Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-16 22:29, Žilvinas Ledas het geskryf: And another observation - wouldn't it be better to have simpler shortcut for Rename identifier? e. g. MonoDevelop uses F2 (as Windows uses it to rename a file). Brilliant idea! I use shortcuts extensively, but for some reason could never

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread zeljko
On Thursday 17 of March 2011 08:02:16 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-16 22:29, Žilvinas Ledas het geskryf: And another observation - wouldn't it be better to have simpler shortcut for Rename identifier? e. g. MonoDevelop uses F2 (as Windows uses it to rename a file). Brilliant idea!

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 17:07, zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote: On Thursday 17 of March 2011 08:02:16 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-16 22:29, Žilvinas Ledas het geskryf: And another observation - wouldn't it be better to have simpler shortcut for Rename identifier? e. g. MonoDevelop

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Alexander Klenin wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 17:07, zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote: On Thursday 17 of March 2011 08:02:16 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-16 22:29, Žilvinas Ledas het geskryf: And another observation - wouldn't it be better to have simpler

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.03.2011 10:14, schrieb Alexander Klenin: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 17:07, zeljkozel...@holobit.net wrote: On Thursday 17 of March 2011 08:02:16 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Op 2011-03-16 22:29, Žilvinas Ledas het geskryf: And another observation - wouldn't it be better to have simpler

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-17 11:49, michael.vancanneyt@be het geskryf: So F2 is not really a good choice. Well, in the default Lazarus key mapping, F2 is undefined, so there is no problem in using it. Then again, is any key mapping a problem - after all you can customize your key mappings to suite

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-17 12:14, Sven Barth het geskryf: I'd vote for Ctrl+Shift+E: 1) Delphi compatibility (it is importatnt for me at least, at times I have to switch IDE's every 15 minutes) There are already differences in the key mappings. As far as I know the Lazarus project only wants LCL to be

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.03.2011 11:23, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Op 2011-03-17 12:14, Sven Barth het geskryf: I'd vote for Ctrl+Shift+E: 1) Delphi compatibility (it is importatnt for me at least, at times I have to switch IDE's every 15 minutes) There are already differences in the key mappings. As far as I

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.03.2011 11:19, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Op 2011-03-17 11:49, michael.vancanneyt@be het geskryf: So F2 is not really a good choice. Well, in the default Lazarus key mapping, F2 is undefined, so there is no problem in using it. Then again, is any key mapping a problem - after all

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Op 2011-03-17 12:26, Sven Barth het geskryf: And I hope the secord part keeps to be valid ;) Me too. Imagine we need to start installing Mono just to run the Lazarus IDE. :-/ Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:23:00 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote: Op 2011-03-17 12:14, Sven Barth het geskryf: I'd vote for Ctrl+Shift+E: 1) Delphi compatibility (it is importatnt for me at least, at times I have to switch IDE's every 15 minutes) There are already

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
I like the [F2] idea as I still don't use this function... ...But a Delphi's Like keymapping for don't like sounds like a good idea too... William de Oliveira Ferreira Bacharel em Sistemas de Informação 2011/3/17 michael.vancann...@wisa.be On Thu, 17 Mar

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Juha Manninen
michael.vancann...@wisa.be kirjoitti torstai 17 maaliskuu 2011 11:49:51: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Alexander Klenin wrote: I'd vote for Ctrl+Shift+E: 1) Delphi compatibility (it is importatnt for me at least, at times I have to switch IDE's every 15 minutes) 2) IMO F2 is too prominent for this

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:11:38 +0200 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Renaming an identifier is a prominent feature, it deserves a prominent shortcut. +1 [...] I feel that more default shortcuts should be defined. They don't hurt anybody. And indeed, you can always

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Juha Manninen
Mattias Gaertner kirjoitti torstai 17 maaliskuu 2011 13:33:01: I feel that more default shortcuts should be defined. They don't hurt anybody. And indeed, you can always change the key mapping. Note: If you add a short cut and the user had already assigned the short cut to another

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:11, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com wrote: In the default theme F2 was not used for anything. IMO the most logical use is to rename a variable. In file managers it is already a standard, on many platforms. This makes it very intuitive. You are in source editor

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-17 Thread Žilvinas Ledas
Hello, On 2011-03-17 11:14, Alexander Klenin wrote: I'd vote for Ctrl+Shift+E: 1) Delphi compatibility (it is importatnt for me at least, at times I have to switch IDE's every 15 minutes) 2) IMO F2 is too prominent for this Don't forget we can have more than one shortcut for one command ;)

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Juha Manninen
Martin kirjoitti lauantai 12 maaliskuu 2011 03:06:48: I'd still say indent should go back, but not a big issue. I moved items in main menu some more. I also added Source sub-menu to the editor's popup menu and reorganized the items as in main menu. IMO It is quite good now. Delphi 2009 has

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Juha Manninen
And BTW, shortcuts combined of two sequencial keys like Ctrl+K, L show now properly in menu caption. At least Edit and Source menus have some. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Martin
On 16/03/2011 10:56, Juha Manninen wrote: Martin kirjoitti lauantai 12 maaliskuu 2011 03:06:48: I'd still say indent should go back, but not a big issue. I moved items in main menu some more. I also added Source sub-menu to the editor's popup menu and reorganized the items as in main menu. IMO

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Jesus Reyes
--- El mié 16-mar-11, Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com escribió: De: Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source A: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org Fecha: miércoles, 16 de marzo de 2011, 4:56 Martin kirjoitti lauantai

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Žilvinas Ledas
Hello all, On 2011-03-16 21:02, Jesus Reyes wrote: --- El mié 16-mar-11, Juha Manninenjuha.mannine...@gmail.com escribió: De: Juha Manninenjuha.mannine...@gmail.com I'd still say indent should go back, but not a big issue. I moved items in main menu some more. I also added Source

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Juha Manninen
Žilvinas Ledas kirjoitti keskiviikko 16 maaliskuu 2011 22:29:14: Hello all, On 2011-03-16 21:02, Jesus Reyes wrote: [..] Having source and refactor menus is IMO too much, why not insert Refactor menu as a submenu of Source menu. I second that. The idea is to have more refactor items in

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread Žilvinas Ledas
On 2011-03-16 23:26, Juha Manninen wrote: The idea is to have more refactor items in the future. Then it makes more sense to have a menu for it. The length of main menu can be a problem with translated caption texts because there are so many items now. At least Environment menu will be merged

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-16 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
On Turbo Delphi (Borland Developer Studio 2006 Free) only works if you select a file on project manager, renaming it. William de Oliveira Ferreira Bacharel em Sistemas de Informação Good idea. Delphi uses Ctrl-Shift-E. Does it use F2 for anything? Lazarus

[Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-11 Thread Martin
I mentioned some of this before, but I did so along with many other points, and the other points where more like ideas and not so important. At the moment, a few of the menu items (of those that did get moved) are definitely misplaced. A source menu suggests that items in there are either

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-11 Thread Juha Manninen
Martin kirjoitti perjantai 11 maaliskuu 2011 23:24:31: [...] Items that definitely do not belong there: - insert from char map Yes, first I thought that all the Insert ... items should be in one place but actually they could be split. I will look at it. - upper/lower selection - tabs to

Re: [Lazarus] the new menu source

2011-03-11 Thread Martin
On 12/03/2011 00:21, Juha Manninen wrote: Martin kirjoitti perjantai 11 maaliskuu 2011 23:24:31: [...] Items that definitely do not belong there: - insert from char map Yes, first I thought that all the Insert ... items should be in one place but actually they could be split. I will look at