Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: 2012/3/28 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaertnma@...: Here it takes only a few minutes. +1 I see no visible difference in speed between my native host system, and the VM sessions I run. I have a lot of VM sessions for our product testing and building, and yes, I do FPC

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 29 March 2012 10:13, Hans-Peter Diettrich DrDiettrich1@... wrote: IMO the most critical point is the memory configuration. VMs tend to use I think so too. I never starve my host OS from memory. I have 4GB installed in my system. My host OS (Ubuntu 10.04) uses on average 45% of that for

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-29 Thread Kjow
2012/3/29 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: Obviously it is also vital to install the VirtualBox Guest Additions to improve guest OS performance. This makes a huge difference too. 3D video drivers are very bad on virtual OS, so is not possible to develop for 3D graphics on VirtualBox,

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-29 Thread Sven Barth
Am 29.03.2012 14:37, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Kjow schrieb: 2012/3/29 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: Obviously it is also vital to install the VirtualBox Guest Additions to improve guest OS performance. This makes a huge difference too. 3D video drivers are very bad on

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-29 Thread Kjow
2012/3/29 Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com: Right, but why should somebody want to *develop* such applications for a different platform, instead for the platform of his physical machine? Herefore, and for other time-critical applications, a dual boot of the target OS is the better

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-29 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: Am 29.03.2012 14:37, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Kjow schrieb: 2012/3/29 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com: Obviously it is also vital to install the VirtualBox Guest Additions to improve guest OS performance. This makes a huge difference too. 3D video drivers

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 27-3-2012 19:26, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Reinier Olislagers wrote: I would strongly recommend using VMs as well so that the level of complexity/maintenance decreases. Linux to Windows can be done, but the other way round is difficult. I'd introduce some words of caution here, for a

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:57:46 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/3/27 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaertnma@: Maybe someone wants to setup VM image for public download for his favorite distribution with preinstalled Lazarus and other common development tools.

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Antonio Fortuny
Le 27/03/2012 17:17, patspiper a écrit : This is related to bug 0021580: Feature request: Robust IDE cross-compiling. With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of different Linux scripts to compile FPC from source (including cross compilation), maybe the time has

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:44:37PM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of different Linux scripts to compile FPC from source (including cross compilation), maybe the time has come to have an automated installer that does all

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl hat am 28. März 2012 um 17:10 geschrieben: [...] That is one approach. Another is to use VMs. Too slow. Tried it for FPC release building, but checkout, export + build takes 40 mins (Core2 6600. Virtualbox with hardware virtualization enabled) Here it

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: takes 40 mins (Core2 6600. Virtualbox with hardware virtualization enabled) Here it takes only a few minutes. With what on what? How is storage organized? I mostly tried under Windows, but before virtualbox I used VMWare

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl hat am 28. März 2012 um 18:15 geschrieben: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: takes 40 mins (Core2 6600. Virtualbox with hardware virtualization enabled) Here it takes only a few minutes. With what on what? I simply

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2012/3/28 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaertnma@...: Here it takes only a few minutes. +1 I see no visible difference in speed between my native host system, and the VM sessions I run. I have a lot of VM sessions for our product testing and building, and yes, I do FPC building on them too. --

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-28 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 28 March 2012 18:15, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 05:21:22PM +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: takes 40 mins (Core2 6600. Virtualbox with hardware virtualization enabled) Here it takes only a few minutes. With what on what? How is storage organized?

[Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread patspiper
This is related to bug 0021580: Feature request: Robust IDE cross-compiling. With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of different Linux scripts to compile FPC from source (including cross compilation), maybe the time has come to have an automated installer that does

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread Mattias Gaertner
patspiper patspi...@gmail.com hat am 27. März 2012 um 17:17 geschrieben: This is related to bug 0021580: Feature request: Robust IDE cross-compiling. With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of different Linux scripts to compile FPC from source (including cross

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 27-3-2012 17:44, Mattias Gaertner wrote: patspiper patspi...@gmail.com hat am 27. März 2012 um 17:17 geschrieben: This is related to bug 0021580: Feature request: Robust IDE cross-compiling. With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of different Linux scripts

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread patspiper
On 27/03/12 18:44, Mattias Gaertner wrote: patspiper patspi...@gmail.com hat am 27. März 2012 um 17:17 geschrieben: This is related to bug 0021580: Feature request: Robust IDE cross-compiling. With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of different Linux

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Reinier Olislagers wrote: On 27-3-2012 17:44, Mattias Gaertner wrote: patspiper patspi...@gmail.com hat am 27. März 2012 um 17:17 geschrieben: This is related to bug 0021580: Feature request: Robust IDE cross-compiling. With Lazarus 1.0 being closer than ever, and with the availability of

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 27 March 2012 17:17, patspiper patspiper@gmail wrote: The complement for Lazarus would be the ability to import/export the default project options with build modes. My default build modes include Default, Linux/i386, Win32/i386, Linux/arm, and WinCE/arm. The 1st base question that

Re: [Lazarus] FPC Lazarus installation including cross compiling from source

2012-03-27 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2012/3/27 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaertnma@: Maybe someone wants to setup VM image for public download for his favorite distribution with preinstalled Lazarus and other common development tools. Microsoft and Apple would love you for pirating and distributing their OS's illegally. :-) What you