On 05/18/2011 06:53 PM, Lee Jenkins wrote:
If I were to pick this project up again, I would probably go with
Appcellerator or PhoneGap for the GUI front end.
IMHO if such a project indeed would be (re-)started, it should be done
without much considering the remote site, so that it is as
On Thursday 19 May 2011 10:12:47 Michael Schnell wrote:
But before even starting anything, a major hurdle is, that there are
several Widget Types available in Lazarus, but not a single one
provides decent Event Driven Programming (such as TTimer,
Synchronize and QueuAsyncCall) without
On 05/19/2011 10:28 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
Michael, why do you bother Lazarus people with all this if MSEide+MSEgui has
all what you need already? Simply use MSEide+MSEgui, no?
Great to see the inventor of ifi here again :-) !
I would not have continued my research on this since years,
On 05/19/2011 10:56 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:
To allow for running software on the upcoming Linux based devices...
Not only those we build ourselves, but Android devices apply here, too.
-Michael
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On 05/11/2011 01:39 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
If you are talking about the tweet post referenced on the article you
posted, then that is from November 2010, while the news of Mono
getting killed are brand new.
Icaza founded _Xamarin_ http://www.xamarin.com/ to go on with the
On 5/11/2011 6:44 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 05/11/2011 10:18 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
But my personal opinion is that neither cil NOR jvm is a valid target for
Lazarus/FPC (regardless of the fact if you think bytecode is the way to go
or not).
Agreed ! Lazarus/FPC is all about native
Am 12.05.2011 11:11, schrieb michael.vancann...@wisa.be:
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:27:22AM +0200, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl
wrote:
Lazarus is not suitable for trying
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Sven Barth
pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
For one of our customers we have started to develop a mobile version of our
application (around one and a half year ago) and there the restriction is:
no online connection. So we're using a synchronize scenario with
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Yes. And we have neither the interested developers nor fulltimers to be
quick enough to track fastmoving targets, which was mostly my point.
At some point implementing a LCL widgetset based on that was on my
plans, but
Am 13.05.2011 13:37, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Sven Barth
pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
For one of our customers we have started to develop a mobile version of our
application (around one and a half year ago) and there the restriction is:
no
On 05/12/2011 11:02 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
A side concern is the walled garden concept of many mobile phones. They
don't exactly encourage portable software, but want custom made apps for
their phones, preferably with their recommended tools.
A free (payed support offered) cross platform
On 05/13/2011 01:53 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
Indeed. Windows CE and Meego were the best platforms to develop for,
the most standard compliant ones. WinCE being compliant with Win32 and
Meego with Linux, but both are dead now.
... and Android starting to become the Standard in the
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 01:21:42PM +0200, Michael Schnell wrote:
I suppose Mono will be transformed in a community project
But as always
Microsoft will try to use his legal staff against concurrent
technologies. They could not do this to Novell, as they had an agreement
about mutual
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:27:22AM +0200, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Lazarus is not suitable for trying to follow fast moving trends. Iphone
was just yesterday,
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:11:00AM +0200, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
their phones, preferably with their recommended tools.
Hence the conclusion: a web application is probably the best way to go when
developing business apps for the mobile.
(at least, that's what we concluded here
On 05/12/2011 11:11 AM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
Hence the conclusion: a web application is probably the best way to go
when
developing business apps for the mobile.
Do you mean: Using Android's browser as a GUI and have it connect to a
server done with FPC and running as a daemon
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 05/12/2011 11:11 AM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
Hence the conclusion: a web application is probably the best way to go when
developing business apps for the mobile.
Do you mean: Using Android's browser as a GUI and have it connect to a
On 05/12/2011 12:14 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
I would not do it locally.
I see. But supposedly, doing a local web server in fact is a way to use
FPC to create a GUI enabled application for Android.
-Michael
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On Thursday 12 of May 2011 12:14:50 michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 05/12/2011 11:11 AM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
Hence the conclusion: a web application is probably the best way to go
when developing business apps for the mobile.
On Thu, 12 May 2011, zeljko wrote:
On Thursday 12 of May 2011 12:14:50 michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 05/12/2011 11:11 AM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
Hence the conclusion: a web application is probably the best way to go
when
On 05/10/2011 08:21 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:23:57PM +0200, Michael Schnell wrote:
Hmm,
The big thing is Android !!!
And if you want to capitalize on it, you need to be ready now, not only
start.
Lazarus is not suitable for trying to follow fast moving trends.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Michael Schnell wrote:
And if you want to capitalize on it, you need to be ready now, not only
start.
Lazarus is not suitable for trying to follow fast moving trends. Iphone
was just yesterday, and even that is not really ready.
Yep.
OTOH,
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Lazarus is not suitable for trying to follow fast moving trends. Iphone
was just yesterday, and even that is not really ready.
I don't think that Lazarus is a bad choice for smartphone platforms,
it would be a great tool
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Marco van de Voort mar...@stack.nl wrote:
Maybe, but only if some dominant vendor emerges that standarizes a certain
set of features across its line. This is now chaos.
I don't think it is that bad. Software written for Android usually
works out of the box if
On 05/11/2011 10:27 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
MonoTouch does the same thing Lazarus intends to do, but they are more
successful because they have money.
... Up to yesterday. Now as Novell has been bought by Attachmate the
future of Mono might be uncertain. (cui bono ? )
-Michael
On Wed, 11 May 2011, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 05/11/2011 10:27 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
MonoTouch does the same thing Lazarus intends to do, but they are more
successful because they have money.
... Up to yesterday. Now as Novell has been bought by Attachmate the future
of
On 05/11/2011 10:18 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
But my personal opinion is that neither cil NOR jvm is a valid target for
Lazarus/FPC (regardless of the fact if you think bytecode is the way to go
or not).
Agreed ! Lazarus/FPC is all about native code. It would be close to
impossible to
On 05/11/2011 01:03 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
Mono will be killed.
Miguel de Icaza contradicts.
But as in fact Microsoft is part of the deal
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/whats-microsofts-role-in-the-novell-attachmate-deal/8041
I suppose you are right.
I suppose Mono
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
Miguel de Icaza contradicts.
If you are talking about the tweet post referenced on the article you
posted, then that is from November 2010, while the news of Mono
getting killed are brand new.
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Felipe Monteiro de
It seems the whole world is going mobile computing nuts!!
http://www.osnews.com/story/24713/Nokia_Announces_Qt_5_Plans
My thoughts on pushing those mobile computing UI interfaces into the
desktop application space is rather negative. eg: Unity in Ubuntu, Gnome
Shell in Gnome 3 - clearly all
Very strange. Nokia already sold the business of offering service to
Qt developers, and it fired most of the MeeGo department, so it
doesn't use Qt in it's own products and doesn't sell services based on
it. Why would it work in Qt 5? I'd rather have them stay far away from
it, since I don't see
Hmm,
The big thing is Android !!!
So doing Lazarus for Android would be essential.
I do know that there are several ways to do this, but IMHO, the most
decent best integrated (though most painful) way would be not to use a
second non-Android GUI-framework (such as QT) but somehow make the
On 10/05/2011 13:23, Michael Schnell wrote:
Android controls usable for Lazarus programs. I supposed this would ask
for some kind of local remote GUI, i.e. serializing the GUI
communication by some kind of byte stream and do a java based remote
GUI handler application on the Android site.
On 10/05/2011 13:18, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
it. Why would it work in Qt 5? I'd rather have them stay far away from
it, since I don't see anything good coming from Nokia these days.
I don't have much faith in Nokia either these days. They don't even know
what they really want. I
On 05/10/2011 01:54 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
MSEgui has some remote GUI via serializing support,
Yep. This is originally an idea of Martin's and his name for it is ifi
(nobody knows what this means :-) ). AFAIK, this is an unfinished open
source project he once started and abandoned at
On Tuesday 10 of May 2011 12:41:02 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
It seems the whole world is going mobile computing nuts!!
http://www.osnews.com/story/24713/Nokia_Announces_Qt_5_Plans
My thoughts on pushing those mobile computing UI interfaces into the
desktop application space is rather
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
graemeg.li...@gmail.comwrote:
code when done. The whole JavaScript thing scares me too, but that is
maybe just because I'm not very proficient in JavaScript.
Just what we need.. a program that you can publish that doesn't show any
errors
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:23:57PM +0200, Michael Schnell wrote:
Hmm,
The big thing is Android !!!
And if you want to capitalize on it, you need to be ready now, not only
start.
Lazarus is not suitable for trying to follow fast moving trends. Iphone
was just yesterday, and even that is not
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