Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-04 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 3 March 2012 22:37, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I type text, and latex makes a layout that is 99% perfect; I really don't care about the last 1%. I've never been able to achieve the same speed with any wordprocessor. Make no mistake, latex makes beautiful documents (so can OpenOffice), but

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?u

2012-03-04 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 3 March 2012 22:20, Marco van de Voort wrote: With OO I'm always thinking about how I got the effect in that way. In Latex if I have something the way it should look, I at the same time have the way to duplicate it. If the effect was applied using a Style (which is what you should have

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-04 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 3 March 2012 22:37, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I type text, and latex makes a layout that is 99% perfect; I really don't care about the last 1%. I've never been able to achieve the same speed with any wordprocessor. Make no mistake, latex

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-04 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 3 Mar 2012, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: I type text, and latex makes a layout that is 99% perfect; I really don't care about the last 1%. I've never been able to achieve the same speed with any wordprocessor. I don't see a difference here. In a

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-04 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Sunday, 4 March 2012, Michael Van Canneyt michae.org wrote: Latex applies the styles automatically, which is one of the reasons I forced it on the help writers here in the company. Technically, in is not done automatically. You have to tell latex that you are working on a chapter,

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
I've have to check the version for you when I am back at work on Monday, but I think I have LibreOffice 3.5.0 (not 100% sure though). -- Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://fpgui.sourceforge.net --

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-03 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 03/03/2012, Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with secretary's editors like MS Word or Open/LibreOffice is that they waste user's time with formatting and other non-content related activities. With LaTeX and derivatives such as LyX, the user is free to be

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?u

2012-03-03 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: I can honestly say, in my experience LaTeX just made me slower. I had to fight to figure out how to get certain text to display correctly, because it was constantly some or other reserved LaTeX tag some something. For me it is the other way

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 3 Mar 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 03/03/2012, Alexsander Rosa alexsander.r...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with secretary's editors like MS Word or Open/LibreOffice is that they waste user's time with formatting and other non-content related activities. With LaTeX and

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-03 Thread Andrew Haines
On 03/03/2012 03:37 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: If you want everything placed just there with just that width and whatnot, then LaTeX is indeed not your tool, you need a desktop publishing tool. I type text, and latex makes a layout that is 99% perfect; I really don't care about the last

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-03 Thread Rich Saunders
On 3/3/12 4:14 PM, Andrew Haines wrote: I of course recommend WordPerfect though the Windows version never achieved the same usability as the dos version :) +1000 I've even found the recent Windows versions to be equal to the DOS version. Ignoring WordPerfect has been one of the biggest

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-03 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: I type text, and latex makes a layout that is 99% perfect; I really don't care about the last 1%. I've never been able to achieve the same speed with any wordprocessor. I don't see a difference here. In a wordprocessor I define templates which can be applied to

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to do a 'svn diff' might be an issue. Git has a filter that converts ODT files to text before it shows such a diff, so in Git it is not a problem either. I don't know if svn supports such a feature. If you

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote: If you use tortoiseSVN it does support showing the differences between document files. I was amazed when I first saw and it clearly something new (maybe 1 or 2 years, dont know) Oh yes, and it

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 02/03/2012 09:04, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote: If you use tortoiseSVN it does support showing the differences between document files. I was amazed when I first saw and it clearly

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread leledumbo
Oh yes, and it shows them grafically, not as raw text. Now that's something I don't know :) -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Contribute-to-a-book-instead-of-wiki-tp3789922p3793507.html Sent from the Free Pascal - Lazarus mailing list

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Alexsander Rosa
I suggest convert it to LyX format. 2012/3/2 leledumbo leledumbo_c...@yahoo.co.id Oh yes, and it shows them grafically, not as raw text. Now that's something I don't know :) -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Contribute-to-a-book

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2012/3/2 Alexsander Rosa : I suggest convert it to LyX format. No need really. The newer OpenOffice and LibreOffice also supports the Flattened ODT format (older versions of OOo can install the plugin for this too). That is basically just an XML file (no zip archive like ODT). This makes it much

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Alexsander Rosa
The problem with secretary's editors like MS Word or Open/LibreOffice is that they waste user's time with formatting and other non-content related activities. With LaTeX and derivatives such as LyX, the user is free to be productive. When I was working on my MSc paper, ages ago, I wrote some 40

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-02 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Freitag, den 02.03.2012, 23:49 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: 2012/3/2 Alexsander Rosa : I suggest convert it to LyX format. No need really. The newer OpenOffice and LibreOffice also supports the Flattened ODT format (older versions of OOo can install the plugin for this too). That is

[Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-01 Thread Reinier Olislagers
Hi list, Noticed some people said they don't want to contribute to the Lazarus wiki for various reasons. If those people want to contribute their knowledge and help others with it, there are alternatives, such as the Object Pascal/Lazarus book by forum member motaz (Motaz Abdel Azeem):

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-01 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 1-3-2012 12:05, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Reinier Olislagers schrieb: Hi list, Noticed some people said they don't want to contribute to the Lazarus wiki for various reasons. If those people want to contribute their knowledge and help others with it, there are alternatives,

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Reinier Olislagers schrieb: Essentially the same problem: where to search for existing documentation? I don't really see your problem. What do you mean with existing documentation? Link/refer from the book to the wiki and vice versa. Okay, so far, but how many documentation sources will be

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-01 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 1-3-2012 16:54, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Reinier Olislagers schrieb: Essentially the same problem: where to search for existing documentation? I don't really see your problem. What do you mean with existing documentation? Link/refer from the book to the wiki and vice versa. Okay,

Re: [Lazarus] Contribute to a book instead of wiki?

2012-03-01 Thread leledumbo
The book seems to be written with OpenOffice.org / LibreOffice, that would be difficult to track changes. -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Lazarus-Contribute-to-a-book-instead-of-wiki-tp3789922p3792385.html Sent from the Free Pascal - Lazarus