sources 4. Uncompress the sources somewhere (take

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:27:14 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: Not so fast... here there are some binaries: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcbuild/branches/fixes_2_4/install/binw32/ I really hope you know the difference between those binaries and ppc386.exe. So, is it mandatory to

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:38:19 -0300 Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO the Wiki should have a basic and short tutorial: 1. Download FPC binaries (linkWin32 - linkLinux - linkOthers) 2. Install FPC (current ie 2.4.0) via install.sh or exe (default /usr/bin or $ProgramFiles)

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Marcos Douglas
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Reimar Grabowski reimg...@web.de wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:27:14 -0300 Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote: Not so fast... here there are some binaries: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcbuild/branches/fixes_2_4/install/binw32/ I really hope you know the

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 10:33, Marcos Douglas wrote: So, what do you want? Delete all information about wince and x86_64 or somebody will complete these informations? i wouldn't delete them... i'm rather interested because i want/need to figure out how to cross compile for OS2 and linux... --

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 14:21, Reimar Grabowski wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:55:56 -0300 Marcos Douglasm...@delfire.net wrote: So, where is the ppc386.exe in SVN, exists? Of course not. No binaries in SVN, only source, as it should be. Best is to install stable FPC and then compile the SVN version

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 14:27, Marcos Douglas wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Reimar Grabowskireimg...@web.de wrote: Best is to install stable FPC and then compile the SVN version with it. After that replace the stable with your newly created version. So, is it mandatory to install one version

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 14:42, Reimar Grabowski wrote: Disclaimer: I am not a Windows guy and don't know what a exe is, means or does. :) in the DOS/Win world, the extension traditionally denotes what the file can do... .exe and .com are executables... .com files are basically memory snaps and

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 14:55, Marcos Douglas wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Reimar Grabowskireimg...@web.de wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:27:14 -0300 Marcos Douglasm...@delfire.net wrote: Not so fast... here there are some binaries:

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:07:41 -0400 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: there's a lot more to this story but this isn't the place for it and i'd have to really dig for more meaty info if it were desired ;) Very kind of you, but I know google, thanks. R. -- A: Because it messes up the

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:49:59 -0400 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: in other words, from a w2k box, if i grab the sources for i386-win and the sources for i386-linux and the sources for i386-OS2 and run the full compilation process, will i truly end up with the compilers for

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 18:55, Reimar Grabowski wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:49:59 -0400 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote: in other words, from a w2k box, if i grab the sources for i386-win and the sources for i386-linux and the sources for i386-OS2 and run the full compilation process, will i

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread Reimar Grabowski
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:02:13 -0400 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: Then you know what you are doing is that a requirement? especially when one simply wants to write a program (hello world for instance) and compile it for each of the available platforms ;) Understanding is

Re: [Lazarus] Tutorial Compiling/installing FPC and Lazarus from Sources of SVN

2010-07-22 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/22/2010 22:01, Reimar Grabowski wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:02:13 -0400 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote: Then you know what you are doing is that a requirement? especially when one simply wants to write a program (hello world for instance) and compile it for each of the