On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 18:48:29 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> Paul Ishenin wrote:
>
> > The problem as I see it:
> >
> > 1. Lazarus developers and users want to be informed about lazarus
> > problems and we need a place to discuss them.
>
> Perhaps we need a lazarus-devel ML, which while not
Paul Ishenin wrote:
The problem as I see it:
1. Lazarus developers and users want to be informed about lazarus
problems and we need a place to discuss them.
Perhaps we need a lazarus-devel ML, which while not being
invitation-only is /very/ strictly moderated. "How do I use Lazarus"
questi
2010/7/3, dmitry boyarintsev :
> There's Lazarus-other list.
>
> PLEASE STOP mailing here!
I will moderate posts in this thread.
Vincent
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There's Lazarus-other list.
PLEASE STOP mailing here!
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:36:19 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 3 July 2010 12:41, Reimar Grabowski wrote:
> > This comparision is exactly the disrespect I am talking about.
>
> Nope you still don't get what I mean...
I get exactly what you mean, but you don't get that you choose the wrong way
On 03/07/2010 11:15, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Make one comment which the "Gods" frown upon, and
your and banished to the *-other mailing lists (which nobody cares to
read). So this is in a way insulting that person saying we don't want
you here, so f***k off. Maybe that's just what I have to do -
Henry Vermaak schrieb:
This is just offensive nonsense (and Godwin's law). The moderation
here is always courteous, well explained and above board (at least
when I've experienced it). How will off topic trolling take a project
further?
Isn't it time now, to move *this* thread to the Lazarus-
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:15:42 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> I simply compared how they were treated and everything they were
> not allowed to do - in relation to these mailing lists.
You just don't get it, do you?
This comparision is exactly the disrespect I am talking about.
This is a mailing l
03.07.2010 18:15, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Make one comment which the "Gods" frown upon, and
your and banished to the *-other mailing lists (which nobody cares to
read).
There are problems which needs to be solved somehow. -other mailing
lists is the solution. Maybe not the perfect.
The probl
On 3 July 2010 02:00, Reimar Grabowski wrote:
>
> This is not funny at all. And your disrespect for the more then 6 million
> murdered people is very alarming.
Next time read your emails with more care before accusing me of
something. I did not insult any of the people affected in that tragic
time
On 3 July 2010 02:41, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote:
>
> Aha, the Godwin's law: As an online discussion grows longer, the
Please quote where I mentioned fpGUI is better than Lazarus in this
message thread. I have no idea what you read or where you read it, but
it was clearly not something I wrote
On 3 July 2010 00:09, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 2 July 2010 18:11, Henry Vermaak wrote:
>>
>> This is not a democracy, we have a list moderator that steers these things
>> and keeps the spam away.
>
> I'm all for a list moderator doing its job - with a bit of moderation
> obviously. Being a l
2010/7/2 Reimar Grabowski :
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:09:58 +0200
> Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
>> Some
>> take their "hobby" way to serious here, and treats the mailing lists
>> like the Nazi Camps from way back.
>
> You should think before you write mails. This is a very serious advice.
> Comparing
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:09:58 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Some
> take their "hobby" way to serious here, and treats the mailing lists
> like the Nazi Camps from way back.
You should think before you write mails. This is a very serious advice.
Comparing anything today to this time shows clearl
On 2 July 2010 18:11, Henry Vermaak wrote:
>
> This is not a democracy, we have a list moderator that steers these things
> and keeps the spam away.
I'm all for a list moderator doing its job - with a bit of moderation
obviously. Being a list moderator / core developer or having a bit of
the "god
On 2 July 2010 19:04, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
>
> The less people can spam on mailing lists, the more they can code.
And here I thought multi-tasking is a common practice these days. :-)
Maybe not everybody is as good at it as I thought.
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On 2 July 2010 17:55, Jürgen Hestermann wrote:
>> This is not a democracy, we have a list moderator that steers these things
>> and keeps the spam away.
>
> I thought Free Pascal is open source. Such an arrogant attitude will not
Open source doesn't mean democracy, where did you get that idea? O
Florian Klämpfl http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus>> wrote:
The less people can spam on mailing lists, the more they can code. Since
experience showed that code contribuitions is usually reciprocally
proportional to the generated mailing list noise by a person
Hehe,
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:04:32 +0200
Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> The less people can spam on mailing lists, the more they can code. Since
> experience showed that code contribuitions is usually reciprocally
> proportional to the generated mailing list noise by a person, moderation
> is often a good th
Jürgen Hestermann schrieb:
>> This is not a democracy, we have a list moderator that steers these
>> things and keeps the spam away.
>
> I thought Free Pascal is open source. Such an arrogant attitude will not
> help to promote Free Pascal very much. An "go away if you don't like it"
> is not the
This is not a democracy, we have a list moderator that steers these
things and keeps the spam away.
I thought Free Pascal is open source. Such an arrogant attitude will not help to promote Free Pascal very much. An "go away if you don't like it" is not the spirit of enthusiastical Pascal program
On 02/07/10 16:18, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2 July 2010 16:51, Vincent Snijders wrote:
And by no means others must be forced to receive and scan off topic
mails on the Lazarus list.
And then comes the other problem What you might consider "off
topic", I and others might consider "on to
On 7/2/2010 11:44 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Just a little correction: Although Adem has participated much in the
parser thread, it was Hans-Peter Diettrich who started it.
Thanks, Sven!
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Am 02.07.2010 17:29, schrieb Doug Chamberlin:
The real problem as I see it (bringing this back to the current
situation) is that Adem failed to see that the parser thread really
should have been moved to an FPC list from the Lazarus list. If that had
been done a while back I believe everyone
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:18:15 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> And then comes the other problem What you might consider "off
> topic", I and others might consider "on topic". This is what Jürgen
> and I am talking about (including lost mails due to multiple lists and
> info fragmentation).
No
From a different perspective I could say "Manage your mailing lists!".
I subscribe to about 20 different mailing lists. In some cases several
of them all funnel into one local folder via my email client. I then
review that folder for interesting stuff and ignore the threads I am not
interested
On 2 July 2010 16:51, Vincent Snijders wrote:
> And by no means others must be forced to receive and scan off topic
> mails on the Lazarus list.
And then comes the other problem What you might consider "off
topic", I and others might consider "on topic". This is what Jürgen
and I am talking a
> I am with Graeme here. Having "..other" lists is of no reason to me. There
> is no strict distinction between the threats. Just making the subject line
> speaking would be enough. If I want to organize the mails I can do that in
> my email client as *I* like it. I don't want others doing this fo
Henry Vermaak schrieb:
No, all the crap can go to the other list, so things will be _easier_ to
find and _easier_ to read. This is great because I can subscribe to
that list and ignore it (unless I'm bored).
I am with Graeme here. Having "..other" lists is of no reason to me. There is
no stric
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:25:25 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Then while Vincent is at it, why not create a few more - to keep
> things organized. Here are some suggestions: [note the sarcasm].
>
> lazarus-ide-support
> lazarus-lcl-support
> lazarus-lcl-devel
> lazarus-ide-devel
> laza
On 02/07/10 13:45, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2 July 2010 14:37, Henry Vermaak wrote:
How did you come to the conclusion that I don't know how to use my email
client?
Please move this discussion to lazarus-other, it is very off-topic here.
Haha, and you wonder why you wind people up the wr
On 2 July 2010 14:37, Henry Vermaak wrote:
>
> How did you come to the conclusion that I don't know how to use my email
> client?
Please move this discussion to lazarus-other, it is very off-topic here.
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On 02/07/10 13:21, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2 July 2010 14:00, Henry Vermaak wrote:
No, all the crap can go to the other list, so things will be _easier_ to
find and _easier_ to read. This is great because I can subscribe to that
list and ignore it (unless I'm bored).
And you can't do the
2010/7/2 Graeme Geldenhuys :
> On 2 July 2010 14:11, Vincent Snijders wrote:
>>
>> No, I did not add the other lists either. Feel free to request it to Gmane.
>
> Only list admins can request Gmane mirrors.
I don't see that on http://gmane.org/subscribe.php. Unless you
consider lazarus-other as "a
On 02/07/10 13:29, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2 July 2010 14:11, Vincent Snijders wrote:
No, I did not add the other lists either. Feel free to request it to Gmane.
This is exactly my point - information gets lost or fragmented now.
They will not be searchable by somebody that subscribes 3 m
On 2 July 2010 14:11, Vincent Snijders wrote:
>
> No, I did not add the other lists either. Feel free to request it to Gmane.
This is exactly my point - information gets lost or fragmented now.
They will not be searchable by somebody that subscribes 3 months from
now (default Mailman archives are
On 2 July 2010 13:38, Reimar Grabowski wrote:
>
> I am a clairvoyant. I knew that you would say this.
You win a gold star.
> And what you call fragmentation other people call order (yeah, we germans can
> be a little anal when it comes to this).
Then while Vincent is at it, why not create a few
On 2 July 2010 14:00, Henry Vermaak wrote:
>
> No, all the crap can go to the other list, so things will be _easier_ to
> find and _easier_ to read. This is great because I can subscribe to that
> list and ignore it (unless I'm bored).
And you can't do the same with this list, by simply looking a
2010/7/2 Graeme Geldenhuys :
> On 2 July 2010 11:49, Vincent Snijders wrote:
>> For those discussions a new mailing list has been created. You can
>> subscribe here:
> Did you request it be added to Gmane too?
No, I did not add the other lists either. Feel free to request it to Gmane.
Vincent
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On 02/07/10 12:13, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2 July 2010 11:49, Vincent Snijders wrote:
For those discussions a new mailing list has been created. You can
subscribe here:
Oh boy! We need *less* mailing lists, not *more*. Information will
now get fragmented even more. :-(
No, all the cra
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:13:05 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Oh boy! We need *less* mailing lists, not *more*. Information will
> now get fragmented even more. :-(
I am a clairvoyant. I knew that you would say this.
The reason seems to be that some people are only subscribed to the Lazarus li
Information will now get fragmented even more. And who subscribed to this
list will now get what he expects and not tons of slightly (or not) related
mails. I personally have never experienced gmail having a problem searching
one more list.
Thanks from me, too!
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On 2 July 2010 11:49, Vincent Snijders wrote:
> For those discussions a new mailing list has been created. You can
> subscribe here:
Oh boy! We need *less* mailing lists, not *more*. Information will
now get fragmented even more. :-(
BTW:
Did you request it be added to Gmane too?
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:49:59 +0200
Vincent Snijders wrote:
> For those discussions a new mailing list has been created. You can
> subscribe here:
> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus-other
Good choice. Thanks for doing this.
Greetings
R.
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On 02/07/10 10:49, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Lately I have noticed that the Lazarus list has been (mis-)used for
discussion not really related to Lazarus. The current parser thread is
an example of that.
For those discussions a new mailing list has been created. You can
subscribe here:
http://list
Lately I have noticed that the Lazarus list has been (mis-)used for
discussion not really related to Lazarus. The current parser thread is
an example of that.
For those discussions a new mailing list has been created. You can
subscribe here:
http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/laz
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