On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:24:04AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
(it might be wise to check out in how far these named programs are shared
linked)
True, those mentioned (and ones like ATI and Nvida drivers) tend to be
more on the commercial side of things. But then again, our company
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:30:31PM +0100, zeljko wrote:
On Thursday 21 January 2010 11:08, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 09:25:03AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
zeljko wrote:
Just because WMaker is not freedesktop compliant ? ;)
And?
And no default way
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:06:55AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
already implemented or at least went through the brain storming and design
idea phase. Here is our requirements and ideas we came up with:
* Linux distro independent setup. Against the normal methods, we do not
want to
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:50:17PM +0100, Kjow wrote:
2010/1/19 Paul Ishenin webpi...@mail.ru:
Yes, I increased ppu version because of change in the compiler I made. I
have no idea what is wrong in the script - it looks ok. Try to remove all
the ppu files manually.
Ok, so you are
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:28:39PM +0700, Paul Ishenin wrote:
I want to inform that trunk now requires fpc = 2.4.0 to compile.
Snapshots building is partly switched too. Please don't report any bugs
regards that :)
There are a lot of ver2_0 (2.0.4) related defines in unit intfgraphics,
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:38:28AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
directories?
That would be feasable, since the IDE (package manager) maintains a list of
all available packages.
But how does chmviewer know when to search directories and when not
too? For example, if I open ref.chm
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:11:23PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
very bad idea by the way.
Explain.
Unlike Windows, there is no default CHM viewer for Linux.
True. The default depends on desktop suite (gnome -gnorpm, KDE -
kchmviewer, rest mostly xchm or use a CHM plugin in mozilla)
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:06:52PM +0100, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Note that the dependancies bit even goes stronger when you also start to use
lhelp for application's help. Which is what I'm currently looking into, and
is a target for FPC 2.4.2.
Yesterday I converted a little delphi project
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 03:44:33PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Not even. I use ChmSee which is also GTK based, but is a lot faster
than GnoCHM. :-)
I use kchmviewer mostly to doublecheck, and simply XP/Vista's CHM support.
I had some problems with gnochm in the past, and the browser plugin
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:47:18PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/12/17 Lance Collins colli...@*.au:
... buy a larger monitor ??:-) ??I like the way you think. Quick and easy
solutions.
I can buy a 24 inch 1080p LCD monitor for $A209.
Perhaps Lazarus could standardize on
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:33:32AM +0100, Gerard N/A wrote:
working version of LCL 0.9.28.2 in DLL. It seems the fix might not be
difficult for someone who understands the LCL's internals. I'll
explain what I did hoping someone could work on it.
Am I wrong or this cannot be really fixed
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Marco Alvarado cronodra...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm really happy to inform that I solved the bug, and now I have a
working version of LCL 0.9.28.2 in DLL. It seems the fix might not be
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:59:46PM +0100, Christian Budde wrote:
Netscape is not created in lazarus, and doesn't communicate over plugin
interface using pascal types.
Which is exactly the problem packages try to solve. Please do not confuse
the situation more than necessary.
I don't
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 08:50:48PM +0100, Christian Budde wrote:
Without knowledge of LCL's internals, I tried to call those methods
and functions from the DLL's initialization section, but it didn't
work. The exception was gone, but the DLL still failed and broke the
debug information.
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:36:22PM +0100, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
I have some difficulties finding multiplatform equivalents working
with FPC/Lazarus. This must be complicated as those functions are about
shell
integration and each shell have it's own approach.
Isn't this more a
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:30:33PM +0100, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Why? Can you supply examples where simple versioning doesn't work in
open source projects?
The point is that the audience is different.
What is the purpose of a creating a 1.0 release:
(or of versioning policy in
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 01:38:06PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/11/29 Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl:
The serious users will consider the current restrained version policy as
more serious and see through a cheap spin.
That would be my view as well. Unfortunately we
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:24:31PM +0100, Marco van de Voort wrote:
- determine direct competitors
- determine their version numbers.
- versionnumer:=max(other versionnumbers)+1
its a clear policy (a new release always has the major release number of the
competition +1), and a suffix
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 09:40:50AM -0500, Michael Joyner ?? wrote:
It would also eliminate any confusion as what version of toolset you are
using. If it wasn't for that Linux Journal magazine getting me to
actually try the IDE combined with a very cheap Delphi 4 book, I
wouldn't be
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:12:24AM +0100, J?rgen Hestermann wrote:
And I think shortstring should generally be discouraged. The standard is
always 255 is enough, but sooner or later somebody hits it:
That's like saying that short integer types like byte or word should be
discouraged and
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:16:48AM +0100, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
all. Mapping this to different types dependend on compiler switches
or whatever is a can of worms. I would prefer that one of the clear
genuine string types is used directly. Lots of code is dependend on
the string type.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:14:05AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/11/11 Hess, Philip J pjh...@purdue.edu:
No idea. Maybe the lhelp develop knows the answer.
I doubt the Mac help viewer can. After all, CHM is a Microsoft format.
Hasn't CHM been abandoned by Microsoft due to
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:10:46AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
To be fair to all those users (including me). There was no mention
that LHelp is only meant for Lazarus and FPC documentation. Is is said
to be a CHM help viewer, so we use it as such. Especially Linux users
that might have
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:34:54PM +0100, Vincent Snijders wrote:
You can compare it (a bit) with the internal and external (gnu ld) linker
in the
windows compiler. Nobody uses the external linker on windows, except if
you think
there is a bug in the internal linker (or are using the
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:17:35AM +, Howard Page-Clark wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Marco van de Voort wrote:
This is not orthogonal. VAR parameters are generally updated
instantaniously. By delaying the update over a temp variable you break
another aspect of the VAR parameter.
I
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 06:51:06AM +0100, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Eventually the new Version of FPC will be used, and eventually all code
has to be able to be compiled with it
I have several suggestions:
- apply the new rules only in $mode Delphi
- use an (global) switch to
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 11:36:54AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Mattias G??rtner wrote:
Lazarus type signature: THelpEvent = function(Command: Word; Data:
PtrInt; var CallHelp: Boolean): Boolean of object;
Where Data is PHelpInfo. It is used by the widgetsets.
And which seems
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 10:30:34AM +0200, ik wrote:
I'm trying to install ZeosLib 6.6.5 on Lazarus 0.9.29 using FPC 2.2.5, and
it has a problem with the current code:
BaseFieldTypes: array[TFieldType] of TFieldType = (
ftUnknown, ftString, ftInteger, ftInteger, ftInteger, ftBoolean,
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:06:43PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Another patch has been entered btw. Delphi XML output.
What is that, Delphi XML? A new custom help format? If so, what
viewer does that use?
No, it is more something like Codegear/Borland's own variant of fpdoc's
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:59:49AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/10/23 Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl:
Another patch has been entered btw. Delphi XML output.
What is that, Delphi XML? A new custom help format? If so, what
viewer does that use?
No, it is more something like
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 05:19:16PM -0400, domini...@savagesoftwaresolutions.com
wrote:
/usr/local/share/fpcsrc/compiler/ppcrossppc -Ppowerpc -XX -CX -gl -Ur -Xs
-O2 -n -S2h -Fu/usr/local/share/fpcsrc/rtl/units/powerpc-darwin
-Fisrc/darwin -Fisrc -Fisrc/dummy -Fisrc/unix -FE.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 09:33:36AM +0200, jpnu...@free.fr wrote:
Some more for Thierry's question
Go on this address (may be you have to register yourself) and look for two
people : Chris37 and Alcatiz.
http://www.developpez.net/forums/f189/autres-langages/pascal/lazarus/
Brrr, that forum
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 05:19:16PM -0400, domini...@savagesoftwaresolutions.com
wrote:
I just updated my FPC SVN to 13908, on a clean machine, and it does not
build. I'm getting the error...
/usr/local/share/fpcsrc/compiler/ppcrossppc -Ppowerpc -XX -CX -gl -Ur -Xs
-O2 -n -S2h
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 02:58:52PM -0400, Andrew Haines wrote:
Start lcl.chm
Text Toc read time: 00.215
Bin Toc read time: 00.193
Text Index read time: 01.176
Bin Index read time: 00.375
Finish lcl.chm
Hmm, less than I thought. Probably this is because we build the chmsitemap
Last night I added binary index support to the CHM package, and
regenerated all CHM packages, and packaged a new snapshot (nr 7)
http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/doc-chm.zip
note that Michael is currently updating the docs for 2.4.0, and he hasn't
committed the bulk of the changes yet, so these
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:47:01AM -0400, Andrew Haines wrote:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
Last night I added binary index support to the CHM package, and
regenerated all CHM packages, and packaged a new snapshot (nr 7)
Remarks, suggestions etc, can be directed to me. I assume Andrew
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0400, Andrew Haines wrote:
So far only the lcl rtl and fcl chms are supported. To enable chm
support all you have to do is install
components/chm/packages/idehelp/chmhelppkg.lpk
In recent versions of lazarus this is all that's needed. In older
versions
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:39:01PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 11/10/2009, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Afaik the hyperlinks are generally ok. However that is in the textmode IDE
that cuts all label information (since the helpsystem abstraction doesn't
deal
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 09:09:13AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
As far as I know there is just one INF (IPF) tag format.
Well, it is similar in the sense that the average developer has to learn it,
contrary to basic HTML.
And looking at some of the websites out there, it seems
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
(several of these msgs ended up in my suspect box due to their mime aspects)
See my comments regarding HTML help formats...
OK, lhelp seems to have improved and now support Indexes - last time I
checked, it did not. lhelp also seems to be
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:07:04AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/10/2 Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl:
MS' help compiler is probably a lot faster too, this is the own lib.
I did not look at 'lhelp' code yet. Do you guys have your own CHM
reader library, or do you use a publicly
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:35:59PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/10/1 Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl:
There is no drawing in the FPC source. These diagrams are written by a
package. The PDF versions should be pretty hires. The png renderings for
html are bit less beautiful
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:55:55PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Explain module?
Bundles of help generated separately from eachother.
It's possible, and I have seen INF files that do that, but I don't
know the tag format involved. I'll search the INF Reference manual for
clues
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:02:21PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
By the way, why did you use line drawing in the syntax format
diagrams?
There is no drawing in the FPC source. These diagrams are written by a
package. The PDF versions should be pretty hires. The png renderings for
html are
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 01:19:58PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Do you have an overview of what works and what not, and practical aspects of
the system?
How do I generate the FCL and RTL documentation in INF (actually IPF) format?
You tell me! I'm not the IPF expert. I assumed you had
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 03:15:28PM -0500, German Gentile wrote:
I know you already know, just trying to help de developer of synapse libs
Lukas Gebauer, to find a solution to that problem.
I send he a email in the synapse list, and he is asking for that info:
Are there plans in the
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:53:30PM +0100, David W Noon wrote:
To do this, I used the GMP (Gnu Multiple Precision) library. Since I
do not [yet] have any Pascal bindings for this library, my test code
is written in C. However, there are some arbitrary precision packages
in the contributions
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 03:22:14PM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
The standard fpc.cfg is already suitable for multiple FPC versions. It
uses FPC macros. So you can install for example fpc 2.2.4, 2.2.5
and 2.5.1. You switch between them by switching the compiler
(/usr/lib/fpc/2.5.1/ppc386).
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:26:59PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Marco van de Voort het geskryf:
Or by fpc -V and -P
I fail to see how this helps? Also my FPC doesn't have a -V command line
option, only -vx for verbose output.
The -V and -P options are nearly as old as the buildfaq
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 05:17:29PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Then you don't want to use any of the many C libraries, out there? Like
lex, yacc, regexp, zip, SVN...
We can already statically link to C code, so what exactly is the point?
True, header converting is pain, but a
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 04:58:41PM +1000, Lance Collins wrote:
I suspect the attraction of C# is because if you are developing for
.NET it makes sense to use the language the evil empire uses or your
employer requires you to use.
Well that's certainly it. And going with the flow is certainly
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:19:00PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
How does a C front-end affect the Pascal front-end?
If it doesn't affect it, it has no use or what would you do with macros
in headers? If they aren't supported in the pascal front end
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 03:35:25PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
So you are suggesting a preprocessor that reads C and outputs Pascal? :-)
No, this were what ToPas does. Instead I suggest to skip the
intermediate Pascal code, and to compile the given source code immediately.
It
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 02:58:15PM +1100, Alexander Klenin wrote:
stuff in front of a declaration, instead after it. When I asked a question
about that, they were even surprised I doubted it at all. (worse, it was
Bob Swart!)
I agree that syntax is awkward, but I am afraid compatibility
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:17:26AM -0300, Osvaldo Filho wrote:
Support for dynamic libararies/package ; Is this like bpl?
Freepascal future plan
# Next major Version (2.4)
* Language:
o Support for DispInterface and dispid (OLE binding on Windows).
o Support for
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 06:48:42PM -0400, Doug Chamberlin wrote:
Alexander Klenin wrote:
So I request community for a suitable ideas -- projects should be
reasonably self-contained, not too hard, require actual coding and
be interesting enough to motivate students.
During the Embarcadero
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:44:59PM +0200, Vincent Snijders wrote:
This is a perfect example of fragmented documentation! Users do not
know where is what, or what is the newest / latest information. This
goes hand-in-hand with my request a while back to finalize the help
format for the
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:30:17PM +0200, Joost van der Sluis wrote:
That unit might require functionality that is not yet there, because
Codegear
does all new units in a static class style. (class var/const etc)
Yes, I saw that during one of their D2010 launch-sessions. Any idea why
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:25:20AM +0200, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Marco van de Voort schreef:
Good idea. I will try to make the wiki off line in 0.9.30.
Is there a way to regularly export from the wiki?
I think wikihelp can be used or adapted.
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 01:33:36PM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
I still haven't seen any practical use for the new RTTI modifier stuff.
Tag fields for endian correction in the header, and use a generic record
endianess correction routine?
--
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 10:48:13PM -0400, matt shaffer wrote:
I've come across a few projects now that require libc on Linux. I'm using
the latest Ubuntu (9.04) + Lazarus (9.26-4), and it says it can't find libc.
Library libc or unit libc? Is Ubuntu one of those distributions that
fragment FPC
Hello,
I uploaded a new snapshot of the docs in CHM format.
http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/doc-chm.zip
Fixes in this snapshot:
- the last snapshot had corrupted links - fixed.
- The ref manual has an initial index, generated from the ref.kwd file.
Still contains duplicates, but at least F1
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:25:13PM +0200, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I'll see if I can spend some time on this the coming days.
Done, was easier than I thought. It was .kwd btw.
First attempt at www.stack.nl/~marcov/ref.chm
Hmm, no such luck. While it showed in *nix ones, it fails
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 06:51:21PM +0200, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Could be. Due to tex4ht, you probably can't rely on the filename though, so
you would have to index the anchors in all files, and then fixup the
references.
I'll see if I can spend some time on this the coming days.
Done
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:14:12PM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
[...]
Btw, there is a new kid in town: ParallelSort.
This uses a parallel mergesort and automatically uses several
threads. See here:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Parallel_procedures#Example:_parallel_sort
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
(Sorry was in Hasselt for a few days)
keyword 'procedure'?
Currently it can't, since the keywords are not part of the HTML and
therefor
not part of the CHM.
keywords are difficult, but procedures work fine. Simply merge the
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:40:50PM +0200, Mattias G??rtner wrote:
FPDoc has support for keywords in the sense that you can refer to a topic
with the name of the keyword.
For the HTML help (user/programmer/ref manual) I implemented the support for
keywords at your request ?
Hehe. Yes,
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:58:34PM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:26:40PM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
works well and does not require to much code changes, it could be wrapped
in
IFDEF's for more advanced users that want to try it for themselves.
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 07:29:11PM +0200, Florian Klaempfl wrote:
International Olympiad in Informatics
allows only c++ and free pascal.
Provided editors : ... lazarus ...
http://www.ioi2009.org/index.jsp;jsessionid=F84941DF0A0EE4138BC2E44BA6DBE5EB?ln=2id=361
Does anybody know
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:09:02PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
Does Delphi or Kylix have the compilers built-in or do they work similar
to Lazarus IDE?
AFAIK the Delphi IDE comes with an built-in compiler.
A dll. Not statically built in. Afaik cmdline
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:19:11AM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
And having compiler and linker in separate (asynchronous) threads
would be the same as starting them as a new process in asynchronous
mode. It would open a can of worms because of synchronising problems.
They only share
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:37:56AM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
-various compiler versions
-compiler crashes do not effect the IDE
Good enough for me NOT to do it. If the compiler was internal to the
IDE, I could not easily compile for 32/64 bit or a different version,
without
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:01:38PM +0200, Florian Klaempfl wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb:
So wouldn't it be more efficient to create a new thread for the
compiler instead of a new process?
Efficient, yes;
As I pointed out on fpc-core a few days ago, I'd like to create an fpc
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:42:33AM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
No blocking is done.
There is, however, an issue with some ISPs. The router to our ISP has a
non-standard packet window size. Not all routers from other ISP's can handle
this. This results in e.g. ping working fine, but
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:06:57AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Nice one, Marco. Now can this be integrated with Lazarus IDE some how?
There is the chmhelp package. I also already translated the Windows CHM
api, so an attempt at native CHM support might be doable also.
However I mostly
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:54:35PM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Vincent Snijders wrote:
It is to show the splash screen as soon as possible, not to wait until
yet another executable is loaded.
Well then we are talking about milliseconds really. A splash screen is
normally show just
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:18:23AM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I was looking at my system processes and noticed that 'startlazarus' is
consuming 26.7MB virtual memory 14.5MB physical memory. Now I'm not 100%
sure what the difference is
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:24:01AM +0200, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I was looking at my system processes and noticed that 'startlazarus' is
consuming 26.7MB virtual memory 14.5MB physical memory. Now I'm not
And to make sure that I am reading the memory usage
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:37:00PM +0200, Robert wrote:
I tried to use current http://code.google.com/p/python4delphi with
Lazarus. Did somebody use P4D successfully with recent Lazarus?
Patches? I face a few problems.
P4D worked principally with Lazarus, but only after a few a
adaptations.
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:28:57PM -0400, matt shaffer wrote:
Ah ok, thanks for clearing that up
For more background info, try to read http://wiki.freepascal.org/packages
most notably the part about state and VMTs
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