Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Santhoff
On Do, 2016-01-07 at 23:27 +0200, Juha Manninen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Dmitry Boyarintsev > wrote: > > Swastika = Nazis, by default these days. > > Ok, this must be a cultural difference then. It is. I'm living in Germany, and the law forbids the use of Nazi symbols. I don't k

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Santhoff
On Do, 2016-01-07 at 22:20 +0200, Juha Manninen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Marc Santhoff wrote: > > Maybe this discussion can be closed when the names are mangled for > > political correctness and/or there is a clear statement added in the > > unit in question. > > What is wrong wit

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Roberto P.
My 2 cents: 1) a program routine is just a program routine, like pencils or a paintbrush; neither of them is symbol. If you are not comfortable with that symbol (any symbol that can be offensive to anyone), you just have not to paint it and not to call the routine. Think about the difference! (Exa

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread wkitty42
On 01/07/2016 06:14 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: Even if you like the shape of the Nazi style Swastika, and have appreciation of its history in Finland, most everyone in the developed Western world now recognizes it as a symbol of Nazism, due to pure ignorance and lack of proper teaching of its tr

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Žilvinas Ledas
On 2016-01-08 01:14, Anthony Walter wrote: http://www.fallen.io/ww2/ In short, WW2 resulted in more deaths than any event in human history including the Black Death, the Napoleonic wars, the great Flu Pandemic of 1918, and Pol Pot anti intellectualism cleansing or chairman Mao's program of c

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Anthony Walter
> Napoleon conquered the world some 200 years ago. That is long enough as nobody seems to have strong negative association with his actions Follow this link if you want to see why WW2, and by extension the people who created it and the symbols they used, is such a big deal: http://www.fallen.io/w

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Juha Manninen
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Anthony Walter wrote: > Europe has long a history of anti semitism, something which most reasonable > people recognize. Perhaps this is the cultural difference you're touching > upon. Ok, maybe the sentiments around those issues are still so strong that it is har

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Anthony Walter
> Napoleon conquered the world some 200 years ago. That is long enough as nobody seems to have strong negative association with his actions Napoleon didn't try to exterminate a race of people by cooking 6 million of them in factory ovens 24/7. Europe has long a history of anti semitism, somethin

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Juha Manninen
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: > Swastika = Nazis, by default these days. Ok, this must be a cultural difference then. I have talked and read about this symbol in context of historical use and current use in India, and the word "swastika" had no such negative meaning t

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: > > What means "political correctness" exactly? > It's use of language. Use the words that would not provoke, insult of make feel bad anyone. I doubt the thread would ever come up, if the function were named PaintCrookedCross as Ondrej pointed

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Juha Manninen
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Marc Santhoff wrote: > Maybe this discussion can be closed when the names are mangled for > political correctness and/or there is a clear statement added in the > unit in question. What is wrong with the names? The symbol is called "swastika". https://en.wikipedi

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Juha Manninen
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Terry A. Haimann wrote: > As someone of Jewish heritage I say get rid of it. Mattias actually removed the function, obeying like a good German boy when somebody with "Jewish heritage" tells him. Uhhh, I can't believe he did so! I planned to write "let's stop this

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Santhoff
On Do, 2016-01-07 at 11:40 +0100, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:32:46 +0100 > Marc Santhoff wrote: > > >[...] > > > NB. The function was apparently introduced by Seppo (over 9 years ago) > > > > Who's that? A Nazi, historan or hindu? A joker most probably. > > Our Finnish tra

Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

2016-01-07 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:32:46 +0100 Marc Santhoff wrote: >[...] > > NB. The function was apparently introduced by Seppo (over 9 years ago) > > Who's that? A Nazi, historan or hindu? A joker most probably. Our Finnish translator since 12 years. Mattias -- ___